If it’s not in set stone writing by HR … how can they really even enforce this?
Also do we know yet how managers will be getting reports of employees coming into the office?
Is it by badge scans? By seeing if device is connected to building WiFi?
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Badges track coming into the office, but not everyone badges out. Tracking is done on laptops and mobile devices via the wireless access points
@bf I don’t “believe” that. I know that, objectively. I’m an electrical engineer. These aren’t ideas that you get to have opinions about, no matter how much the absurdity of our current cultural and political discourse would have you believe you can.
These are technological limitations. Physics. There is no meaningful power source in your badge. That’s what RFID (what you use to scan badges, open hotel rooms nowadays, pay with contactless card) closes a figurative circuit in essence. It only works in extremely close range. The other way to track something is with Bluetooth. GPS is not at all accurate enough inside buildings, especially with concrete walls. Cell phone triangulation is markedly worse than GPS. The other forms of remote sensing use light and are rare and inefficient for this use case. All of them require installation of physical hardware that is not installed at Plano or Purchase. It would, again, be a massive undertaking. Unbelievably expensive given the square footage.
You are a fu--ing id--t. More than that, you’re pathetic and awful; as I said before, why are you spreading false fear? Actual coworkers of yours, human beings, are the others on this thread. Whether they work in the field or in an office, bullsh-tting all of them with your conspiracy theories is fu---d up.
Arrogance and entitlement all in one post…
Some of us work with our brains and some of us work with our hands and feet. Doesn’t matter at the end of the day because we all work for the same fcked up company
@de Some of us work with our brains, we don't need to be out in the field picking potatoes or whatever it is you do.
CR calls it correct - those of us working full weeks in the field, regardless of the weather or virus running around see you for what you are: TAKERS.
Now go adjust your snuggies and slippers…
@cr this guys family life su-ks so bad he NEEDS to be in office. Make sure you ask for knee pads this Christmas with how hard you’re gagging on it.
Oooh, there is snow on the ground…
Soft, soft, soft…
And where are these decisions being made? Plano where a cold day is 50 Fahrenheit and a dusting of snow shuts down the city? India where the average temperature is 90 degrees? Mexico City whose streets are lined with palm trees? There are thousands of us, including myself at the OPO in Chicago, who live in climates with brutal winters. It’s not even officially winter and we’ve already had more than a foot of snow and the temperature is below zero. No one’s safety and health are worth some imbecilic mandate to sit in a “hotel” system cubicle and answer emails and go on teams calls. For the office based roles - it’s a ridiculous mandate which will fail.
@bf I say BS to this. Not everyone got new badges I still have the same one for over 20 years and if it can really detect where everyone is with just badges the why does security need to scan the RFID tags around the building when they make their rounds it shoud be able to detect where they are all the time too. Nobody has an area to be in with the hotel style seating you can sit somewhere different every day so where are you "supposed" to be ?
@av You go ahead and believe that. So, Why do you think everyone got new badge??? Maybe they just had money to waste. They just didn’t like the color of the old ones.
You are obviously not from IT and your doing exacted what leadership is saying.
Here the thing big boy….. I saw the weekly report for our department. They asked me why I was away from my area for more than two hours and in another area. I disputed their claim…they showed me the report showing the area I was in for two hours. Deny the claim all you want, I saw the report!
Don’t understand why you guys are so vehemently opposed to people working from home. Saying soft seems to just be projecting your own insecurities.
I can guarantee you so much more gets done at home for a majority of roles here. At home there is none of the BSing with coworkers or wasting time on a commute. To be completely honest, I’m more than okay keeping coworkers as coworkers, I don’t NEED to see them in person every week…they aren’t my family or my friends.
If your home life su-ks THAT much where people that WFH are “soft”, then I think you may need to reevaluate.
Please, please. Do not devote any time, resources or attention to this thread. We have much more important things to discuss than what’s happening right here
@ap I’m at Plano and never got a new badge….
You people are softer than baby po-p.
@ap This is complete bullsh-t. They are RFID cards, not bluetooth-enabled. You don't understand how tracking technology works. Yes, in-and-out scans can determine timestamps for visits. However, tracking into the bathroom? Why would you lie about that?
For that to be possible, several million dollars of bluetooth sensors would have to be installed, room by room, across every office, to scan the presence of these magical ID cards. The cards themselves would likewise need a battery or other energy source.
Coming on this site when so many people are living in fear of feeding themselves and their families and spewing bullsh-t is the lowest of the low.
@ap I never got a new badge. I have still have my original badge from when I was hired over 15 years ago
@ap How can they know when your are leaving in Plano when you only have to scan your badge to enter you dont scan your badge to exit the building it just opens automatically when you approach it.
Here’s the deal. Related to Plano HQ. The new ID cards issued track when you come in and leave the office. VPs get a weekly status report to help track. If you don’t like that, you won’t like what’s next..
The new card also allows them to track where you are in the building. If you’re at your desk. How long? How long you’re not at your desk. Cafeteria. Also, yes the bathroom. I have verified this information with my IT contracts.
After Monday you may not have to worry about coming to the office. You may not ever come to the office again. At least not a PepsiCo office.
The big deal is not having a freaking desk, reserving one only to come in and find some mo--n sitting there and you have a call in five minutes. My Sr Director: “You have to be in five days a week.” Me: “Give me a desk.” SD: “We are hoteling.” Me: “There are three thousand seats and four thousand people. One thousand people are going to be in quiet rooms, conference rooms and the cafeteria. It is not my fault the company dropped 200MM on a building that they were leasing before the pandemic hit.”
That’s the conversations you have when people worry about optics instead of reality.
I believe there is a report HE can pull of badge scans. Managers can request them
What’s the big deal about having to be in the office 3-4 days a week? This affects me and it doesn’t grind my gears.