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True impact of ELT’s decision to discontinue Chevron Mental Health and Substance Use Disorder Plan

During open enrollment last year, HR announced that the company would discontinue our previous mental health plan (Chevron Mental Health and Substance Use Disorder, MHSUD). This change meant that employees and their dependents who were receiving behavioral health benefits via MHSUD would be forced to obtain mental health coverage via one of the medical providers that we selected (Kaiser, Anthem, Cigna).

The HR email alerting us about this change very casually claimed that “the kinds of behavioral health services covered will generally remain the same” and that “costs may change.” Well, that was quite THE understatement!

I find it truly unconscionable that our ELT, who obviously had to have been presented detailed cost impact scenarios showing the devastating impact to employees, willingly chose to implement this significant reduction to our mental health benefits. And they did so knowing full well that people would be struggling even more as a result of the layoffs and reorg.

Since not everyone might have a need for these benefits (consider yourself fortunate), allow me to paint you a picture of the shocking financial impact that our family is facing.

We have the Anthem PPO. I originally called them to find out the per-session fee for this year. They initially stated $0 copay or coinsurance. That did not seem possible, as we used to pay $13 per session last year through the MHSUD plan. I called back, and Anthem stated that our cost would be 40% of the billed rate.

Assuming a weekly session, below is a cost comparison of old vs. new coverage:
— MHSUD cost = $13 x 52 = $676 per year
— Anthem cost =
— $1,000 deductible (we had not spent anything towards the deductible); this covers 100% of our out-of-network therapist’s fee for ~7 sessions at roughly $152 per session
— for the remaining 45 sessions this year, we expect to pay 40% of the therapist’s $152 fee; therefore a total of about $2,750
— that makes our total out of pocket expense for mental health benefits this year ~$3,750
— that is an increase of ~$3,074 (over 455%!!!) vs. the $676 under the old MHSUD plan

My question to MW and whoever else was involved in this decision is how can you possibly justify so callously reducing your employees’ mental health benefits and so drastically increasing their financial burden? Have you NO shame or compassion or, at a minimum, any interest in keeping your workforce mentally healthy?

We’re not talking about frilly perks here. This is MEDICALLY NECESSARY care. Mental health benefits are CRUCIAL in some cases to keep people from inflicting self-harm and possible su----e.

I am beyond disappointed in this company and its senior-most leaders. Somewhere along the way, greed took hold, and for the sake of shaving a few million off CVX expenses, you abdicated your responsibility towards the human beings you employ and their families.

To think that anything will change because of this post is utterly pointless, I know. I feel better at least having documented this egregious display of callousness from MW and the entire ELT. It might be good for all of us to remember that mental disease does not discriminate. Someday it might be you or one of your family members to suffer a mental health crisis. Ask yourself: are you proud of MW’s behavior? Do you feel his and the ELT’s decision about our mental health benefits is justified?


FI, Wealth Toxicity (Are We Alone?)

My group in FI which I guess is now in Fid Wealth (though we haven’t heard anything on how that impacts us) is so insanely understaffed and the environment is so toxic and depressing it’s almost like it has to be on purpose. A bunch of tenured great associates left the company, multiple people on LOA’s, one person got totally f’d and passed over for a promotion and left, and you can’t get PTO requests approved since staffing is so thin.

Clients with billions on platform constantly complaining, associates literally crying in office due to high level of stress and anxiety, management staying in their little offices with the glass doors closed - all the while associates rant depressingly, joke about alcoholism and su*cide. I am d-mbfounded how a decent sized group arrives at this point. VPs walking around with no care in the world, laughing while associates take stress leaves and cry in the office and slam their desks in anger.


A Heartwarming Layoff Story

I just returned to work on 5/28 after being out on short term disability for a heart condition. Apparently I missed the mass video firing? I came back to see my supervisor and others in my team chat as "user unknown" Confused, I reached out to get some understanding of what I missed, I was ignored. So I clocked in and began my day. Member choice center btw. About 2 hours in, I received a meeting invite and was informed that my job was eliminated and was to clock out after the meeting. Which actually is fine because this job was soul su-king and I found something better. I do have a question about severance though. How long does it take to get severance and the email with info on that?


Who's Hiring?

Are there any companies out there that are worth a damn and hiring? Doesn't have to be a bank or FI, just somewhere that those of us who are Grade 12 and up might be able to take our talent, while also being paid well, given solid benefits, treated with dignity, and not put through months of radio silence or fruitless interviews?

Trust and believe, I am doing my best to hold out for the inevitable layoff and severance, but in the meantime, may as well ask.

This company has already almost cost me my life once and I'm rapidly approaching complete hopelessness. There has GOT to be something better out there, right?

...Right?


Mental Health???

I'm going to be honest. The last several months have taken a real toll on my mental health. The constant changes around timekeeping, budget cuts, shifting priorities, and the uncertainty about what's coming next have created a level of stress that follows me home every day. There are mornings when I wake up anxious before I even open my laptop. work is the first thing on my mind, and not in a good way.
I've worked through challenging situations before, but this feels different. When the direction keeps changing and there's little clarity about the future, it's hard to feel confident, motivated, or secure. Over time, that uncertainty wears you down.
My experience at Centene, especially within DXE, has been one of the most difficult chapters of my career. I joined with a lot of excitement and optimism. Today, I find myself feeling frustrated, exhausted, and questioning whether it was the right move for me professionally.
At this point, I'm focused on finding a new opportunity where there is more stability, clearer direction, and a healthier work environment. The day I find that next role will be the day I start turning the page on this chapter.


I wish I wasn't this stressed about my job

But I'm in a tough spot right now, and getting laid off would be devastating. I can't even think about looking elsewhere because life has been throwing one thing after another at me for months. The constant worry about work just makes everything worse. I'd love for things to be different, but they're not. I'm just hoping no big cuts happen until I get my head above water.


What's the deal with people?

There’s a strange tendency online and in workplaces for people to build entire narratives about others from very little actual information.

Not everyone who’s quiet is antisocial. Not every awkward interaction means something sinister. And not every rumor deserves to grow into a story people repeat as fact.

At some point, common sense and basic fairness should matter more than assumptions.

I’ve had a difficult year personally and professionally, and one thing I’ve learned is how damaging speculation can become when people stop communicating directly and start projecting motives onto others.

I’m not interested in drama, conflict, or relitigating anything publicly. I just think people should be more careful about assigning labels to others they don’t actually know, have never come into contact with and never met or spoken. Freaking ridiculous and inhumane.


Care less and live happy

It’s really so simple. Once you start to care less is when the job gets better. Remember you will be replaced one day whether it is retire, die, or laid off. This company does not care about you more than the next person. Take care of yourself first. Words of wisdom from Les Brown “work harder on yourself than you do on your job!”


Got the notice, and I feel good about it

I was already burnt out to the point where I probably would have quit soon anyway. I'm not even worried about finding something else. I know it'll be hard, but I don't care right now. I just want to be free for a bit and recover from dragging myself into work every day. Good luck to everyone, whether you got cut or you're still hanging on.


Almost 2 weeks, How are you handling the mental toll?

I am one of the impacted associates . Was promoted earlier this year then suddenly let go. Two weeks later, I’m still stuck in my room dealing with constant depression and anxiety.
How is everyone else coping with the sudden change . I clearly didn’t see this coming , falsely assume my rockstar status insulated me


Anyone else finding their anger levels through the roof?

With layoffs over our heads, no jobs and managers making up stuff to pretend you are IM instead of meets I go home on Fridays with so much anger. It starts again Sunday night. You gaslight people everyday and this is what you get. Is this week the week my life gets altered through your cr-ppy layoffs? And May is mental health month. Hahahahahaha. What they are doing is literally a recipe for mental health challenges.


I can't afford to be laid off

We have a baby due in just a few months and I've never been this scared about job security. I can't afford to be laid off right now. Not with hospital bills coming and a new mouth to feed. Every rumor about cuts makes my stomach drop. I don't know how I'll be able to deal mentally with constant layoff rumors through all of this.


Take It Seriously!

It has now been over a year since I left State Farm. I know people rant and rave on here about toxic environments, dysfunctional leaders, etc etc etc. But one thing I've discovered over the past 12 months is that the State Farm environment can truly damage a person's well being and self confidence. I was in leadership when at SF, not in Claims. When I started at my new company, in a senior leadership role, it became clear to me right away the stark difference in work environment and leadership health. State Farm subtly pushes you down, questions everything you do, and makes you feel that anything you do is just not good enough.

I didn't realize, even as a leader, just how oppressive and damaging that is to an individual. There is no loyalty, support, appreciation for the workforce from executive leadership. State Farm leadership will praise you one minute and then turn around and make you feel an inch high because something wasn't done according to their expectations.

Instead of complaining, make the decision to leave, if you can. The subtle mental harm that State Farm propagates is worse than you believe.


Torn between hating this job and desperately needing it

The mental toll of participating in unethical decisions, and the pressure we're under every single day, is barely manageable. It leaves marks. But my wife could lose her job any day, my two kids are still in school, and I'm drowning in debt. So I endure. So my family can survive. And yes, I've tried to find something else, even switch industries. But it's really, really bad out there.


Today would have been my 25 yr anniversary...

but I got surplused two years ago. Just came back to check in to see how things are going with everyone. Sounds about the same. It was rough going out there for awhile. The job market is so bad, I applied to over 1000 jobs and it took me 16 months to land a job and it was an indefinite contract job which I'm still in with hopefully FT soon. While the layoff/unemployment/job search process was a nightmare and really did a number on my mental health, some good did come out of it. We were able to pay off every ounce of our debt with the severance. We found an awesome financial advisor and rolled my pension and 401k over and he's made us a ton of money since then, much more than I would have made where it was sitting. It does su-k not knowing if/when this job could end but I'm making $40k more than I was at AT&T and doing much more interesting and meaningful work than I was. The company I'm at now is a billion dollar global manufacturing company and they have their sh-t together so much better than AT&T, it's like night and day seeing what it's like working somewhere that actually cares about their employees. Best of luck to all of you out there. It was hard to lose my job but ultimately I think it was a good thing for sure.


Rejection after rejection

I was laid off several months ago. I've gotten to the final round multiple times since then and each time, they pick someone else. The reasons are always vague and feel like excuses. My self confidence is now completely destroyed. I'm losing sleep and I feel awful. The irony is, I'd give anything to have my job back, the same one I hated for years before being cut.


Everyone Keeps Acting Normal. But A Lot of People Aren’t Okay.

It feels like a lot of people are carrying quiet exhaustion right now.
The layoffs.

The uncertainty.

The pressure to “be grateful.
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The full-time RTO mandates after building lives around flexibility.

The feeling that everyone is pretending things are normal when they clearly aren’t.
If you’re struggling mentally, emotionally, or physically from all of this, you are not alone.
A lot of us are waking up anxious, doomscrolling before work, feeling guilty for not being productive enough, or trying to hold it together while watching teammates disappear overnight. It’s heavy. And pretending it isn’t only makes people feel more isolated.

A few reminders for anyone having a hard time:

  • Your worth is not tied to your badge access, productivity score, or performance review.
  • Fear is an exhausting long-term motivator. Rest is not weakness.
  • Staying connected to people matters more right now than acting “fine.”
  • Small routines help: sleep, water, walks, sunlight, boundaries, logging off when you can.
  • If work is consuming your identity, try to reclaim one small thing that belongs only to you.
    Most importantly: check on the quiet people too. Sometimes the people saying the least are carrying the most.
    This is a dark season for a lot of workers right now. But I hope we can at least make it lighter for each other by being human again.

How are you dealing with all the stress?

Humans are not made to withstand so much stress on a daily basis. We really aren't. Even if our physicals health remains fine (and it rarely does) this all takes a huge toll on our mental health. I'm this close to quitting every single day because of this. There's only so much we can all take.


So, now we wait?

We know cuts are coming, but we don’t know when or any real details beyond that. So now we get to sit around stressing and worrying for who knows how long. I’m sure that’s going to do wonders for everyone’s mental and physical health. I really hate what this place has become and the joke we have for leadership.


VZ playing with employees

If any VPs or EVP are in this form. Please please and please request Dan to do everything in one single go and stop these RIF. People's are mentally challenged everyday by listening to rumors and fake news. Be bold and if Dan requires customers to be his first priority then give employment to his beloved customers and run this company with customers and remove all employees ( Onshore and offshore)


That Employee Survey

First question on the latest employee survey: Are you happy at Ally? (Y/N). This is a loaded question that will be used against you. If your manager in any way suggested/encouraged that you complete the survey and you answered this question, you pretty much own Ally. That question is asking about your psychological health. Ally has absolutely no business asking you to disclose anything about your mental health. In fact, the practice is illegal under federal and state employment laws.