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Seeking advice

I am in non hub and not told to move yet and I am unable to make up my mind whether to move or not. I casually applied for jobs and I am close to getting an offer. My best guess is 25K lower and it involves a 3 day 1 hour commute each week for life. I can’t move closer to new workplace due to kids schooling and my spouse might quit. We have no home to sell.
Should I. A. Uproot my family while spouse quits and go to Plano to start fresh on my own? B. Take the new job, spouse quits and settle down where I am? C. Reject new offer, keep renting and continue the grind unless told to move?

There are personal and financial challenges for each decision and I got no comfort in any of these options. Any advice if you have gone through something similar?


Bye Lousy Job

I never realized how hard the hours worked and weekend on calls were… not for me but my wife. She is fortunate enough to have a job that is pretty much 8-4 everyday.
She never complained when, during the lockdown, about the times I was at my home office desk and she had to bring me a plate of food for dinner. It seems I was never on time for an afterwork appt or meeting. I’ll never forget the time that I was nearly fired for not taking an on-call weekend because my sister was getting married. The boss knew about this four months in advance.

On my last day, a Saturday, I promised to be home on time. And I was. She met me at the door dressed like we were going to a fancy restaurant. She hugged me being careful not o muss her makeup (An inside joke) the scent of her perfume was soon taking a backseat to another of my favorite aromas. She had spent the day making my favorite dish, lasagna with home baked bread and carrot cake for dessert.

I started a new Job a month later. Lower pay, but better hours. That following Saturday I made her favorite dinner.

It’s funny, but it took a layoff to get me to realize what a lousy job I had but more importantly, what a lucky man I am to have such a wife.


Worst org leadership !!!

No other org leadership in the world will treat their employees this badly !! No transparency and courage to support or atleast be honest about what's going on. While M and up taking all the benefits, proactively switching orgs to save their jobs the real hard working ICs are still in the dark. All this company cared is just for M and M only !!


What exactly happens if a someone does not take the Voluntary Retirement Program? Laid off anyway?

This happened to my team mbr. IIRC he was in his 70s. During the final meeting, he said he enjoyed the work and he literally said he wanted to work longer, but he got the hint from the VRP.

What would have happened if he didn't take VRP? Laid off anyway the next round?


4/5 Compromise

We're all in agreement to only work 4/5 days a week and only put forth 80% effort right? for those who havent quiet quit already please do so and stop taking this job seriously. stop slacking ppl, stop scheduling meetings, just ktlo because that is exactly what kkr and elt are doing.


EMPLOYEES DO NOT WANT TO RETURN TO THE OFFICE

They will loose too many employees by forcing time back in the office. Employees have to many advantages by working from home. Less time on the road, less money spent on gas, clothes, food, less wear on vehicle, etc. They can have repairs, deliveries, etc, taken care of without taking time off. They have their own private bathroom and can make lunch at home. There is absolutely no benefit to the employees for being in office. Neither is it a benefit for the employer. Just a micromanagement tool disquised by colorful language like "collaboration" bs.


ALL TALK /FAKE PEOPLE

wow some people aren’t a man of the word , been saying they wanted to get laid off acting like they are financially all set but they are not , they end up getting laid off saying they are so happy because they hate the place , and would never go back , but they do go back because it’s easy and they will be working until they are 80. ALL TALK


Work life balance?

How are we handling work life balance with the new in office requirement? My child is starting kindergarten next year and I’m not sure how to handle the 8 hour in office rule. I previously planned to just pick him up then work from home for a few hours. I have child care, but I’m responsible for the pick up and drop off. The school schedule does not align with work at all. My partner and I already work opposite shifts for daycare drop off and pick up. But the school schedule is much harder to accommodate. Honestly, don’t tell me to hire chauffeur. How do people with kids do it?
I know this isn’t layoff related but I’m not sure who to ask,


I'm tired of hearing about being happy to have a job

People talk like it's the most important thing, but nobody talks about what it costs you. The sleepless nights, the constant knot in your stomach, the way you carry the weight of this place into every part of your life. So yes, having a job is good, but don't tell me I should be grateful for something that's making me miserable.


Fuel Cost, The Environment, or RTO...

Which of these does AT&T actually care about?

Silly question, we already know. Sure, fuel is expensive but people are even more expensive. Think about this, one mediocre L2 PM can cost the company upwards of $200k. That's 40,000 gallons of fuel necessary to keep our fiber team doing the only thing we can do to make money.

If the federal government were to issue an emergency order requiring companies to reduce road and air travel by 1/3rd in exchange for other tax incentives, you can bet you're behind AT&T would jump on board. Remember, Stankey's AT&T is all about the dividends. 100% RTO and relo are severance-free layoffs. Fewer employees = more free cash = better dividends.

States have spent billions on trying to keep drivers off the roads. Companies like AT&T could not care less. The environment is only an issue when it is trending. Just think, in the DFW metroplex, we have millions of cars on our roads every day. A 30 mile trip in your car produces upwards of 25 pounds of CO2 gas. So, 1,000,000 cars produce 25 Million lbs of CO2 gas, every 30 miles! Think AT&T gives a shot? Nope. There's no money in it. They are like little parrots saying "return to work, return to work, return to work"

So, we can complain or we can find other jobs. And, despite the loser narrative, there are jobs. Its just that working at AT&T is bad for business. We aren't exactly in the 'highly sought after' category. Fact is, AT&T loses a lot of smart people every day. Smart people find jobs. Most of us, however, stay because this is an easy ride for ridiculous $$$. We all know it, so let's be honest. Who here actually works a solid 20 hours a week? Do you really think AT&T doesn't know that they have created a company of slackers?

Fuel Cost, Pollution, or Lazy Employees working from home; which one do you think AT&T cares most about?


Moving pulse point locations

Hello all! I am waiting for my manager to return from PTO so thought I would ask her till then as I am freaking out. My current assigned pulse point and where I live is Indy. However, my husband matched for a residency program in Galveston, TX. That is very near Houston tx which is why my husband applied there but that pulse point suddenly closed. Do you think the company will understand and let me be fully remote?


Try to enjoy your weekend as much as you can

Tough times are ahead. Again. I'm training myself to use every moment away from work for myself, to stop carrying it with me all the time. I can't influence what's going to happen, so I can at least try to enjoy what precious free time I have. Good luck to everyone next week. Be good to yourself.


The relief of Friday

I realized just how much I hate and dread my job the moment I realized the relief and happiness I feel come Friday. It's almost physical. Is this really how we're going to live our lives until retirement? I have at least ten years to go, I honestly don't know how my mental health is going to take it.