#badleadership

You know a company is awful when the employees get excited for layoffs. But you have to ask yourself, why do these employees feel like a layoff will save them? Payouts are chump change. A 3 year employee gets 6 weeks pay. Is this changing your life? Please don't hate the messenger... I suggest that if you are unhappy, then take matters into your own hands and apply elsewhere on your days off. VZW forces you to walk the line of happiness and integrity, all while making you jump through hoops. Use this job as a stepping stone. They don't pay you enough for this emotional abuse. The dirty little secret is that you won't find financial independence and be able to build the life you want working here. I can guarantee that this job has no future and zero career path. The sooner you accept this the happier you will be. Managers & Asst managers sit in back rooms secretly talking about their disdain for their entitled employees or arrogant district managers, all while hating life and wishing they hadn't invested so much time and life energy being stuck where they are. District managers find ways to either cheat the system or don't even know the systems and live the "do as I say and not as I do" fake lifestyle. This is not a solution to life's happiness. The leaders that do make good money blow smoke up your butt so dont be fooled by their happiness because its coming from the green you will never see. All jobs teach you something, and this job teaches you that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. You just have to listen to your inner voice that has been telling you that you should move on. Don't be afraid. You deserve better... or if you stay, you probably haven't learned your lesson just yet. You will learn this lesson at some point. You are in an abusive relationship, and you deserve better. Be brave and don't wait for your "partner" to break up with you. Verizon hasn't and won't change. You are settling. You are being used. This job is set up to use you short term and then replace you. That is all fine and good in its own right but you have to play the game. You won't find any life long employees. Don't allow the fake kindness and occasional smile limit what you deserve. Take what you can from Verizon in the form of educational assistance or the limited financial gain it presents till you can make that next move to something that offers long-term happiness and can lead you to a better life. It's out here. I promise. ❤️ To all the haters of this message - I lived each step of this message and I won. I have receipts.

Do you have the impression that your current managers in this company are psycopath ?

I hate what's being done to it. I used to be proud working here. Not anymore.

I was a Team Lead over the years. My biggest difficulty was non-support from my manager, directors, and VPs. We were stuck using tools that didn't work, and there was no funding to fix them or get better ones. Processes were stupidly designed, and nobody wanted to improve them. Great ideas are all shot down. Even cheap ideas are shot down. But we can cut thousands of jobs, fund a Mclaren race team, get g2 a $200k watch, etc.

Bumped from @mr+1kt16ne3e.

Senior management have absolutely no idea how to run a tech company.
They repeatedly try the only playbook they have, which is to cut costs by laying people off whilst paying consultants millions to do their jobs, which seems to be simply latching on to the latest hot topic and hoping that fixes everything.
Here's an idea, why not try actually investing in the businesses you own rather than trying to bleed them dry.
Anyone else notice the number of good senior people jumping ship recently?
How's future forward working for you Stephanie?

Personally, Cameron bringing in McKinsey will be his legacy and what he will be remembered for.

Someone got into his ear and he took some bad decisions.

Things feel different. Way more now since the WP closure.

Something feels very odd with WP folks. The upper management level seems fake and really trying to cover up something.

It’s just bad times right now.

Maybe someone with ba--s that reads this site can walk into Cameron’s office and bring him to reality of how things are. Well, I can at least pray!

I left eight months ago. The top brass don't know what they're doing. If you're not near retirement, staying at T doesn't make any sense.

Does anyone know how much John Stankey’s new Range Rover costs? While people are getting cut you can be sure this guy won’t be on the layoff list and will indulge himself in the best luxuries available in Highland Park.

It was to go RTO full time.
You cannot go half a decade and blow it up like that.
It’s a cauldron of bad mojo and stupidity sprinkled with greed.
Bad corporate decision made my dei and fools.

How come at the end of 2025 we all got a thank you note saying that we did better than ever and how much they appreciate us, then few month go by and they just sp-t on us? They're reaaaally trying to lose all valued and experienced employees. Is common sense in the room with us?

Go fu-k yourself.

I've worked some bad jobs before but nothing even comes close to what this place has done to me. The leadership is awful, the managers are worse, and I genuinely don't recognize myself anymore after dealing with it all. It's taken such a toll on my head and my confidence that I'm not sure how much longer I can keep showing up like nothing's wrong.

Why is it always the older, experienced, and high performing employees are shown the door? We have plenty of those who do nothing all day and yet they stay. Why? How come that keeps happening?

Enough with the nonesense from certain people.
No one wants to hear it anymore, no one wants to participate in it, no one likes you, no one likes your constant negativity, no one likes your entitelment, no one likes your doom and gloom, we are tired of your nonsense.

So Just Stop. Your continued efforts to stoke bitterness, lower morale and cause drama are no longer acceptable.

Company and management expects excellence but the company can't even pay you correctly or resolve a pay issue within a 6 month time span. And then they tell you you're the problem for trying to solve your own problem since no one will actually help you resolve issues.

The most difficult part about working for this company is dealing with the company itself.

I don’t know when work turned into everyone trying to prove they’re the last one who should be cut, but that’s what it feels like now. People chase approval, grab credit, and act friendly until there’s a chance to make someone else look bad. It’s draining.

The worst part is that this isn't accidental. When leadership rewards this kind of behavior, people learn fast. I'm relatively new in my career but if this is how it's always going to be, well fu-k.

Massive insiders selling stock and nothing given to the employees ever. Leaving bag holders. Get far away from dell

Since Andrew left, and he only led for approximately 4.5 years or so, the treatment of employees has gone down to the gutter. The only period in which employees were treated fairly was during his tenure. Look up the history of UHG leadership and you will see what I’m saying. I was recently laid off after working here for 15 years. They not only offered me 5 weeks of pay, they put very “questionable language” in my layoff package.
Accepting their layoff package is accepting more abuse on the way out.
• If they get sued you should be on their side.
• If you were mistreated and (I’m watering this part down) or if you saw someone being mistreated, by accepting their severance you are saying it never happened.
• If you catch wind of them potentially being sued, you should warn them
• Also they added that you should not expect any payment for any of this! hahahahaha!!!!!!
• And if they call you for help with work after you’ve left, you have 48 hours to get back to them and help. This is teetering on… “fill in the blanks”…. and not even enforceable!
Who do their lawyers think they are? Very thuggish! I asked others that were laid off with me and they had similar language. And one that worked for 3 years only got 2 weeks worth of a paycheck.
This is all provable and true! To those of you still there, this is how they treat you after years of service, that’s if they don’t put you on a CAP or PIP to manage you out like someone said in a post on the UHG link here. They did this recently to my friend who worked in UHC for 25 years!

Am vomitting

I am so tired of getting blamed for projects that went wrong because management approved bad plans.

The calls to stop spending money and the pain continues..... our customers and our network continues to suffer, let's not get into how much the employees are suffering. What is Stinky doing to AT&T...?? We are told to save a dime, but then he spends millions on stupid cr-p.

Why is he still around?
Why hasn't the board asked for his resignation...?
Are the stock holders and board members as blind and as stupid as he is..??

We are definitely in a spiral downhill... sad to see how much the company and upper management continue to fail us all.

Our VP ..HT.. announced he is leaving. I was told he's an ahole but even he couldn't put up with the bigger ahole that's now his Boss. Yes Sh--Charity managed to scare away even Thakkar. Rumour has it they had a falling out. Pure SH-TSHOW!

Looks like that SF lost her mind. There was a couple of urgent L2 level leadership meetings and additional cuts and savings asked. Is it the aim of SF to destroy the company? When she will finally understand that leading the company is way more then financial numbers? Is she finally loosing her support to lead this Titanic?

Can someone imaging she survive as a CEO any longer? I never seen something like this. Only Kelly Beaty could be worse choice.

Our manager just sits there nodding while other teams blame us for everything. No pushback, no defense of our work, just silence while we take the hit. I mean, he looks bad in the whole thing as well, he should at least care about that. But nope, just lets it happen.

Steve's comments were fine but Christa Ferrell publicly revealed herself in her own words as spiteful and the Adil Mirza acknowledged that he just takes other people's work and put his name on it. Is Sophia really that tone deaf that she thought that would be motivating or was she just too lazy to review the final video? Happy EAW folks, keep doing a great job for our spiteful, plagiaristic and lazy leaders.

What happened to the people who actually knew how to lead a bank?

It stupid to have security under FTS/FAST to begin with. I don’t get it!…MD and that CIO guy were two of the worst hires in the history of the company. Idk think they know what they were doing.
He only did a year then left!…he wanted everything to be engineers. Nonsense

The disaster starts with our OD. He is out of touch. He is only a numbers manager and unable to lead. Does not have competency to lead. Blames everyone else for his failures. He is the common denominator. Unable to take responsibility and accountability. His answer is always to fire someone else or ask someone to be fired. We need a new OD.

Left late last year after 20 yrs w/ the company. When I started vz was the best company to work for. Took care of employees, customers and advancement opportunities were endless.

Ever since the Vodafone buyout happened in 2012/2013 it’s been a sinking ship. Less and less executives who worked up through the company, bad ideas (go 90, hum, etc), resources and support gone, outsourced CS, ripping off the customer, micromanaging thru the roof and layoffs every year.

It’s a shame but that’s corporate America these days.

OP is @15j+1kqqf7e4m.

I've long stopped expecting anything from the people above us. They don't have a plan, they don't have a vision, and they don't have any idea how to fix the problems they've created. It's been years of the same chaos.

They're just glorified managers, and they're not even good at that. Citi is spiraling downward because there's a complete lack of real leadership.

Not a damn thing. No innovation. Horrible take on human capital. Stay away from these mushroom clouds

If you put on your blinder and look down and support the company like they’re your own flesh and blood, you’ll do well. But at what cost?

Lots of major names have left the company, and people continue to leave. Probably a combination of the upper management culture (nepotism much…), LT mindset around optimizing and running as lean as possible, and the profit sharing changes which apparently we claimed “entitlement” to and did not work for. And really bad base pay relative to general industry. What do you think?

Significant change in culture and employee satisfaction. A few extremely poor leaders out in leadership and department head positions and everyone is job scares, anxious and unhappy. CEO change and the domino effect afterwards was a big part of it. Sad, but at some point the cancer will be identified and removed

I have seen several capable coworkers leave over the past year and it rarely had anything to do with the work itself. Most of the frustration came from how people were spoken to or ignored by management. After a while employees stop feeling valued and start looking elsewhere. It is becoming a pattern that more people are noticing. Exxon is losing good workers it should be trying to keep.

How can you mess up a company so badly and never answer for any of it? Are we in a TV show and they have plot armor? What is it that's keeping them untouchable despite so many failures?

Besides broken systems, unqualified leadership and performative culture?

Denise, I hope you're listening and reading the feedback from sites like TheLayoff. It should come as no surprise that BD employees are fed up with the non-sense and your incoherent babbling in the townhalls acting like you understand anything that's going on in the company. Shame on you for perpetuating the dysfunction of the greater IT organization and trying to spin it as "BD excellence". Your recognition means nothing. Please do us all a favor and leave ASAP.

Sincerely,
BD employees and customers.