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Insight Survey

I feel bullied by my leadership to take this survey. I don’t want to take it and risk being on the outs due to all the hard truths I’d give, but now our sr leadership is asking us to post an indication if we took it or not on a group team chat clearly so they can see if we have or not. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t. Anonymous is a joke! What would you do? I’m sadly tempted to lie and put middle of the road answers and call it a day.


AI overview of the Oracle Doormat Principle

PSA for oracle emps needing motivation prior to bootstrapping their way out
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The "Oracle Doormat Principle" is a term used by former employees of Oracle Corporation to describe a psychological state where individuals, despite experiencing mistreatment, low self-esteem, or a toxic work environment, remain loyal to the company. This phenomenon is likened to "Stockholm Syndrome," where employees become emotionally attached to an organization that has abused them, often due to prolonged exposure and the internalization of the company's culture as a "family".
The principle suggests that the longer one stays at Oracle, the harder it becomes to consider leaving, regardless of the negative conditions, because of the deep-seated emotional investment and fear of change.

Critics argue that this behavior stems from low self-worth and a paralysis to act in one's own best interest, leading employees to accept pay cuts, benefit reductions, lies, and abusive management without protest, often responding with passive acceptance like "Thank you sir, may I have another!".
This behavior is seen as detrimental to personal career growth and well-being, with some advising that if a work environment is bad, it never gets better and one should leave as soon as possible.


The Board plans to make the company go Public. It's their looting cash grab.

Light up your social burner social accounts with this information to destroy their plan.

A company going public is entirely under the SEC's control. An early leak triggers serious regulatory risks related to "g-n-jumping" and the quiet period, potentially leading to costly delays, increased legal liability, and even the derailment of the entire IPO.


Because You Deserve To Know…..

Hi, everyone.

I will preface this post with a disclaimer:
I have been struggling while working on this post off and on all day because I believe the people who came here looking for answers should get them. I have to be cautious of what I say and how I say it to not tip off my role within the company. If this seems overly vague, I apologize, but please understand that I need to try to protect my own well-being (or what’s left of it, anyway).

Some of you may already know that there has been a clash in ideology for some time between the Board of Directors and the C-Suite Leadership team. The tumultuous acquisition of the CareAllies (HealthSpring) business has only intensified the situation. Maurice has been the mediator between the two for some time, or has at least attempted to be. He has proven unsuccessful in this effort, however.

The board independently sought out an external consultative analysis of roles and organizational structure within HCSC post-acquisition close back in March. The suggested outcome of that activity is what all of us are experiencing today and/or throughout the rest of this week.

It’s being communicated that the decisions of who has been released is based on “span of control”. In reality, it seems purely financial, but incredibly random. Some divisions were asked to eliminate 5% of their total headcount, others were given specific targeted individuals who were high in their respective pay scales (which also coincided with longer tenures in most instances).

This began today (Wednesday) with various roles across various Strategic teams, Finance, Customer Experience, Digital, IT, EPMO, various Product teams, Pharmacy, and some Customer Service Operations verticals. This impacted both HCSC and Cigna conveyed employees, but the logic behind the selections on both sides is confusing, at best. Many leaders were not clued in on these decisions until after the process was well underway.

This RIF will continue into the lower levels of both exempt and non-exempt staff throughout the rest of this week, although I cannot disclose what areas are next to be impacted. I hope you can understand.

The Org Chart will be down for some time, and you can expect to see some significant shake up at the Executive Leadership level.

If you haven’t been able to tell already, the company’s morale is about to be the lowest it’s ever been. Tensions will be high in the coming weeks and months and it’s very likely that this may not be the only round of releases before end of year.

There’s also some discussion taking place right now of a full 5 day RTO to provide expected additional attrition as a means of budgetary relief, but it was settled that this round of RIF was to happen regardless. VSPs for eligible employees is considered a potential contingency plan at this point if attrition goals are not met effectively.

Stay strong and if I can come back with more insight, I will do so.


Analysts don’t believe our chief people officer either

I’m personal friends with some of the longstanding analyst community and today we are hosting our analyst briefings in Mexico. Ajay absolutely embarrassed himself from what they told me and now they question our long term product strategy. This guy is ki-ling us! He even threw up a slide that pretty much said that we had zero talent to begin with and are only beginning our next generation development after hiring a few of his handpicked people. I was told he was blubbering over and over and not making any sense. Can he be removed already!!!


2025 Employee Survey

No longer with APA but hear they sent out an employee survey. Won’t be surprised if minions just lie and APA named a top 2025 workplace. Be honest or don’t fill it out at all, but please don’t lie. Also, why does this cr-ppy company need a CEO and a President? Fire the CEO and save $10m easy. Sitting back on the side and watching this company crash, I feel bad for all the employees that have been there for years. Worthless board, hasn’t done it job and now it’s too late and won’t make a difference. Only hope these fools at the top have is to try and sell the company.


Jason Hand gone

So I had called it earlier in the year, first Junior was going to leave, then Hand, by the end of the year. I said it. The year hasnt ended yet, we shall see whos next, maybe Soler. If the company is in such great "comeback story" why are folks jumping ship? This inverted pyramid is baloney. Store teams are pi---d, running skeleton crews, and executives dont want to see the reality, or they see it, but dont care. Its a sinking ship.


Now that the dust has cleared…

Every move made by the former regime was designed to pump up the stock price so that the supreme leader could cash out. Work 9 hours a day? Stock price. Track your whereabouts? Stock price. Every. Single. Move. While this was going on the leader negotiated a government job - one that he didn’t want, was unqualified for, and won’t keep very long. The kicker: he did it to escape capital gains taxes on the stock sale. On your hard work. On your 9 hour days. The stock, by the way, is down over $100 per share since he cashed out. That’s not just down - that’s a crash. He’s laughing. His cronies are, too. Maybe now that the evil has left the building things might start becoming normal again. I hope so. Nothing wrong with a boring company.


Why haven’t investors sued the board yet?

Boards have one core job: protect shareholder value. Their role isn’t to be friends with management or the CEO — it’s to keep them accountable and make the tough calls when things go off track.

The problem comes when boards get too cozy with the CEO. They stop challenging decisions, ignore red flags, and let loyalty or personal relationships cloud their judgment. When that happens, no one is holding leadership accountable, and the company can spiral.

The result? A CEO unchecked, making bad calls, chasing ego-driven projects, and ultimately destroying shareholder value. By the time the board wakes up, it’s often too late — the company’s reputation is damaged, the stock is down, and the people who suffer most are the employees and investors who trusted them to do their job.

So why haven’t we seen any investors holding the board accountable for their failure. Didn’t they neglect their fiduciary responsibilities by causing up to Mark and allowing him to make horrible decisions that have seriously damaged the organization.


Ego deaths

As an early career professional, this layoff showed me something new. Where I normally get treated like dirt by my seniors and most M’s, I’m noticing alot of ego deaths. M’s who thought they were on top or top ICs, tenured employees - they are all coming down off of their high horses because of fear that they are next.

What has this taught me? No matter how high I climb in my career, I will ALWAYS treat people with respect. Care. Appreciation for what they do. I will not act my title or my degree, but like a decent human being.

I wish this same reality check on those who need to internalize it.


Anyone else notice all the leaders at an on site this week?

I noticed a lot of leaders are at an on site this week. I also noticed Ben Line moved over to Optum on Sparq, but they haven’t announced it officially yet… This is for UHC Ops. anyone know what’s going on? Should we expect layoffs soon with all of this hush hush business going on?


IT CIO

Looks like Ramnik is in for the long haul. Get your white shirts out. Learn to work with Deloitte (DoLittle). His buddies from Deloitte are circling the wagon. The CTO team will be the first impact. Bank and P&C next.

The sinking ship is sinking fast. Time to jump ship.


Another round in 18-24 months - never ending!!!!!!!

Heard this from the HR slaves and also people close to functional leadership - there is another round coming within 18-24 months to further reduce “fat” - wow. Better luck next time jumping off this sinking ship of utter gloom and doom. The leadership and managers remaining are all nepo lovers and love the brown nosing incompetent “friends”. More with less. Woohoo!


Rumor has it…

HUMC to potentially buy out Optum in NJ!!! Has anyone else heard this??? New leadership has been a mess they have no idea what they’re doing! It’s ridiculous and straight up embarrassing that this is what Optum has become!!! What a failure!


RTO

So, either our leadership is in denial or they are completely inept.

I was told by one of the good managers (there are not many, so I am going to leave it there not to out them) that there are a ton of resignations and retirements because of the hard line return to office requirements.

Even people who meet the requirements for an exemption are not being granted.

I am so baffled as to how they didn't see this coming.

How?

They are pushing the date out hoping to convince those leaving to stay.

Spoiler alert, they won't stay

Boeing is doomed unless we can get people in leadership that actually understand human behavior vs understanding that they make the decisions.


Today Felt Pretty Petty and Bad

Today felt pretty bad. The kind of bad where reality and optics are completely out of sync. While Oracle stock surged and leadership paraded promotions and new CEO appointments, there was no mention of the thousands of employees who had just been cut loose. No headlines, no acknowledgment — just silence.

For those who lived it, it wasn’t celebration; it was a gut punch. Families were left scrambling while Wall Street cheered. Real people — with mortgages, medical bills, kids in school — were collateral damage, erased from the story because their pain didn’t fit the narrative.

The cruelty is in the contrast: executives heralded for “transformation” while entire teams vanish without recognition. And it doesn’t stop here. More cuts are coming. Everyone knows it.

Pair that with Larry open alignment with Trump and the company’s growing grip on sensitive data, and the ethical rot becomes impossible to ignore. This isn’t strategy; it’s cynicism. It’s corporate America at its most hollow.

Today felt pretty bad — not just for the people who were cut, but for what it says about what’s celebrated, and what’s forgotten.


The virtual participation trophy -World Gratitude Day

How did you feel when you got that heartfelt message from Jenna? Does it make you feel special to be part of a mass mailing that arrives at 4:09am?

I feel like I become just a little bit more cynical every time one of the c-suite millionaires expresses gratitude en masse for making them a bit richer everyday while we worry if we’ll be able to meet our next mortgage payment if the email ‘tap on the shoulder’ from HR happens.


Tru

How much does it have to underperform the S&P before Cartwrong is fired? I guess the board is watching a different stock market to the rest of us.