#surplus

Fairly new to the company. How do surpluses work and what sort of roles are they targetting

Anyone know how a management employee can volunteer for a surplus package?

I am asked to relocate to one of the hubs with a forced letter. I asked my management for HQ instead and HR seemed to have okayed it. I never got an updated letter from HR confirming HQ as the new location. Now, I am concerned if HR will pull a surplus on me for not reporting to the right location. Not sure what to do.

A lot of rumblings here at the corporate office in Dallas of some mass layoffs hitting San Antonio. Hearing that there is a huge move to a new building out there and AT&T is way over budget. I have no clue what positions are even in San Antonio so be prepared to follow the work if you’re a unionized employee or have your resume updated if you take the surplus package. If it’s for managers which unfortunately get little to no benefits then I would create a Texas Workforce Commission account right now to get ahead of the unemployment benefits that Texas at least has to offer. Mass layoffs are coming June 16th and San Antonio isn’t the only one I’m hearing about but is the one that’s getting talked about the most. Good luck my fellow comrades and fight on!

So what is it. Its time to start thinking about summer time surplus. We all know it happens, next up will be October and move right into Nov. So the question. WHEN !

The team responsible for early account lockouts linked to surplus needs to be added to the layoff list.

Accounts locked this morning, did they accidentally surplus people before the planned date?

Being asked to move. I will be sole-earner. I can move but I am seeing a lot of surpluses right after move. So am wondering if I will be jobless in new location, if there are more surpluses. Did anybody find themselves in this situation?

Org is hemorrhaging top performers who are choosing to leave rather than swim in this toxic cesspool or stay but continue to do the bare minimum. No one wants to work anymore and most don’t even try to hide their distain annd indifference toward management and every day is an exercise in misery. Legg once again injected ominous innuendo and gloom in his latest townhall with a message of AI up or leave or be ready to board a surplus boat and join the breadlines. Rather than profile the type of AI integration needed at an individual contributor level, he sees his work as done after giving us Ask AT&T and GH and a forward kick in the pants to go figure it out before our peers and better than our peers and don’t forget to crush our peers in using it along the way. Too bad it was his knee and not his mindset that got a recent upgrade. I guess we all have to hobble around and suffer as his campaign to crush and demoralize us continues. Retirement can’t come soon enough and I will do the absolute minimum in office for the handful of years I need and only what keeps me under radar on big brother reporting. Tomorrows surplus notification will affect mainly Product and roll them off on 5/5.

Any ideas of what is coming? Anyone heard any more about HUB cities ?

How are medical exceptions to work from home treated in regards to if there were a declared management surplus? There is a group of 25 or so US management employees where 5 or 6 of them are in this category (yes, this is still happening). Some of them feel this protects them due to "medical" but obvious thinking is the people who don't report to an office would be at the top of list when a surplus is declared. Could be legal implications? Thoughts?

Looking for the 2nd qtr Southeast Craft surplus report. Anyone seen it yet ?

Any word on voluntary surplus or move notices coming out q2 or q3

I have heard a few anecdotal rumors. Any truth?

How do you stay committed to learning why you need to do well in your job when you know you could be surplused at any time — and it can all feel pointless?

We're all going to be laid off as soon as the company possibly can do so, if not sooner, because we're all being replaced via automation, off-shoring and outsourcing. I'm just grateful to have the nice termination package per labor contract for when the inevitable day comes when my position is surplussed.

All this talk is getting old.

Leg T surplus is coming but first they are trying to fire you for misuse of company time. They have a usage report for websites and a list of people that are not working. The goal is to fire 20- it will save the company over 2 million dollars.

Can anyone confirm if the following dates are planned surplus announcement dates?

4/22/26
6/19/26
8/19/26
10/2/26
11/4/26

I just saw something that makes me pretty sure these are planned surplus announcement dates.

Theres a ton of union titles that still exist. In past company has just surplussed those titles to bare minimums. Example coin collectors, storekeepers. Besides outside linemen do we really need inside techs? Central Office techs literally change cards and replace fibers. The trouble shooting is done by management and when a device needs replacement a CO tech does the physical work that takes 5 minutes.

I know at least one L3 who was impacted. I wonder which L4s got the ax.

And why the he!! do they call layoffs “surplus” here? George Carlin would have a field day with that sh!t.

Contract expired today 02/13 with no tentative project close call to be surplus and paid out or renewed we will see what do you think.

Talk going around today between Dallas and Atlanta is that it's cheaper to pay off Leg T union employees to get rid of them rather than keep them on the payroll considering high costs, high absenteeism, low productivity and trainability as well as non-collaberative attitudes. It's being agreed on by top leadership that it's much cheaper and far more easy to pay the termination pay per contract, and now that the watermark is no longer an obstacle, the first step will be to declare surplus which means VTP will be offered without a cap. This is expected to reduce the Leg T workforce by at least half. The remaining will be Involuntarily laid off by year end as all Leg T work is automated, outsourced and off-shored.

What’s the latest on surplus for level 3’s? Haven’t heard much lately

Make this make sense.

We lay off people by requiring them to move to a Hub city at their own expense and reapply for their job (or they are declared surplus/laid off). Then, a year later, they are back as a contractor, and RTO doesn’t apply to contractors.

If it is so darn important to have everyone in an office, why aren’t we ALL in the office? Why doesn’t AT&T thrust their own employees, but is happy to let a third party person have access to the same systems and networks remotely full time?

How many are waiting for surplus to get 90 weeks pay?

I’m calling bs on offer for New York. There was just an offer in December for operators, clerks and reps. It didn’t include field techs or cots. Why wouldn’t they just have made an offer in December to include more titles across all faa’s? Doesn’t make sense. I think they will wait for all the kinks to come out from the Frontier acquisition and possibly even approval of a contract extension before they offer any kind of income protection offer.

I got the letter to move or be added to the surplus list, and I have to reply in the next 2 weeks by a certain date. My manager noted that I could let them know before the date and get more information sooner. Any thoughts on if this puts me into the system quicker or speeds up the timeline? I don't yet have another job, but I'm looking. If I stay and find another job, I must wait until the date they say I'm off payroll...so thoughts on what is the best course of action? I'm trying to read vacation and other policies so I'm sure what to do in case I find something else quicker, but highly doubt it will happen.
Management employee with over 24 years, just trying to do the right thing in the right order.

I will not use any identification or identifying names. If you want real info bargaining ask. If known, it will be answered: no grasping. Surpluses etc are unknown. Across the board requires an agreement and none exist. Chances of a surplus? Sure. Across the board? Unlikely

Looks like ASE service installs have come to a crawl thanks to GPON. Has anyone heard rumor of surplus in Engineering? We have very little work. Scary ! 😱

Can anyone confirm if virtual workers in Network org were surplus notified?

What can we expect this week for layoffs? If the big boss is watching please surplus me ! I can’t say who I am on here because of my colleagues. But being ATT you should be able to figure it out.

Let’s say you want to be surplused… is there a way to make it happen without waiting?

1) If you say NO. Will submit before March 4.

They will hold you until 6mos just like what they did to the CSO folks. Basically, they do nothing getting paid. Wait until you get released so you can get the severance and can file unemployment to the state as you are marked being surplussed.

If you accepted a new job in between 6mos. That is consider a resignation.

2) if you say YES and no plan to drive on the new location - you will get terminated. State unemployment will not be an option.

Yes, we have been told anyone and everyone not currently working at an approved KNL will get their letter next week. Under 50 miles you will be expected to report to your new location the 1st week of March. Greater than 50 miles you have 60 days to say yes or no. If you say yes, you have till March 2027 to report. If you say no, you go to the surplus list and expect to be layed off by June 2026.
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Putting this up for visibility.

I will hopefully be surplussed on December 15th and thus will be leaving the company with 104 weeks pay. Afterwards I'll collect unemployment for as long as I can. Then I'll start taking my legacy pension, my 401k distributions and my social security. Meanwhile I will continue doing the least amount of work i can get away with without getting fired all while lmfao.