None of them understood the team's actual strengths and weaknesses. All of them resisted using people in the roles that made sense. And every single one was a passive-aggressive micromanager, always interrupting, never actually contributing. At this point I'm convinced it's not them. It's the whole damn place.
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It is part of The Schardss Protocol.
@jp, yup just like WF managers -- short sighted.
@jg has a fundamental misunderstanding of NATO. NATO is not an attack pact, it's a defensive pact, and no NATO member has been attacked. It's not their job to clean up their members' messes.
Managers at Wells Fargo are like Nato. They wait on the sidelines until the job is done. Then they swoop in claiming credit.
The “managers” now are really just facilitators. After going through seven of them, I’ve learned you end up doing parts of their job yourself — the pieces that actually turn a facilitator into a manager. You wind up managing yourself and leading the team around you.
I have to figure out what resources we’ll need, set my own schedule, and track down the right contacts — basically run my own shop. The trick is to loop your so‑called manager in just enough to keep appearances.
Honestly, the quality of “managers” this bank hires is shocking. Wells pays them well and gets ripped off in return. The only thing they’re really good at is taking credit for your work. I was relieved when I finally got laid off — I was tired of doing everyone else’s job.
Managers change like the weather. Strange how there are never sunny days.
Maybe you're in a particular role or team that invites those types of managers.
Been here a long while (multiple decades) the handful of great managers I've had were all let go by the current executive team, and the new managers are the typical push productivity at all costs carve-outs that the current executive team loves. The communication ability and talent of the 2-ups has gone in the flaming circular file. My current 2-up has the charisma of a sun-bleached piece of plastic, and a command of businesses speak that would make a 3rd grader envious.
OP you seem like you've got it all figured out why don't you become the manager.
@OP Welcome to Wells Fargo. You ain't seen nothing, yet.