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Onsite Tracking

Considering taking a position with the company but am reading about their strict onsite policy. Is it tracked by how many days you are on site or how many hours? How is it addressed if you have an offsite meeting or had to work from home part of your day (such as a coworker asking you to join an early or late meeting before or after you are at the office)?


then, the badge became the Culture......

there’s something weirdly perfect about the badge becming the symbol of Ford now... not the blue oval not the products, not eng mastery... not quality.. not even the trucks anymore... it's all about the the badge. that plastic thing everybody has to drag into the building so some system somewhere can decide whether you were “collaborating” hard enough that day!

maybe that sounds dramatic, but what else are people supposed to think?? for years mgmt talked about trust, flexibility, culture, teamwork. They tlaked doing the right thing, all that normal corp sh-t that gets repeated on slides until nobody hears it anymore. then suddenly it all became hotel desks, badge tracking & attendance monitoring, Teams noise + tickets with no context, Outlook chaos, and this fu--ing feeling that your actual contribution matters less than whether your body crossed a doorway at the correct frequency.

That is the part i dont think mgmt gets. RTO was never just about driving in. it was never just about sitting near people. People already said this a 1000 times but it keeps getting ignored, guess it's easier to ingore. The work was getting done. Teams were oeprational & functioning. People had lives arranged around the expectations the company itself created. then the message changed and instead of giving adults an honest explanation. sooo... Ford gave everybody vague culture talk and a badge reader. once a company replaces trust with measuring kpis and attendance, we start measuring back...

That’s where we are now!!

We dont talk about vision anymore... They talk about which buildings badge in and badge out. they talk about hidden readers - wtf??? they talk about whether laptops are being tracked - wtf??? they talk about who gets to stay remote while everybody else burns time commuting to a hotel desk - wtf?? they talk about who is actually in the office and who just appears to be - disgusting .

I dont even know what is true anymore and that’s kind of the point... the rumor is now more believable than the official message because at least the rumor matches how the place feels.

people joke about badge games and the old badge switcheroo and whatever... the badpart is that nobody is shocked. that tells you pretty much all. when attendance becomes the culture - then compliance becomes the game. u are what u measure... when presence becomes more important than output we stop thinking like builders and start thinking like defendants - thats where we are right now. how do i protect myself and how do i avoid getting tagged and how do I make it through the week without becoming somebody’s spreadsheet problem. fu-k that - that is surveillance with a better word attached to it. the office itself doesnt even feel like a place people are excited to go to. hotel desks, noise, random seating, Teams sh-t, scattered documents, meetings that dont need to exist (and half people on the call are remote anyway - they are just 'luckier' than us) and tickets thrown over the wall with barely enough info to understand what anyone wants. Then we are supposed to pretend this is some magical face to face culture revival?? OMG!!! if anything, it makes the dysfunction harder to ignore because now everybody gets to sit inside it physically while being told it is good for them.

The double standard is what really eats at people some people are full remote some people call in from home. All whileothers deal with the commute and the badge counts. some people get flexibility and some people get monitored. leadership can dress that up however it wants but employees notice. they always notice. you cannot build morale on exceptions that nobody will ever explain. u cannot keep saying fairness and culture while one person gets freedom and another gets tracked like a bad actor by default...

F still has people who want to do good work... they are still here. engineers, IT people, managers trying to shield teams, coworkers helping each other survive the mess, people carrying extra responsibility after job cuts... people who know how broken the systems are but keep things moving anyway. the company is still being held together by people. not your fu--ing badge data. not your fu--ing attendance dashboards. not another fu--ing leadership slogan. just us, tired people who r trying to get through the day without letting the place take more from them than it already has.

so yea... the badge became the culture. NOT because we wanted it that way. because trust left first.


A warning to Mac users: bossware was remotely installed on my machine yesterday.

Yesterday, my computer started lagging and freezing. I use a high performance MacBook Pro, so this was odd. I tried to restart, but I was stopped by a pop-up that said "NexThink" software was being installed and restarting would cause data loss and performance issues. The popup disappeared in less than a second and my computer restarted.

Sure enough, when I checked my task manager logs, a handful of processes from "NexThink" were running, which I'd never seen on my machine before.

I was also one of the Mac users whose in-office time wasn't accounted for in the first quarter. So, while I'm hoping this is a fix to that issue, it seems like it's mostly just employee monitoring software.


Rebadging

Got laid off today from Gainwell due to badge/rebadging, offshore changes, AI implementation, and poor management decisions.
Multiple accounts were affected, with around 50 people laid off the same day.
No prior notice — it all happened immediately.
Frustrating situation, but I’m staying focused on what’s next.
If you know of any opportunities, I’d really appreciate a referral.


Inaccurate RTO data

If anyone is negatively impacted by "not meeting the RTO goal" and is fired, you better run and file a case. Document that they admitted their data and reporting was inaccurate and inconsistent. They falsified reporting!!! Also, its a tad bit discriminatory if they are punishing people inconsistently and there is no Policy or equal treatment but "discretionary". This is too easy and seems targeted. Are you over 40? A woman? A POC? Regardless of whether people like it or not, there are laws that are still applicable and you cannot target, discriminate or retaliate. File complaints. Document! Document! Document! Our HR is a joke! They leave it vague depending on no one knowing their rights and think their too big of a company to fail. Learn your rights and how to fight. Too many running on fear and thats how they got you.


Stand up and stop this madness

Why are we wven asking how to comply and trying to plan how many hours? PAY ATTENTION!!!! It doesnt matter when they are inconsistent and change the rules on a whim without appropriate consistent documentation and communication. If none of us comply then are they gonna consistently fire all of us? Some of ya'll need to watch A Bug's Life. 😆 There is more of us then them. Get off your knees and take the boot off your necks. Clearly their tracking is off so until they put clear consistent guidance what are you complying with and why? Lets all call in sick or take PTO for a few days. Let it fail and watch how tables turn.


Man, I Love Fridays (M!LF)

Friday tomorrow. You know what that means. I’ll be in the office at 5AM sharp to drop off my laptop. I’ll connect to the LAN and clear my inbox, then head home around 7 to eat breakfast abs watch the masters. I’ll sit on the couch all day and drink beer as I watch every angle of every shot. Around 1 when I’m on the way out to the bar with the fellas, I’ll stop by the office to pick up my laptop after a solid 8 hours are logged. Nobody I work with is in the same office as me anyway so nobody can even question it. As long as your report shows 8 hours, nothing else matters anymore. I’ll check in again Monday morning. RTO has changed my life and now life is good. All you gotta do is “show up”.


Badge Access Logging question

To people who have seen the badge access reports.

I am trying to understand what information is included in the badge access reports. Could you please help with the following questions?

Timing & delay: When are the reports created? Is there any delay before the data shows up?
Time details: Do the logs show exact times (hour and minute), or only the date?
Location details: Do the reports show the exact building, and door/reader used for each scan?
Entry/exit records: Does the report record every swipe in and out, or only the first and last entry of the day?

Thanks


What's with the site visit page these days?

The last week or so, on the "site visits" in workday it said something about "ODW" and now it says "as we transtion to enterprise to the enterprise platform, site visit reporting will be retired." Uhhhh what?

IF i had to make a guess, it's something to do with maverick going live in May but I could be wrong... I'd love to think that this means they won't be tracking anymore but... I can't see that happening, unfortunately.

They are probably - for some reason - going to take the site visits visual away from us so we can't see how many days we've badged in, that way people can't "plan" ahead of time for days/weeks they want to not go in, or some bs like that.

I keep an excel spreadsheet with my days because the badge readers are sketchy and I make sure to stay for at least an hour or so, that way I have literal proof that I WAS in the office if push comes to shove... "it says you were only in 3 days last week, how come" pulls up VPN logs and shows that i was connected to a dell internal network 5 days. Luckily I have access to my own VPN logs :)

A simple splunk querey can and does pull up those who ACTUALLY CONNECTED to a Dell network, btw. I've done it myself.

But, wtf does this even mean lol? I don't think tracking is going away because I feel like there would be an official email stating that?


Corp badge in/out

At the end of February, each department at corporate will have detailed Attendance data for their staff. Every employee will fall into one of many buckets;

In office but less than 4x week
low time, meets 4x week but less than six hours in the office on multiple days
No time- Which is never in the office. This is to verify the “exceptions”

Get your resumes ready because there will be a wave of disciplinary cuts as a result of this.


In person attendance tracking

Here’s what stands out:

It specifically flags badge-ins at non-designated buildings.

Amazon says managers must use discretion, but the data is now standardized and on-demand.

The conversation is no longer about remote vs. office. It's about measurement vs. trust, and input vs. output.

Do our managers track our location/ badge ins?

https://www.storyboard18.com/brand-marketing/amazon-tightens-in-office-mandate-oversight-with-new-monitoring-tool-87342.htm


Amazon's New Manager Dashboard Flags 'Low-Time Badgers' and 'Zero Badgers'

This question was asked a few times in this forum.

  • Yes, companies have started tracking "how long" instead of just "if" people badged in.
  • The sensors were there, but aggregation was not so common .. till now.
  • https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-flags-employees-rto-office-2026-1

Anybody want to take bets the RTO mandate was to use against us for layoffs?

Dell mandated the 5 day RTO for multiple reasons but one of them I think is because they have a plan and that plan is to use it to let go a LOT of people who either never abided by that policy, OR didn't go in enough/quarter. Which technically speaking, is a valid reason to lay someone off as they are not following the company policy.

They have a solid years worth of badge tracking now and those who were supposed to go in but didn't, are likely gonna be on the chopping block. They made it so that anybody who is within a 60 minute drive has to go into office, which is very unreasonable and they know it was. 30-35 minute drive should have been the cutoff IMPO but it was an hour because they know that a lot of those who do live "within that hour" but have a 55 min commute, are likely either going to quit or straight up not go in 5 days/week.

idk, I've lost the incentive to do an amazing job. Why should I when there is no "pot of gold" at the end for me?


Raise without promotion?

I've worked and pushed extra hard for my in-seat promotion all year, after years on team and at same low C-level trying to get my AVP which I see as finally earning your stripes within Citi.

I've done pretty well with raises the past couple years and pretty sure I've got to be maxing out my salary in the undisclosed 'salary band(s)'. Been getting signals that it's looking pretty positive for this new year also, but no sign or mention of promo.

Is it possible to be earning within the next band without the badge?


Trying to understand the whole RTO thing

If it’s not in set stone writing by HR … how can they really even enforce this?

Also do we know yet how managers will be getting reports of employees coming into the office?

Is it by badge scans? By seeing if device is connected to building WiFi?


What happens if you work from two different locations same day?

Does it show that you’re not at assigned location if you take a meeting from another building but you’re at your assigned building for most of the day? Im in Minneapolis towers and sometimes asked to attend meetings from the other building downtown.


Badge swipes at other offices

heads up - if you are swiping in at an office that does not match your formal office location, they are definitely looking at you. Ask your manager to change your location (if possible) or start coming in to the correct location otherwise this is the excuse they’re looking for…


Pull the camera footage!

Apologies if this is another sad post, but can someone clarify how in-office attendance is actually tracked? Are we talking badge swipes, IP addresses, or just whatever the reporting AI spits out each week?

I keep landing on these “magical” lists that show I’m not here even though I’m in the office 8.5 hours a day, three days a week. Meanwhile, there are folks coffee badging or popping in for a few hours who never seem to make the cut. I’m not trying to police anybody else (what they do is not my business), but this system does not line up with reality.

We used to be able to check our own badge records, now it’s “ask your manager”. I believe my manager’s is advocating for me, but honestly, at this point I feel like I have to advocate for myself, too. If this is really about looking for reasons not to give bonuses or reasons to push people out just say that. Don’t lie on me.

Just venting, but also genuinely asking for some transparency.


Badge tracking

Managers: “Work in the office OR ELSE HR will catch you! 🤬”

HR: “new managers misunderstand the policy and we have a 3rd party vendor, managers are notified of a trend before us”

So is the truth that managers get a higher bonus for people being in the office? Perfect attendance has done nothing positive for my career. Just makes it harder for me to do my job.


If we can get detailed reports on hours employees are working why can’t we…

Get reports that are business critical? I mean there are so many things that are backwards but we’re focusing on keystrokes and badge swipes? Priorities seem a little backwards. If employees can’t deliver get rid of them for cause. If employees deliver and they aren’t in the office a certain number of hours what’s the difference?