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Sales Reps who were hoping to get promoted

I’ve been here for almost a year and a half. Top performer in my store, we’re a small store not super high volume. I was wanting to move up to Assistant Manager and eventually Sr Manager Retail. But I don’t see that happening. There’s no new stores being built around me, nobody is being promoted, my store managers have stayed the same since I was hired. why would they promote a top performer when they can just keep performing?


Is GVSE Being Reshaped Into Early-in-Career Roles?

Anyone else seeing what’s happening in GVSE right now? From what I’m hearing, any new roles are being restricted to grade 7/8s. Combine that with all the automation initiatives being pushed on us (auto discounts, auto del reg approvals, auto emails via Gong), and it really feels like the intent is to make these “Early in Career” roles going forward.

For those of us who’ve been here for 5+ years, it’s hard not to feel like they’re trying to clear space for younger, cheaper talent. There’s almost no room left to be strategic or to bring real experience into the process. Leadership has done little to help us adapt to this new pod model. No real enablement, no clear direction, just constant change with minimal support.

Honestly, I’ve never felt more de-motivated in my career at Cisco. It feels like the GVSE space is slowly collapsing, and we’re being left behind in the process.

Wondering how everyone else is feeling in the GVSE space. Am I just being paranoid?


Who defines growth?!?

As I reflect on the town hall from yesterday I can’t help but wonder who defines growth? They say associates ask for this but don’t ask what associates mean when they ask for this. Instead they highlight trainings and lateral. Maybe this isn’t what people mean. Beyond this when people apply for lateral roles often there is automatic responses there is not enough experience. This feels like a facade. Do people want more trainings on top of increased responsibilities? Or are people asking for opportunities for more pay and higher title levels?


Not sure what to do

I started my career late in life. Been here for 5+ years. I was offered another position with another company. Unfortunately this company has layoffs like many others in our sector. Not sure if I should accept it or just remain here. If you had the change to move on would you? Or would you remain here due to the amount of time you've put in? Also, pay and benefits are about the same.


5 Years Layoffversary!

For those fallen during 2020 layoffs, the 5 year layoffversary is coming up. How are you celebrating departure away from the XOXic (XOM Toxic) environment? How was your experience with Layoff, good bad? And how are you doing now? Let's provide some real insight and inspiration to those still there who have only made to believe otherwise by their bosses and HR.

Here is my experience.

Extremely bad departing experience; manager reading HR script informing, never returned my personal desk items, the laptop box chaos (mixing up wrong people names with wrong addresses), bashing us in LI, classifying us a Retirees (i am sure XOM again is benefitting somehow by this move) and still sending us mail asking to donate to UW. Those dear colleagues never reached out for support, post departure dealing with benefits was bad.

How's it now; Director in a non tech but Fortune 500 making 38% more base plus 25% bonus, RSUs, better healthcare plans, less toxicity than XOM, and a learning for someone who fell for "long term career", and "family" jargons of corporates and someone who cared and took colleagues at to their face value to never trust and believe in that again. Tough but a good and an eye opening lesson.

For those other 2020 martyrs, how was your experience and where are you 5 years down the road?

Make this thread a long and full as possible to give some insight to those who remain at XOM and want to know the true experiences the fallen had. It will also help aspirant newbies to determine whether they should join XOM or not and shut up the kool-aid drinkers because their agenda to paint a rosy picture of XOM leaders and HR handling will be exposed.


Keep learning, even when it feels pointless

I’ve seen plenty of people give up on training because they think it won’t change anything. But every course and new skill has opened doors I never expected. Staying sharp keeps you ready when better roles come around, even if it takes a while. I know most of us are worried about layoffs and don't see a point, but this can only help in the long run.


New Job Experience

For 10 months I’ve been working for a new company, here is a summary of my experience.

Managers are nice, especially in snr exec positions, humble too.

DXC is antiquated - the Tech in the real world is far more up to real world standards

The company I work for has proper salaries for employees, £70k for a PM Lead 4 days a week

Better staff benefits package, similar to perks at work but better discount %

Company paid meals

Manager said casually on a day we were going to be on site that we will go for a meal, I have the company credit card. And it’s not Nando’s!

Company paid Xmas meals (menu ordering)

Company paid fitness classes after work and lunch hour

Company paid proper well being session with people on site

Any training request is approved

Free EV charging on site

Barely any town hall meetings

If someone leaves or retires - the whole company gets an email with a thanks

No expectation to work stupid hours

They are genuinely shocked at my strong work ethic, DXC put you in a constant state of fear, and we have to work damn hard to not show on the redundancy radar, they think I work very hard and super productive.

If you’re under 60, you are wasting your years away here. Apply for jobs, and if you get an opportunity don’t look back.

BAE staff rejecting annual over 3% rise, most people in DXC haven’t had 3% in 10 years. Let that sink in.


Better to leave than wait for a promotion

If you want a promotion here, it’s not about performance, it’s about who you grab lunch with. It didn't take me long to figure out the game is all politics and timing. Plus, the raise is usually so tiny that in the end, it's better to jump ship than wait for some half-hearted bump.


Why Even Post Jobs If They’re Already Filled Internally?

I’ve been working for Nike on and off for about five years now as an ETW. Ironically, with all the recent layoffs, this has actually been the closest thing to career stability I’ve had, especially since the industry I came from is falling apart and jobs are becoming scarcer and more competitive.

Over the years I’ve interviewed for several FTW positions across different departments. Each time I’d make it to the final round, only to see the role go to someone internal, usually another ETW or an FTW already in the department. It’s frustrating because it feels like applying for a job you were never really in the running for.

Lately I’ve noticed a ton of internal promotions popping up, especially in the last couple of weeks, but none of those positions were ever posted publicly. Is it a myth that positions that are essentially promotions have to be open to the public to apply?


Landed a consultancy gig

After more than ten years here, I honestly can’t wait for the door to hit me on the way out. It’s just a two-year engagement, nothing fancy, but I welcome the change. I completely lost perspective at XOM, got su-ked into the “Exxon way” until my career flatlined. I stopped growing years ago, stopped learning anything useful. If you’re as fed up as I was, do yourself a favor: make a change if you can. The feeling of walking away from this place is worth more than money.


Internal Mobility Impossible

I have applied to dozens of jobs for which I am extremely qualified and meet or exceed the desired qualifications. I am consistently turned down and told I’m qualified but “they went with someone else.” Then, I see the exact job req reposted the next day! Are these ghost jobs? I remember when internal candidates were at least granted a conversation with the recruiter! I no longer feel I can achieve my career goals at this company and I’ll be stuck in a dead-end role forever. Anyone else experiencing the same thing? It’s so disheartening.


Internal Promotion or Lateral Promotion Issues in Oracle

From what I understand, there's a significant issue at Oracle regarding internal promotions and lateral career mobility. It appears that while many companies facilitate and even encourage employees to move to different roles or departments, Oracle's policies seem to create considerable obstacles. This situation is particularly challenging for highly skilled professionals, including those with strong technical or leadership abilities, who may find themselves stalled in their career progression due to difficult managers or internal politics. Their most viable path for advancement would be to transition to a new position within the company, but that option is reportedly quite restricted.


Big News

I think my hard work is finally about to pay off. I have a meeting with my manager this afternoon, and I’m pretty sure he’s going to let me know I’ll be promoted to AVP. Just goes to show—when you put your mind to something, you can achieve anything..


CL30 - Grass isn’t greener!

At CL29 I was cruising - solid rankings, comfortable, life was good. Then I moved to CL30 and suddenly felt like a wart hog in the African savanna with every lion staring me down. Turns out, the grass on the other side isn’t greener - it just comes with more predators. Sometimes the “lower” CLs are the sweet spot. Enjoy them, every level is competitive, but to different degrees.

Just wanted to comment on this for all those yearning for the next CL…


Never make yourself too valuable

I learned the hard way that being called “valuable” doesn’t get you anywhere. You can be the best at your job, the one everyone depends on, and still never get promoted. It’s more than frustrating to feel trapped in your current role simply because you’re too essential where you are.