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CEO Raise while staff cut

What a real win for Jane. Citibank cuts staff for raises to the top executives. No one knows including the entire department. You just vanish after 10 years and they say nothing. While Jane received a $41 million dollar pay day.

I certainly let go of all my 200+ shares in the company. This is not progress or innovation this is pure theft. I see top executives are selling very quickly. To the management shame on you!

You couldn’t even give a hint of notice saying anything. Not even a 60 day notice prior to letting us go. A tap on the shoulder and say hey you’re going to be laid off after a decade of work. When the stock falls to nothing no one will be shocked.


Management isn't telling their teams anything

Got RIF'd, 60 day garden leave, standard 2 weeks for every year, blah blah blah. I have (former lol) coworkers calling me asking me where I am, asking if I can help with X or Y when I'm "back from vacation." Seems like management isn't telling their teams anything about the sudden voids in the roster.


When is the checked out Mgmt going to get the axe?

There might be pockets of difference, but for the Dir level and up in sales, the zombie apocalypse is in full form. Pete is a super smart and nice guy, but underneath him, and I don’t think he knows, there are so many checked out Mgrs. I am talking all time high #s of Mgrs that are checked out.


What are the 2nd, 3rd, 4th skip level managers doing all day?

Are they only on meeting surveillance and maybe PowerPoint deck duty? I've never seen them do anything more than be surveillance on Teams meetings, and fly into other offices to be surveillance in person. Why do we need so many levels of surveillance? Can someone observe their teams and find out if they are doing something more than just sitting there?


Russia charge

Can we hope to finally see those MDs who made the poor decisions to expose the company to the risk around Russia (a country on the US-sanction list since 2014 and its illegal invasion so hardly a case of "how could we have known?") finally held accountable for their poor decision-making?
There are Ds and MDs in my area who recruited 100s in Russia and completely messed up our org in the process. Despite showing shockingly poor judgement and poor management skills they are still at Citi.


Humana Digital

How did people get exec roles in Humana Digital yet have no leadership, experience, accountability or vision/plan to deliver Humana Digital products or create a solid organization to deliver / support? They must have been great talkers during interviews - but the Board and C-Suite need to bring in leaders for Digital! Who is in place there now are awful - what were you thinking??


Run from Humana

Humana has no leadership - they do have lots and lots of layers of useful management, just no leadership! They have no vision or plan at all - hence, can't put together a strategy. It cracks me up that they keep hiring upper management but continue to let go of the people who actually do work.

I could never recommend anyone take a job at Humana, nor would I recommend anyone be a customer. They have very few execs / managers that can deliver! Those that cared about the company and its customers are being let go. They are told they complain but in reality they are bringing up real problems and issues that if not addressed will have huge negative impact. The execs / managers don't complain because someone will then say "what are you going to do about that" and they will have no response since they let go of anyone with ideas or that cared!


My manager informed me to be prepared for tomorrow

After several hours of trying to figure out my situation, and finding this site, I decided to post here.

My manager informed me that I would be meeting with his manager on Wednesday to be informed that I will be let go due to the shift to India. He said there was several staff in this small team that would be let go. I'm still reeling from this. I know the writing has been on the wall since Mike's announcement, but it hit super hard today.

I don't have a meeting scheduled with this person for tomorrow, and don't have a good relationship with this director. He is an a-s. However, all my reviews are very positive. How can this happen ?

I guess my manager has trust in me and it is not in his control, but WTF, my reviews are excellent, and the India team has no clue what I do as there is no principal engineers.


How can managers track if and when we are in the office?

I just got assigned a new manager. He is based in a different location to me, as are almost all of the team. He only comes to my office once a month.

Me and one colleague are the only ones out of the 16 team members based in our location, and we both prefer to work from home, and perform much better. This new manager being in a different location seems like a great opportunity... Can I just lie about being in the office? Can he track key card swipes, or WiFi logins to see how many days per week I go in?

I know this info is logged, but does direct managers have access to that information? I'm wondering if maybe some gdpr data protection would prohibit them from being able to casually keep track of office attendance?

Are my dreams doomed?


All the issues we are dealing with just don't matter....

Lets be real here. Customers use bank services. These services seem simple to the customers. And in fact, are a tiny part of what goes on behind the scenes. I say this to remind everyone (if needed) that all the BS, discrimination, unfair dealings, crooked management, outsourcing, d-mb RTO rules, etc. - don't matter. They don't matter if the customer is unaffected. Its all under the rug so to speak. Until things get so bad that bank services are impacted, John Q. Public is oblivious and it all doesn't matter. Except to us. And it is continually ground into our psyche as the bus runs us over again and again. Stay at WF long enough, and one could easily be damaged goods emotionally. It really is that bad.
Thanks chainsaw, you've really done a number on WF. You have made a "difference". Now can you move on, please?


The two way street

All you hear is “there’s a storm a comin”, whatever. What most managers don’t realize or don’t care to realize is that for now things are slanted one way…..for now.
There is a storm coming, yeah, I get it, layoffs.

After the dust settles, there’s another story to tell coming from the employees. Things will be slanted the other way.


When it all changed

The consolidation of the offices to the hubs. ECS and future state. The loss of jurisdictional expertise from the regional offices to the hub and an SCP manual. You lost touch with what made you number 1- no customer cares about your metrics, they want confident knowledgeable guidance and you’re not giving that anymore, especially when management doesn’t even know the job and just focused on your idle time and how many cause of loss you closed. When you stop putting the customer first and worry about the things they never see or know, you lose touch with the actual mission. You cannot separate yourself by being like everyone else


Belk struggling to find quality store managers

Belk has resorted to hiring managers with no real skills or management power, it seems like they regurgitate what is said in emails or conference calls yet make no effort to follow up on any issues in the store. Many employees have complained that their store managers are lacking skills, knowledge, and motivation to successfully run their store, some sales team managers, merch team managers, leads, and key holders have voiced concern that they are the ones running the stores, yet the store manager is taking credit and being compensated for their hard work. The question is who is hiring these ineffective store managers ? and why? It’s of great concern when the leads, associates, and floor managers care more and know more about their store than the actual store manager.


JE decision

If there’s a manager, or HR… or whoever that knows this please, who is making the decision of who is eliminated from their team? Does this come randomly by HR or does manager have a say on who leaves?


If your manager says these words you have a keeper

From my experience Chevron has NO keepers by the definition shared at the link below.

If you disagree please speak up and advise me on where to find a "keeper " among the cesspool of self serving supervision/ managers we are blessed with.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jwmba_when-your-manager-says-this-youve-got-a-share-7428287024773636096-rO6r?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAAAn-ZlAB68ih04bqOWRtU6SN072zGx8h3RY


Dell needs better training

This is more for my CSG folks but holy fu-k I audit csg chats and calls from time to time and global agents/managers need way better training! From the lack of being able to follow simple articles and policies, to telling clients promises that cant be done, and managers just ignoring any escalations, Dell support is just fu--ing terrible! Literally just saw an agent trying to help client fix her canon printer on a live audit. Stupid!


Engineers should unionize

With AI coming, should engineers unionize? I believe upper management is going to continue to squeeze engineers and with knowledge worker tasks being transferred to AI agents... it makes the work of an engineer procedural rather than design. That's very much like factory work.

I don't see any other way to spread the wealth. The alternative feels like "to get squeezed".


Focus on what you can control

It's pretty much certain that RIFs will happen this week. As someone impacted by a recent RIF, here is what I can share. What's done is done already. Regardless of what you colleagues or business partners think of you, your manager has already decided that you are gone. Brush off that resume. Research competitors who may value your skills. Apply to positions where your skills fit and/or where you want to go in your career. If you get an interview, even for a position you don't really want, don't turn it down. Some of the best advice I got was from an old manager who had recently separated from the military who told me how he had been applying to positions he knew he couldn't accept because he still had a year left but he wanted the interview experience and hadn't interviewed anywhere in almost 20 years. When the time came, he was a pro and landed a job in his first interview after his military retirement. Optum isn't the military and you can leave whenever you want. If that amazing offer comes before severance, don't hesitate to take it. Best case, you line up both at the same time and walk away with a nice bonus that you earned for all the stress and BS this place has put you through. Good luck to everyone. It will all be okay.


Exit Interviews

Curious to know if anyone ever got an "exit interview" with Intel HR before they left, either voluntary or involuntary?

In both cases, I never had an "exit interview" but I know others did get an exit interview. Is it a particular case an exit interview happens? Or Managers try to CYA when an employee leaves?


CAP Plan

I’m going to say what a lot of people are thinking but no one is saying out loud.

Why is “CAP” suddenly being mentioned in almost every group meeting lately?

We’re repeatedly told “it’s not a bad thing,” but historically, CAP has been used as documentation that leads to performance write-ups and eventually layoffs. So let’s be honest—what exactly changed, and why the sudden focus now?

It’s hard not to notice the pattern. The targets keep moving, expectations keep increasing, and the goals feel more and more disconnected from the reality of the actual workload. The people setting these expectations aren’t the ones doing the job every day, under the same pressure, with the same volume, and the same constraints.

At some point, calling it “support” while simultaneously increasing pressure starts to feel less like development and more like positioning.

People deserve honesty, not reassurance that doesn’t align with what they’re experiencing in real time.

So I’ll ask directly:
Is this truly about helping employees improve, or is this the early stage of workforce reduction being framed differently?

Transparency matters. People can handle the truth. What’s hard to handle is feeling managed out while being told everything is fine.