#pto

B4 tech mgr here, during a recent internal audit, HR department discovered widespread misuse of vacation time across multiple departments, including associates taking unapproved extended leaves, extra days not reporting to workday, overlapping PTO with sick days without documentation, or logging vacation while working remotely on company tasks.

Leadership has officially warned all managers to tighten oversight, and HR is now actively reviewing records with potential disciplinary action (up to termination) for violators. Going forward, every vacation request will be scrutinized, and any past discrepancies could trigger immediate corrective discussions , double-check your own records now and reach out to your manager if anything looks off before they come knocking. Better safe than sorry.

Let's say every worker averages 100k. So each personal day is ~$400 on average and each worker uses 2 personal days during Christmas because they dont carry over. Let's also exclude NJ workers from the equation who get 90 days notice.

Since they don't pay out personal days it saves up to ~5-10 million by getting rid of Workers before Christmas week. As opposed to being off books on 12/31.

does it mean layoff? if someone gets a ‘below expected impact’ rating, does taking FMLA or PTO offer any temporary protection, or could HR still move forward with actions while the person is on leave?”

Your vacation balance will be paid out the next normal paycheck after your off payroll date and the severance is above an beyond your vacation time payout and will be another payroll period after vacation is paid out at the earliest

Are people going in this week? Not using any PTO, but based on the OOO messages, I’m assuming it’s going to be a ghost town.

I'm curious about how the future of our jobs is shaping up. Given all the changes happening, I wonder what might be next. They've already shifted our request process to only go through workforce, and no longer allowing instant approvals for hours available like before. In an email, they mentioned upcoming changes in now going forward into 2026 regarding PTO requests, which makes me think we're in for more shifts ahead. Plus, they continue to ask for volunteers to work through our lunches and before or after our shifts. It raises questions since I thought breaks and lunches were a legal requirement. I'm left wondering if these changes are the new norm and what insights others might have about what's really going on. What can we anticipate in the coming months?

I’m employed until December 20th. Are we required to work, meet with our boss, be available? I’ve already scheduled a vacation for next week.

Been a loyal NTAP employee for over a decade. I was told to burn my PTO in exchange for all the time off that i wanted. Then you lay me off and keep the $20k that I would have had coming to me if you had not told me to use it ASAP. So glad to not be working for this company anymore, how awful you are to the people that once made you great. What a terrible leadership team that is now in charge of a once great company. Keep sc--wing your employees and see how that works out for you in the very near future........

When some one gets RIF
do they lose all their unused Pto also?
Hope they get good severance package
What else they need to know

I was informed my position was eliminated today.

I was told by my supervisor that I don't have to do any work (including transitioning any work to other teams) or charge any time for previously scheduled PTO.

Is that correct?

Had a pre scheduled PTO day, wondering if they’ll still call or wait until tomorrow. I’d like to get this cr-p over with.

Anyone know if personal hours are also paid out in addition to unused pto? In CA we get an annual payout in the spring so I am wondering if that would also be included in addition to our pto payout and severance (yes I know severance and pto are paid out separately)

It’s honestly a sign of how many entitled people we have here who are overly obsessed with wellness week. Working 9 to 5, in person, at your desk… with PTOs… is that really that difficult?

And for HR, if the goal is to let these naïve people out, raise the lifetime discount bar from 5 yrs to 10. You’d be surprised how many people would end up leaving, since that perk, along with wellness week is what so many seem to value the most.

Anyone have clarity on what half day pto convert to in terms of hours? Its listed as in office day but does it count as full 8 hours worked?

When you give 2 week notice and they let you go immediately, do they pay you those 2 weeks>?

What about unused PTO?

I was laid off waited for the severance PTO bonus all that jazz and I couldn’t be happier. I am officially retired. I can now enjoy my life without all the Wells Fargo drama between Social Security 401(k) and other investments. I’m making more than I did at Wells Fargo I’ve been in many engineering jobs And Wells Fargo is nothing but a joke. I am really glad to be gone.

Reddit said PRTO is being capped at 80 hours next year

I have a very trusted connection to a manager who is connected to a SVP in North TX and there is another RIF coming up mid-late Nov. Each time they have told me it’s been true so I’m guessing this next one is as well. I don’t have specifics but it’s a good number of people. If you have any PTO beyond 40 hours use it up cuz they won’t pay you for it. If you get past this one plan on applying for a new job. I don’t know how they can keep cutting so many and still function. I wonder if the C-suite gets wind of sites like this and reads the impact and disgust people have for them. People just want to work and make a difference and get a paycheck to live. Not get all involved in drama but here we are loving our teams but hating corp. it’s sad.

Does anyone know what changes we can expect come January? PTO, insurance, 401k match? When the remaining 1000 layoffs will happen?

What a terrific company. I love the unlimited PTO and all the tools available to drive our career ambitions.

If you feel like there’s going to be a lay-off on a particular day, take PTO for that day. They can’t legally lay off someone on PTO, so they’d just add a different name that isn’t out that day to do that.

I was wondering if anyone who joined Oracle before 2018 and were on the accrued vacation hours system before the switch to Flex PTO, is aware that Oracle deducts accrued vacation hours each year during the company-wide Winter Break.

What this means is over time, any vacation hours saved up before 2018 would eventually go down to zero — and employees leaving the company now wouldn’t receive a payout for those previously accrued hours.

For those who joined after 2018, their Winter Breaks are fully covered without any deduction (because there's nothing to deduct). I’m curious if others have noticed the same.

What do you think about the new PTO policy. 80 hours of protected PTO for sick time, the remainder for personal time off. The total PTO remains the same. Effectively reducing personal time off to as little as zero or 40 hours (5 days) for newer hires.

Requested severance a year ago and was denied. Started plan to quiet quit and leave in a year. Had 6.5 weeks pto that i used to drag out projects and be gone during critical times. They tried to get me to RTO. I gave them a doctor's note that had reqmts they could not meet so i stayed remote. I ended up implementing 1 CR before leaving this fall.
It was the easiest year i had ever worked while making other arrangements for myself.

Think strategically for yourself and plan ahead and remember you owe them NOTHING.

Heard several say 4 hrs PTO don't count as day in, but I've also heard from others it does. In the same umbrella! Is it truly mgr discretion? Mgr site says it counts. Wondering what others think or have been told Btw.. no problem going into office

I don't understand if this is a good change, or bad.

My understanding: We will get 7 days for PTO in event of illness and the STD starts on Day 8. That is 26 weeks. Then no unpaid extended leave, correct?

What would be the underlying cause of such changes?

Everyone ready for the big changes coming for benefits? Going to be ugly with rates going way up, less PTO and freezing of the pension. RTW 50% of the time effective June 01, 2026. 2026 is the year I leave SF!

I’m using up PTO next week Monday through Friday and here’s why you should too. It’s been proven that if you’re OOO during layoffs you don’t get laid off. They cannot lay you off when you come back because the lay offs need to happen on that date they’re scheduled for. If they don’t happen on that date because you’re OOO then they won’t happen at all. It skips you!

Hi - i’m just wondering if anyone knows when we will get paid out our vacation days. There’s no way my vacation days were paid off for my seemingly last pay check I just received. Can we expect it with our severance or is this another kind of pay check we are getting? Sorry this is my first experience ever with this. Also have a baby on the way and am needing everything I can get from them that is mine.

Also, it's state specific

Was informed by manager we need to adjust our in office days when there is a bank holiday or we use pto to still be in office 3 days. Asked HR via chat and was informed this is correct and there is a new article that can be found through the myhr web page. "Workforce strategy guide". Looking through the faq there is a clear question regarding making up holidays/pto and the answer is a clear no you do not have to make up time spent on vacation or out of office for bank holidays. When hr is giving mixed answers what the cr-p are we suppose to do? I want to follow the rules but not be je-ked around by management.

I have noticed that paying for the balance of remaining days off is something that they do not like
If you remember there was a strange shutdown in the middle of the year that they forced on us before doing that monster LR like an year ago.

It is highly probable that they will again do it in Jan/Fen and not in Nov.
Any thoughts ?

What happens if I’m on PTO the day they do layoffs? Will they call me on my personal phone, or wait until I’m back in office the next week?

My manager informed us that you will be penalized for taking PTO halfway through the day and leaving early since it will count as a day in office where you spent less than 8 hours.

This company really needs to get its act together and send out official information about this tracking. Nobody knows what the he-l is going on

Just when youthink HCSC can’t go any lower it does!! 😱😱😱 if you are mid professional and have been at HCSC under five years and live in Illinois good for you, you get three extra days a year. But for those that live in Texas and other states, you don’t!! I guess HCSC couldn’t level up the field of PTO to make it right.

Terrible…
Less benefits…
Less PTOs…
Sweat shoppish management …
Job cuts…
No diversity and that means not a single American in any layer above me or even around me…

Ohh wait that was the similar in ELV IT too.

IT had layers and layers are Indians. Several of them totally not competent by far. Speak English in a weird way with disregard and disrespect to grammar, pronunciation and several times etiquettes. And worst they keep hiring Indians ONLY. How? They bring cheap -ss Indians as contractors and then convert them. Companies like UST are partners in that crime.

They don’t even want to engage with white Americans nor do they want you around. They keep talking to each other in their mambo jambo local language and keep warming smelly food in the kitchen.

yeah damn it, this happening in USA.. not in Bangaladore.

Most deep dive analyst are now predicting bankruptcy as soon as 2026. Even with stock going so low nobody will buy the company.
Get what you can out of the pension fund now.
The cuts were just a show, most were at or near retirement age.
With no raises and flex PTO and no 401K match in 2026 is a sure sign of bankruptcy planning.

What's the rule for this or just point me where to look as I am unable to locate the information? I was planning to leave anyway but I'd rather take severance and my PTO.

Should we try to use up PTO now before this potential October 28th date? What is everyone’s plan for their accrued PTO?