Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

AI overview of the Oracle Doormat Principle

PSA for oracle emps needing motivation prior to bootstrapping their way out
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The "Oracle Doormat Principle" is a term used by former employees of Oracle Corporation to describe a psychological state where individuals, despite experiencing mistreatment, low self-esteem, or a toxic work environment, remain loyal to the company. This phenomenon is likened to "Stockholm Syndrome," where employees become emotionally attached to an organization that has abused them, often due to prolonged exposure and the internalization of the company's culture as a "family".
The principle suggests that the longer one stays at Oracle, the harder it becomes to consider leaving, regardless of the negative conditions, because of the deep-seated emotional investment and fear of change.

Critics argue that this behavior stems from low self-worth and a paralysis to act in one's own best interest, leading employees to accept pay cuts, benefit reductions, lies, and abusive management without protest, often responding with passive acceptance like "Thank you sir, may I have another!".
This behavior is seen as detrimental to personal career growth and well-being, with some advising that if a work environment is bad, it never gets better and one should leave as soon as possible.


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Post ID: @OP+1k608sehr

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This has to be a post for a different company, Oracle is a great place to be, I have grown here and my work life balance is beautiful. If anything, my biggest fear is leaving Oracle to another, and missing what i have right now, because my we are a family here at Oracle.

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Post ID: @tc+1k608sehr

@rn My experience was positive too: raises, RSUs, good manager, etc., until the day I was invited to a one on one.

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Post ID: @s0+1k608sehr

I work for Oracle as well..and while pay increases are rare, there are other forms of compensation that makes folks whole and my experience with management had been extremely positive

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Post ID: @rn+1k608sehr

@kn me too

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Post ID: @r5+1k608sehr

Larry, is that you?

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Post ID: @kn+1k608sehr

I had no idea this was a thing. I must be on one of the good teams then

Exactly, I work at Oracle and it's all good!
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Post ID: @jw+1k608sehr

This is d-mb. Plain and simple. Been at Oracle for almost a decade and have never considered a leave. There is a great culture and I wouldn’t trade my position for anything. I have a hard time believe blurbs like this one because I don’t know anyone during my time that felt those kind of toxicities.

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Post ID: @gj+1k608sehr

I had no idea this was a thing. I must be on one of the good teams then. Things have been great and Oracle is the best things that's ever happened to me.

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Post ID: @f1+1k608sehr

No more procrastination. No more hoping this situation will magically be ok. Time to start putting your exit strategies together -- NOW!

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Post ID: @et+1k608sehr

@cy Quitting immediately just because somebody on the Internet told you to isn’t the only strategy. There are other actions you can take, for example starting your own business, saving money or retraining while you work, with the goal of moving on from Oracle in 6 months.

The point is that some people can’t just quit and survive a few months without their Oracle income, which is a bad situation to be in but for many it’s a reality. Staying while you work things out doesn’t necessarily mean you’re afraid to leave.

If you find yourself in that situation you need an exit strategy and a deadline. You don’t need some anonymous person on the internet trying to “motivate” you by calling you a doormat.

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Post ID: @e4+1k608sehr

Guess you are stuck then and life is just a sh*t sandwich. No thought, strategy or action necessary.

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Post ID: @cy+1k608sehr

@b7
Ah I get it now. Calling people a doormat helps them realise the difficult and definitely-not-plain-obvious truth that you shouldn’t let Oracle treat you badly forever, and that the only possible solution must be immediate resignation. I’ll be handing in my notice first thing tomorrow then.

These “just quit” people are heroes. Funny how they always show up when the company is paying out severance packages.

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Post ID: @cq+1k608sehr

@b7 @OP

In my opinion, we get it as well.

There is no person in real life who listens to or respects you. You may not realize this on a conscious level, but at least subconsciously you comprehend it.

In order to fill this longing for acceptance and to feel superior, you fill the ether with your "facts" and toxic attitude.

It's beyond pathetic that your only gratification in life is to demean people, but we all make our own choices.

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Post ID: @c6+1k608sehr

i get it

far easier to get angry at someone pointing out difficult truths than to do any sort of introspection on career or life choices, especially now

though posters have pointed out the risks of working here for a veeeeeery long time. way before ai and the current job market challenges

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Post ID: @b7+1k608sehr

Some people liked the work at home and the extra time with family it afforded, the benefits, and now the decent severance package. Most people who left saw 10-25% pay increases immediately though.

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Post ID: @b0+1k608sehr

and exactly why it is important to continually reassess one's skills wrt the current market

ignore at your own peril

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Post ID: @at+1k608sehr

or, it's just a horrible job market and benefits provided by large company like Oracle
we got families to support, edge boy

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Post ID: @ar+1k608sehr

Or, it’s a term for small-minded people who see everything in black and white and think that the only reason people stay is out of fear of change. Not entirely sure why these people are so determined to try and make people going through a tough time at work feel even worse. Guess they are just trolls with nothing better to do.

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Post ID: @ag+1k608sehr

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