#managedout

Multi was to let most go, They don't have to do a big layoff it's designed to make you fail. Most in the dept are on a plan. Shame Shame on Wayfair.

meta aint in no zombie era…its in panic mode. The times says meta is turning into Aol or yahoo, some old big internet comapny that used to be on top and now nobody cares. i beleive they kinda right, but they missing the real thing. meta dont know what it is no more. first zuck changed the whole name for metaverse and burned like $80b on reality labs. they told everybody vr meetings and cartoon avatars was the future, but nobody wanted it. horizon worlds had tiny numbers, avatars had no legs, and the whole thing looked d-mb. then ai got hot and meta definately jumped on that too, like they just chase whatever is shiny.

now they getting sued by publishers and an author for allegedly using pirated books to train ai. lawsuit says they knew the data was pirated and used it anyway. it also says zuck ki-led licensing talks cause if they pay to recieve even one book then it hurts their fair use story. so this aint seperate problems. its all one mess, wich is a buisness with no plan, just shortcuts and money burning. then u got reports of meta watching employee keystrokes and mouse movement to train ai agents that might replace them later. maybe that occured cause leadership is scared. no suprise regular workers get layoffs, stack ranking, rto pressure, bad morale, and fear while the top keeps funding zucks next fantasy.

I'm putting this out there for my former coworkers who might be in denial like I was. You might be getting managed out if your work is suddenly being micromanaged. If you're getting impossible deadlines. If you're being left out of meetings you used to attend. If your responsibilities are shrinking. If your wins are being ignored. If your requests for time off or training are being denied. If you're getting in trouble for things others do daily. I saw all of these before I was let go, I just didn't want to believe it.

One of my teammates is on one right now, and he knows he’s as good as gone, with nothing to show for it. At least with a layoff, you get severance.

Once you're on it, you already know how it ends. I really hope no one is fooling themselves into thinking they can fight it.

I've had multiple coaching memos doesn't take a genius that they want me gone lol.
How long do I have until a formal PIP?

Doing CAPs to manage people out and avoid paying severance has been happening a lot for at least a couple of years.

We are hearing about it more because it works and they are doing it more. The company saves money by pushing out long-term, expensive employees, especially those seen as too vocal, ethical, or outside the in-crowd.

Expect more of this. Most people do not have the money, time, or stability to fight it legally, and many assume it cannot happen to them until it does.

So mismanagement loses the Marriott account and immediately out come the travel cuts! I don't think we will T&E our way out of this poorly run company! Does stopping manager travel and meetings, training events, back filling roles send the right message? How about stripping Senior Leaders bonuses? Those bloated million dollars payouts for poor performance? And if you say we will lose them so be it there has not been a strategic decision made in over 5 years! Funny how we blow smoke up everyone's butts on Town Halls but behind the scenes we do this cr-p!

It is about time for regime change.
18 months and all he does is fire people?
And not one positive thing came out in 18 months that he has been here
preaching positivity.

Do anybody else have a manager who pawn you off to your colleagues? As a new hire this manager responds with go ask so and so. I’m not trying to bother others who have are busy. His employees say he doesn’t have answers. That’s why he directs them to them.

Some roles seem to get harder by design until the person eventually gives up. I've been noticing this more and more, and recently on my own skin as well. Is this the new money-saving strategy?

I hope all the management that laid people off all these years finally get laidoff
Specially my old worthless boss that just took up space.

Don't expect a turnaround. There's no real intent to bring back the old glory, not even to improve from where we are now. They'll cut until there's nothing left. We've been stagnating, and I've yet to see even a hint of vision behind any of the recent layoffs or restructuring.

None of them understood the team's actual strengths and weaknesses. All of them resisted using people in the roles that made sense. And every single one was a passive-aggressive micromanager, always interrupting, never actually contributing. At this point I'm convinced it's not them. It's the whole damn place.

Whatever happens now, I'm at peace with it. I just don't care. My manager has been pushing me out for a year. Excluding me, giving my opportunities to others, taking credit for my ideas. I used to get upset, but now I'm just done. I've given too much to EJ to keep fighting.

Had a solid four years going until leadership changed and suddenly I was out. Before tech I was a director at a global company. Now at mid 40s with twenty years experience and an MBA, I can't get anyone to call back. Two months and not even a single interview. I know that doesn't sound long but it stings differently when you've worked this hard your whole life only to be dismissed.

Cloud Service team should be fired. What a terrible account system they designed or managed…. Why is so complicated… And people in the team are rude, lazy and ignorant

That is exactly what it feels like when dealing with the managers. Most of them tend to be petty, obnoxious and bullies. As if their testosterone levels have peaked towards a downward spiral.

I’ve seen people get slowly starved of chances until they leave on their own with no raises, no projects, and no recognition. It starts to feel like getting pushed out without the paperwork. Makes me wonder if this quiet push out is happening more often than real layoffs these days.

This micromanager is harassing our team by asking passive aggressive questions regarding which day in the week are we going to be in the office. Funny thing is the he won’t even talk to us in the office much and stays on his useless calls.

Every member of our team has different day preferences and one can’t predict set schedule.

Company policy says that we can pick any day of our choice.

I am on wits end.. as if everything else going on is not enough .: we have this person sniffing on our necks

Where can I report this ?

With a pip. What a horrible company

Currently in the process of getting managed out. I was told that there are 150 people that have all been put on performance plans. Meet a certain % of plan by end of Q or be put on an official. I would take any package if offered. Every day is like an episode of a reality show. Some made up loss that needs to be made up for. High stress, no money.

Been here less than a year and now I have almost nothing to do. Boss doesnt care when I ask for more work. Is this how they phase people out before letting them go?

Being laid off on the spot with an email or in a meeting with management and HR is bad enough already.

But was anyone here "managed out" which either led to you resigning or a termination of your contract? I believe the official term for this is constructive dismissal/discharge.

People make sure you document everything during conversations with managers. It’s obvious they are making it uncomfortable for all of us and they do not want to pay out severance. Annual reviews are taking place shortly and they need to dish out a % of NIs. This is how they start putting the wheels in motion for terminating for cause. Document everything!!! Ask your manager to put items in writing!!! Protect yourself. 2026 is going to be a very challenging year for all of us. They simply want a toxic work environment so we leave and they keep the money.

My manager is managing me out it is quite obvious. Is it part of the Schwab management playbook to make up bullsh-t compliance cases to terminate you for cause so Schwab does not have pay severance?

After all the restructures and behind-the-scenes changes over the past few years, it really looks like the capable managers have been filtered out. The ones who knew the business, earned trust, and actually cared about their teams are no longer around. What remains feels intentional, like leadership prefers compliance over competence, even if that means morale and common sense take a hit.

I Nominate our CIO for the ‘best cio silicon valley’ award for 2025. He is the reason the company is doing so good. His vision, strategy and hard work is more than all the company execs put together. He truly deserves a huge hug and a bucketful of stock options. That inspite of having such a mediocre team. Hats off Sudhakar.

PEP just chugging along with their failing "business as usual" strategy of ja--ing up prices, shrinking the bags, making the same old garbage and producing a negative YTD return while the market is positive 16% and hoping no one will notice. Well, people did notice.

I'm on my 4th manager in about 12 months. Two of them were laid off just in 2025. I'm taking odds to see if I'll be let go or my manager before the year is done. No matter how hard I work they pile up the work and expect more. It is a system designed to fail as we can't meet the customer demands.

What is up with the external hires with 0 experience? It's ridiculous that workers have to hand hold the management!!!!

As a current long term employee I will say there is not one dull moment in this business these days. The daily misfires and malfunctions from the top down are absolutely astounding to experience. The decisions having to be made by unguided middle management and those in field from worthless executives are unbelievable when all that’s ever provided for them are shells of an operating process at the last minute at 100 MPH operating speed. Then expectation to get in front of and inform their team or customer and “fill in the blanks” like dancing clowns while the execs supposedly hash out the details behind the scenes. This leads to ground level situations from sales, service, and support staff that would be absolutely comical if they weren’t so sad and degrading for everyone involved. I’m by no means disgruntled or have an axe to grind with Xerox-I choose to be here every day and generally enjoy my role-just miss the “good old days” and when the “customer experience” actually mattered and wasn’t just an bullet point or afterthought and we truly had a vision for focus on real innovation. At one point this place was unstoppable and still has the talented people to be so if they had clear direction. The majority of the folks here remember too and much of the “hate” for Xerox on this site is coming from a place of love and respect that has somehow been syphoned from this group in one way or another over time by those that should have cared the most.

WHAT CAN I DO?

Do I have gripes about Dell? Absolutely. No company is perfect and no company will ever fulfill ALL of your wants and needs.

I've been here for almost 7 years now and in all honesty, can't say I have any major complaints. My manager is fkn AWESOME. I have more flexibility in my job than I've had anywhere else. I have 5 weeks of PTO, good benefits, and love the $500/year fitness program bc I just buy random cr-p, then get reimbursed and return it all lol.

My orgs exec. leadership is pretty awesome and are as transparent as legal will allow them to be. We aren't required to be in office 5 days/week but rather 30% of each quarter.

I enjoy working with EVERY person on my team along with almost everyone I indirectly work with.

I've gotten about 25 THOUSAND dollars worth of training out of Dell. idk, I guess I'm not seeing why there is so much hate towards dell? Most of it seems to come from the sales org, which I mean... I feel like that's about standard at any large company.

My complaints is that Dell is still acting as if they are in "covid time."

• Restricted travel and/or going to conferences - unless you have a VP as a title, for the most part!
• Promotions have been MIA since 2020, at least for those in the US..
• My raises have never been below 7% for the last 6 years, my last one was only 4%
• My org NEVER seems to have any budget and my org happens to be one that, while not on the frontline/customer facing, kind of protects the money and information from hackers.. Not my problem though. idgaf as long as I'm getting paid.
• Dell has ALWAYS been a hybrid company... 3 days in/2 at home. Why the sudden change in policy for 5 days in office after you forced us to go remote for 6 years, forcing us to change our lives around, then telling us that they don't forsee in office work in the future? Only to do a 180 6 months later...
• Dell has no identity. They follow and do what the BIG companies do - MS, Google, FB, Tesla, etc... rather than do what they think is best for their own employees. Hence the 5 days in office policy.
• They think AI is going to be their savior but, Dell's AI is literally HORRIBLE. 99% of Dell couldn't give two logs about AI and they keep shoving it down our throat. Which speaking of, Dell is SO far behind in the AI world it's hilarious.
• I don't think dell gives a single cr-p about the employees (IC's anyways) and it's obvious the Tell Dell results don't matter to them.
• They pay to have their company listed as a "Top company to work for."

For me, those are my gripes but in all honesty only a few of them affect me as an employee. The rest, idgaf.

Why centene managers are doing more micromanagement and have very high expectations. Is there too much pressure coming from top management. I have never worked with any company with this kind of work pressure

One person says one thing, another says the opposite, and somehow the work still has to get done. I thought that the guy who told me when I first joined that 1% of the people do 99% of the work was joking. It took me a year, but I finally realize he was very serious and was warning me.

People leave managers due to their behavior politics and secret meetings with trusted people

I want to thank all the managers who made it so miserable that I found employment elsewhere. My group manager told me that I would eventually be laid off, said “if there is anything I can do for you, let me know.” I asked for a letter or recommendation, which he said he couldn’t because of company policy. Since I have left, not only have I been 10x happier with my new job, a majority of those managers who thought “I’m too important for them to let me go” were let go. I’m now full remote. There is hope outside the stagecoach.

Any managers here who can answer how management views PIP?
For the employee, PIP is a trap, you are asked to do more, more, and more, once you are out of PIP, they will ask to increase velocity to the death, once you are exhausted you are done anyway.
But how does management stay sane through the BS pretending?