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I started quiet quitting today

Verizon has shown such disrespect toward all of us that it feels like they can't stand their own employees, and I really no longer feel like doing anything above the bare minimum for this place. Fu-k this place. I'm getting laid off anyway, if not now then in the next round or the one after that. There's no reason to bother anymore.


Cuts hit the people who gave the most

Seeing that long timers were pushed out makes it clear how little this place cares. Some of these folks built their whole careers there. They could’ve offered early retirement or a way to leave on their own terms, but they didn’t. It’s a rough way to treat people who showed up for decades.


Too many bosses and not enough real work

I left PepsiCo place because it felt like managers outnumbered the people actually doing the job. Meetings were packed with folks who barely contributed while a handful carried the load. It was all title collecting and empire building with no real value added. Watching layers pile up while workers got nothing in return was exhausting. I see very little has changed in the years since I left. I hope leadership eventually wakes up and fixes the mess.


All eyes on VZ this week

As a 20 yr employee who was let go last year, I empathize with what you all are feeling this week. But, it feels really good to be on the other side of VZ and moving on with life. I thought my world collapsed when I was let go last year, but I've realized multiple times it was the best thing that could have happened, especially seeing what life is like at VZ now. Sad to see our once great company imploding. Since 2015, it has been a slippery slope down hill. First a small slope, then bigger...then bigger...and now it feels like the slop has near hit bottom. Everyone said a certain leader would run this company into the ground...seems they were right when this was said back in 2018 at the first VSP. May the odds be in your favor...rooting for you Vteam.


What a fun weekend this was

What a fun weekend this turned into, with me refreshing this page nonstop while chugging chamomile just to keep my nerves from going completely wild, only to spend half my time running to the bathroom from all the tea. It felt like an endless loop of checking updates, stressing, and trying to calm down, and I probably slept five or six hours total the entire weekend. The only thing that made it even a little easier was knowing there were other people going through the same thing, and there’s real comfort in not feeling completely alone in it.


Nothin pi---s me off more

I walk the Vz br cafe and while I’m hearing the gloom and doom talk I am blasted by a 120 inch screen w Kevin heart as a ice cream cone, than Pete Davidson for a Vz commercial. Like are we fr? Why are we paying millions to these mo--ns? You think that having those guys in a commercial helps the bottom line even by .0000001 ? NO. Stop wasting millions on stupidity, Jesus


Worst ELT

If you are working hard for this company, dont. They dont deserve any of our efforts or loyalty. They have to be the most hated group of "leaders" in Chevron history and might rank up there on most hated in US history. They single handedly took a much loved company to one that the employees cant stand. They should be ashamed!


Company stress at dangerous levels

Workload is insane and it feels like we’re barely keeping our heads above water. Everyone’s walking on eggshells, worried about getting cut. People talk about leaving, but years in and severance keeps them trapped. Morale is rock bottom and it’s exhausting. It’s hard watching a place that used to feel meaningful turn so cold and ruthless.


Tired of the same old cliques

I’ve been here long enough to see how everything revolves around the same tight circles. If you’re not in their little social crew, you’re stuck watching others get pushed ahead. It makes the whole place feel small and predictable. I’ve stopped expecting anything fair from the system.


I have yet to see any effects of the layoffs or reshuffling

What I don’t see is Nike ever reaching the heights of its old glory again. I actually used to enjoy working here. Now it just feels like any other random job that could vanish at any moment, and I wouldn't even care. You can’t be invested when leadership isn’t, and you can’t feel like part of a team when there’s no team left. We’ve become bland, and cutting people seems to be the only strategy they have to stay afloat.


Amazon layoffs have an extra level of dread

Usually, people are thinking about whether they'll survive within their team. These latest layoffs are about whether the entire team will survive or not. I've never been through anything like this in my life, and I've been working for nearly three decades. It's just on a whole new level.


Shame around layoffs makes no sense

I keep hearing folks whisper about layoffs like it’s something to hide, and I don’t get it. Most of us end up caught in one at some point and it’s got nothing to do with our worth. I’ve been through it myself and the silence only makes everything heavier. We shouldn’t act like losing a job is some kind of personal flaw.


Tech domains - any worth it or all worthless?

Feels like a lot of waste. Where is the value? Can we not do the same with less? Other companies seem to do fine. I don’t know where the value add or money savings comes from anymore outside RIF’s.

Maybe just reset every leader. Don’t know if any are actually well liked by their own teams even.


I'm not here because I want to be

It cracks me up how people talk about teamwork at TD like it’s some magical thing happening every day. Most of us are just patching holes and trying to keep things from falling apart while a few folks float from chat to chat. We stay because life outside the job is expensive, not because we want to be here. I've been here long enough to remember the time when that wasn't the case, but it certainly is now.


My location is understaffed and poorly managed

And you can tell. Not exactly the best setup heading into the holiday season. Some Belk stores look amazing, and I know that only happens because people behind the scenes are ki-ling themselves to keep things together. But there’s only so much you can pull off when you’re short-staffed and the manager seems more checked out than actually concerned about performance.


Can Companies Lay Off People in a Psychologically Safe Environment?

With all the corporate talk about “psychological safety,” I keep wondering: is that even possible when layoffs never stop?
Real psychological safety requires predictability and trust.
Rolling layoffs destroy both.
Here’s what ki-ls it:
Zero transparency. Everything is “realignment,” “strategy,” or “location optimization.” Translation: no one knows what’s really happening.

Random performance hits. One day you’re “exceeds expectations,” the next day you’re suddenly “needs improvement” right before a cut.

No beginning, no end. Instead of one clear RIF, you get drip-drip layoffs tied to RTO, org shuffles, or quiet offshoring.

And everyone knows. Employees aren’t stupid — when people quietly disappear, the anxiety spikes.
Axios recently called this the era of the “forever layoff.” as noted in the previous post.
Micro-layoffs (fewer than 50 people) went from 38% in 2015 to 51% now. Companies do small cuts all year, stay under the radar, and pretend nothing is happening. But workers absolutely feel it — morale, trust, and well-being are tanking across the board.

And honestly, Wells Fargo is the poster child for this — just look at the ongoing discussion in that thread. Rolling layoffs, opaque messaging, shifting “location strategy,” and the slow offshoring creep. It’s exactly the anxiety-inducing pattern Axios described.
So here’s the question:
Can any company claim “psychological safety” when people spend every week wondering if they’re next?

Because psychological safety + perpetual layoffs = corporate fiction.


Thanks & good luck to all!

This site has been great therapy for me. It’s so hard not to be bitter about the situation, our leaders, and all of the uncertainty. Verizon & all the great people here have given me so much over the last 15 yrs. I’ve had the time of my life, hoped it would last, but nothing is forever. I hope it ends well for all of us, but I will tell you that many of the best outcomes in my career came from situations I never planned and never had a say in. Best of luck to all of you!


Does anybody believe this is going to accomplish anything?

That once we shed 15k people, things will suddenly turn around, we'll become more profitable, the stock's going to skyrocket, and all that jazz? Because we've had layoffs before, and all they ever did was leave the people who stayed with even more work. That's it. Oh, and the people at the top got fat bonuses. Which explains a lot.


Not to alarm anyone.

So apparently if you haven’t been asked to give a list there’s basically a 20-30% chance you’re on one already. Also found out one of our bold leaders is buying a lakefront property well deserved! Excellent job at VZ.

Praying for everyone and their families. v teamer family is bs but human to human I don’t want anyone to get chopped but I wish everyone the best


What has CEO contributed to T? 0

Seriously, the guy just cuts heads- couldn’t literally anyone do that? So what exactly makes someone a great leader? Apparently here it’s leading us to lots of debt, pi----g off most employees, forcing overcrowded buildings, having the arrogance to say this is best even though employee surveys says differently, constantly refer to other companies like Amazon that we are following- so really we lead in nothing, and of course the complicit board-made of of other people that knew best and pi---d off their own employees.


Torn between hating this job and really needing it

Judging by how my team’s been feeling, I’m definitely not alone. It makes waiting for next week even harder. There’s nothing to look forward to, just hoping to hang on to a job you can’t stand because there are no real options out there. It’s doing wonders for everyone’s mental health.


Sad day for associates

Today's a sad day as more VSPd or ISPd associates walked out the door.

Some exhaled, took a deep breath and said "good riddance". Others started to cry as they're leaving a place they've called home and family for numerous years.

I'm sad to see the associates go as I know a few really wanted to stay. Also they put in a lot of hard work and dedication into their career.

Until next time, thank you for the training on the work, the ability to be open and communicate with your peers in the every day work.

You'll be truly missed.


Your thoughts on IT

IT is a mess. Never seen it this bad. Its even worse than when Eder was here. What are you seeing in your team? We can't get any decisions made. Nothing is getting done. The only thing we see are jobs heading offshore. Getting out as soon as I can.


Who cares about WF, move on.

Corporate America, including Wells Fargo has been nothing but a source of wealth for the CEOs and executives. They don’t give a cr-p about any of the worker bees who make their salaries and bonuses possible go rake go rough a house go build something do something meaningful with your life because the corporate life will do nothing but drag you down and lower your morale


So, how do you feel this week ?

No pay rises,
Have to use holiday at Xmas,
WFR being bandied about,
Incoming staff earning way more than you,
Takeover rumours,
No job satisfactoon whatsoever, its just a job !!
Me, depressed, pi$$ed off, fed up and hate Mondays knowing I've got another 5 days of same old sh1te !