Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Managers were told in a meeting that the clock starts at badge in, and ends with the last network activity of the day.

My in office has been accurate so far but my building is badge in and out. I was told it uses first and last badge swipe for the day.

Anecdotally I heard that IP address was used as well.

I can’t say I’m surprised the reporting will be messed up bc our stuff is generally junk and there are plenty of half a$$ed developers around.

If they’re going to keep that close watch on us we should have access to the reports and what goes into it.

@ap I don’t buy that. Teams will show mw away when I’m doing emails or on teamworks.

Seems like these offices would all have cameras at the entrance/exit so if there was a dispute it could be remedied.

@b2 After you left for the day, did you remote in from home later?

'Cause I think if you remote in later, your IP would show active. Not sure that they can filter for IPs by building. That would require extensive knowledge of the network setup

@b2 no need to start a timer
Windows has a uptime function accessed via Task Manager/Performance tab

Two weeks ago my two up pinged me for an immediate meeting with my new boss. They had me on a list of not doing 8 hours in office. My two up said he knew I was there three days a week because he could see in video on Teams meetings. I told him that yeah I was probably not quite making the 8-hour requirement but I would do so going forward.

My building is badge in only - there are no turnstiles or anything to track when you leave so the only way they could have known how many hours I was in the office was to track by IP.

So now as soon as I log onto the network I start a timer on my phone for 8 hours and leave as soon as it goes off. No more logging in from home in the evening, no weekend hopping on just to make sure I'm ready for Monday. They get 8 now. Congrats WF, you turned me into a clock watcher.

Could it be that you are not going to your assigned office?

There's a reason alot of companies have dropped the tracking tools they've used. They aren't accurate. AT&T, Samsung, etc... Wells is late to implement, and likely will be late to figure out it's a waste of resources

if you are showing up on a report when you are certain you should. jt be I would request a copy of the report and a detailed logging of the underlying data behind that report. Also, file a ticket with HR. The days in office report has been around for a while now and while trash at first they have most of the kinks worked out. The hours in office report has been in sr. mgmt hands since early this year and they too have been working out the kinks, that is why they are just now starting to use it to go after non compliance. I am sure there will be edge cases where it misses something but make sure you push back in those cases. even if your building doesn't have a badge out , when leaving for the day just swipe your badge at the door to your floor.

Teams has to show active for 8 hours.
If you show away, you lose

I too am 100% for certain hitting 3x8 and have been for months. I keep landing on reports and can’t figure out why.

One location I go to each week requires badge in and out. The only thing I can think is that when I step out for a quick walk or to pick up lunch, I’m being “checked out” of the time tracking. And that’s really messed up for an exempt employee, to tell them that they can’t take a quick stroll to clear their minds after an intense couple of hours of focused work.

If the reporting is going to be that granular, then why did WF drop millions renovating the campus with new walking paths, a basketball court and pickleball courts? I haven’t felt this micromanaged since working a high school service industry job. This isn’t the professional career I signed up for.

take a picture each day of yourself when you get to the office and at the end of the day when leaving

Are you logged in and actually working? Like in meetings on Teams or responding to emails? I know keystrokes can be monitored too.

For what it’s worth, our LOB just announced their working on a separate dashboard from the enterprise one that we’ll all have access to that will enable us to keep track of our own in-office days. So far it’s just days though I think, no word on if/when there will be time. Hopefully other LOB’s will start doing something similar?