Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Run Forrest Run!!!!

All the people on h1B who moved to Atlanta and Dallas are safe since 2 years. No one is coming after their job. Meanwhile I am stuck in decision paralysis and not making any moves causing anxiety for the family

Whatever option gets you away from AT&T take it.

I guess it depends on you & your spouse’s propensity for risk. Sounds like they are about to quit for reasons outside your RTO anyway so that makes it easier.

Plano/Dallas is as good a place as any to raise a family & work. Many (diverse) job opportunities for anyone in tech, finance, healthcare & education compared to other cities. Also a central location with two airports-so easy/cheaper to fly anywhere within country & international. There are Public transportation options, however you do need a car for everything-including getting to the train station/bus ride & go points. (Yes, there are the homeless always, but plenty office workers so you’ll have white collar company on train/bus.) T salary and benefits are decent, and there is transparency to a certain point.

Here’s a few questions that you’ll need to ask yourself: Are you willing give up local family, friends & community for new possibilities? Does the Texas/Dallas politics align with your beliefs? Are you comfortable with the cultural demographics which has changed in the last 10-20 years? The schools are good, but highly competitive: Will your children thrive in this environment? Homes are expensive, can you afford a lifestyle of your choice on one salary until/if spouse goes back to work? Are you comfortable looking for a job if you’re surplussed/can you survive on no income until one of you is employed? Ate you ok with a possible long commute? Are you ok working in a place that is clearly trying everything relentlessly every month to reduce workforce? And also deal with a workforce whose culture & mindset is being shaped by these actions? If you’re younger, you’ll find more optimistic people & viewpoints btw. So take all this into consideration.

Meanwhile, you’ve found another job with slightly less pay but also less commute until you find a better job/flexibility. Likely you can find another job if you try regardless of where you are, so you have that in your court.

No wrong choice here @OP. But many would envy your position: flexible to move or not, family support, another job choice, an opportunity to get out or fully embrace the opportunity to continue albeit with no guarantee whatsoever at T.

Never relocate under the circumstances the company is using. They are basically signalling you are expendable, and the odds are you will resign. If you do relocate yourself, you will probably be let go in a year or so, possibly less. Is the Plano/Dallas area someplace you really want to live? It's a total disruption for you and your family.

IF a company truly valued you, they would at very least pay for relocation and probably a pay increase. Those days are long gone.

Many people under Hamilton org chose to retire while virtual and also some they moved to Plano and retired after one year of moving.

My project has lots of scope but unsure what cr-p Legg will pull regarding RTO to make it more miserable.

and you finally came to this decision after a few years of hearing about RTO to hub cities? dude, someone really effed you with sunshine up your a-s all this time. you might want to relocate because you sound like the stupid id--t they want to keep !

Wait! Do you even have a spouse, kids, house, and a job offer with a 1 hour commute? This sounds more like a dream wish list. First - get your butt in Dallas HQ before daydreaming of these things.

“ it involves a 3 day 1 hour commute each week for life..”

Why “for life”?

Nothing is permanent. It’s up to you.

There is ZERO loyalty to you and nobody in this current C-Suite cares about you. There have been folks that moved and then got surplussed anyway. DO NOT trust this current C-Suite. Do not move for them. Find another job if you have to, but do not uproot for people who care nothing for you and will throw you out like yesterday's trash. Remember: This company has nothing for you. It is stagnant. It has no sense of true vision. There is ZERO true innovation. Go work for a company that does. Don't waste your time here. Unless you can get a contract with this company for them to pay for your move AND a guarantee of at lest 5 year of employment WITH clauses that make if VERY difficult to fire you, don't do it.

No move without relocation package.

This place is making me hate my life too. Sadly stink doesn’t care about anyone but himself.

I HATE MY LIFE.

If you currently make $26K per year, go with A or C. If you currently make $1M per year, go with B.

If they are not offering relocation assistance and it’s pretty much a wake up call to get lost don’t do it. It’s too risky. Others have done it and gotten cut shortly after while others who were provided relocation assistance seem to be thriving.

If you are made to move, just take the severance. The chances of relocating being a positive move for your life and career is extremely low. Don't go thinking any job is x-x commute or x-x pay cut forever, every job is a temp job. Other opportunities will present themselves and in the future most will be remote friendly. Family first.

The only people who should consider moving should be singles in their 20s who are rootless and highly mobile - which, of course, is exactly the workforce the company wants. It is a fun little age-discrimination shell game that will eventually get AT&T burned in court.

I would never move to another city for a company unless they cover your move expenses. T is has a horrible record of cutting head count of people who have made the move.

Just be a good go--m and make the board and JTS richer.