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Relocations choice flow chart - beware

I’m sure everyone has seen the flow chart, no by the end of Oct and you get severance. Yes…if you don’t make the get, you get severed and get the same severance. Get offered a position and decline, you get severed and get the same severance. So it appears there is no down side to saying yes to the relocation and the rejecting the position offer if you really don’t want to relocate. It doesn’t make sense….so here’s my thesis.

Summary - to prevent lawsuits, individual and class action, for forced work place move.

If you say yes to relocation, they will have data that you were fine with relocation (in a class action they’d have all the names because the survey isn’t anonymous). Then when you’re offered a position and you turn it down, you’re doing so for the position not the relocation reasoning, that’s how it would be documented in the official files. But we know the real reason people are going to say yes is to buy time…
This is all about changing the terms of your employment contract. Yes your contract has some verbiage about the company operated across Canada and can relocated you for business purposes. This is too vague and what the company is doing is constructive dismissal which has legal severance limit of 24 months of pay.
It’s easy to get a full description of this and how it works as well as cases with ruling in AB and Canada. Get Google Gemini, put it in deep research mode, prompt it to provide the employee rights when it comes to forced office relocation, and about 15 minutes later there is a very extensive report with cited examples that states it all.

This was the most interesting part in the report out I received.

VI. Corporate Risk Mitigation and Strategic Recommendations
6.1. Best Practices in Drafting and Implementation of Relocation Policies
To minimize exposure to constructive dismissal claims, employers must ensure employment documentation clearly addresses the geographic parameters of the role.
Clarity in Mobility Clauses: All employment contracts, particularly for new hires, must include an unambiguous, expressly written mobility clause. This clause must detail the specific geographic scope within which the employer retains the right to transfer the employee (e.g., "within the current city limits," "within a 30 km radius of the headquarters," or "any company site in North America"). Vague references to "transfers" are insufficient.
Retention of Recall Rights (Post-Pandemic Arrangements): For any existing remote or hybrid arrangement formalized during or after the pandemic, the employer must issue explicit, written addenda clarifying that the arrangement is temporary, revocable, and that the company explicitly retains the unilateral right to mandate a return to the physical office. This documentation is necessary to prevent the remote work arrangement from becoming an "integral term" of the contract through custom and practice, as occurred in the Nickles and Byrd decisions.
6.2. Strategic Use of Notice Periods for Contractual Change
When a necessary relocation is not explicitly permitted by contract, imposing the change unilaterally creates immediate liability. To execute a required change while mitigating CD risk, the employer must offer the employee the change with a period of advance notice equivalent to the common law reasonable notice (severance) the employee would receive upon termination.
If the employee accepts the relocation after the notice period expires, the new terms are formalized. If the employee rejects the relocation change at the end of the notice period, they are deemed terminated, but the employer has fulfilled its notice obligations by providing the time period required by common law. This strategy converts a high-risk unilateral breach into a controlled, noticed termination event.


What happens to RSUs?

They are hard earned for the ones that received them. It’s not much for non execs but enough to care about them.

What happens to RDUs if:

  1. You decline mobility
  2. Accept mobility but not selected for job
  3. Accept mobility, receive bit decline offer for job

Does anyone have insight? Lots of communication out there on many topics but zero on this one. It makes me feel they are going to fu-k us on RSUs based on the silence this far.


These office relocations are layoffs in disguise

Do they really expect people to go work on effing Jurong Island and make that commute when a lot of Singaporeans don’t own a car and live on the other side of the island. It’s not so effing easy to move: They want you to quit. And they’ll conveniently have an Indian in Bangalore to replace us. F this company.


This isn’t all. Consider this

Imperial just spent a ton of money on relocations, moving planners, operations leads, managers, etc to Calgary. They even moved the mine dispatch and control room to Calgary.

It has long been suspected that they have been trying to reduce headcount enough to sell Kearl (only two possible companies).

Do you think they are going to spend money to relocate a big chunk of people twice?

Plus they built QP nit all that long ago but now they are building another building at Strathcona?

I would bet money that once initial headcount reductions are done they are in a position to close on a pending sale of Kearl. Everyone there will be grateful their new employer isn’t moving them to Edmonton. They carry on with the plan and the company is even smaller.

Another domino is falling here. Logically something is missing or this is one of the worst played downsizing events in history.


20% (900ppl) reduction, rest to Edmonton by 2H28

20% headcount reduction (5000 to 4000) by YE27. Affects Upstream, Downstream, Corporate. Employees will found out by January 2026.

Sale of Calgary Quarry Park campus, tentative agreement in place

Relocate Calgary roles in 2028 to sites, predominantly Edmonton refinery.

Includes offshoring > 500 roles to Houston, and global business centers in India, Argentina, Bangkok


Imperial Oil restructuring announcement : Calgary exit, Edmonton hub, JVs & logistics shift

XOM and Imperial Oil decide to divest Calgary-based non-core assets and restructure to stay competitive in a shifting regional and global energy market:

1- Calgary Quarry Park HQ: Sold to Brookfield, monetizing underutilized space. This mirrors Imperial’s real move to donate its former research centre and labs to SAIT, reinforcing a Calgary real estate pullback.

2- Corporate functions: Relocated to Edmonton, aligning headquarters with upstream operations.

3- Employee impact: Calgary staff offered relocation to operational or refinery sites, redeployment packages, or voluntary exits.

4- Cold Lake & Kearl: Continue to run as profitable oil sands assets, with upgrader units ensuring bitumen flows meet refinery specs. Over time, Imperial phases in project-level JVs with partners like Suncor and Cenovus on select expansions — sharing cost, technology, and risk without ceding full control.

5- Logistics & infrastructure (Midstream segment): Throughput and tariff agreements renegotiated with Enbridge and TC Energy, leveraging planned Mainline expansions and ~$2.5B Enbridge system upgrades. Rail partnerships with CN and CPKC improve flexibility to U.S. Gulf and Midwest markets.

6- Downstream operations:
Strathcona refinery (Edmonton) remains a central hub, now with renewable diesel capacity.
Sarnia refinery & chemical complex anchors the eastern market.
Nanticoke refinery complements Sarnia, strengthening Imperial’s Ontario downstream footprint.

Staff relocations tied into these downstream assets keep talent aligned with refining/chemical demand centers.


relocation payback period

Heritage Pioneer here. Pretty tired of this s...t show already. Nothing good here. Time to leave before it gets too damaging to my health.
How long do I have to stay not to repay for relocation? I know it's 12 month, but from which date does the count starts? is it buying of the new house? selling of the previous one? or from the start date at the new office?


Frisco Update

Cost of living is high and housing costs are higher. Compensation paid by TIAA is lower than average and drawing top talent is challenging. Doubling down and spending over $200M to relocate and draining down the surplus to hire 2,000 associates is high risk. Post COVID and virtual work from home, a much, much smarter strategy would be to recruit the best from all over the US instead of limiting yourself to a 30 Mile Zone. But, this what "T" wanted. Eventually AI, Accenture, India and the Phillipines are going to perform a giant su-king sound like Ross Perot and leave a hollow sound in Jerry Jones' $115M building complex.


Apparently Kellyn Kenny is p_shed off about the Biz Insider article

Been going around that she is very upset that her saying that we should ignore the presence reports got out on the interwebs. I guess her freeeloader remark didn’t land well.

Funny, none of these people were all that upset when the company scr_wed with the lives and livelihoods of thousands of people with the RTO layoffs and relocations. Just business. Now they’re aghast when dirty laundry is aired in public.

If you don’t want leaks just treat people with decency and respect. It’s not all that hard


Q: Layoff vs. Relocation Package

Does the relocation package offering follow the same Tuesday after pay week timing like the layoffs, or is it different? Still a 30 day period to decide on relocation package offering accept or decline?

Any other comments from someone having recently gone through this is welcomed.


NVWs

Has there been any discussion on how long this designation will last and if all people outside hubs need to move or just where offices are closed? This puts people with that status in limbo prolonging the decision.


Move to Dallas or quit.

The company and John Stankey have made it clear that the direction is for employees to be colocated in Dallas. It doesn’t make sense for us to operate and keep open hubs or offices across the U.S. for a distributed workforce. Either relocate to Dallas or quit.

And none of this nonsense of I work in a (fake) hub located in LA, St Louis, or Arkansas city. I have specialized skills or deliver exceptional value nonsense. We run a dynamic customer-facing business, tackling large-scale, challenging initiatives. This is why we work in person, together in Dallas, during common working hours. If working in another city is important to you, then do it for some other company.


Its Official, San Ramon will Close Summer 2026

If you are in San Ramon, schedule time with your boss. They should have all the information now. Looks like no flying back and forth will be allowed. Houston is now home and the time in office will be monitored and working remotely from San Ramon will not be allowed. Good luck my friends.


Remote Workers

Understand remote workers are part of Phase 2, but do we think any exceptions will be made for those who where hired into a remote position OR will they be given a choice (maybe with a relocation package) to move closer to an office. I’m asking because I’m hearing others at the company say if exceptions are made, they would rather relocate out of state and ask to work remotely. For the record, I am fine going back 5 days as long as I have a job.


Boston Move Confirmed as of 1 PM EST email

400 Summer street.

Suuuuuuper.

How fu--ing done deaf could he be:

"For many, especially those in Rhode Island, the move brings real changes: I want to acknowledge that some of you will now have longer commutes and more daily complexity for you and your families"

No - ALL of us in RI will you donut.


How RTO is most likely to go down

Not sure but if I had to guess: a RTO mandate requiring relocation or payout would be the way they would go. They are in the business of making money. They don't care about our preferences. Remote workers in multiple states is complicated for businesses. Centralizing employees into two hubs simplifies payroll, labor laws, and union negotiations. (This is only my guess, however and yes it su-ks.)
OP: @ar+1k4ddzsgq

Bumping this up for visibility. Unfortunately, this seems like the most likely scenario when it comes to locations.


Before you move remember

Before you move to a new assignment in Midland remember that if the company fired you there they will not pay to love you to Houston. Nothing better than being fired in the middle of a downturn in west Texas! Your home value will plummet the same time you and everyone is fired. Do not do it bruh! Stay away from Midland at all costs.