#uncertainty

so who is being cut? is it reps, online channels, managers, assistant managers? under performing stores/reps? it’s all confusing

With all these layoffs happening tomorrow and early next year. Do we still expect for a strike to happen out in the east coast or will the new CEO settle ?

Hard to believe it’s this tight lipped. It’s like we’re a boat heading to sea. On the horizon we see the big storm bubbling and everyone on the boat is just paddling straight in. Get ready for the waves I guess. Hopefully we actually learn something tomorrow. I find it difficult to believe there’s not one member of leadership that knows what’s going on.

Anyone know what’s going on with CMO?

Has anyone heard anything about the CISO org?

Has anyone heard about VCG Operations? Any talks of who is being riffed or any impacts to that department? Have they been notified? Are they being restructured?

As for me, I can’t see the silver lining in any outcome. I used to think I’d be relieved to be let go with a bit of money, but now I’m just anxious about what happens next if I am laid off.

Old Webroot office in Broomfield has been sold.

Not sure what will happen to staff in the office, maybe RIF or be made virtual

This person was kind enough to let me know even though they weren’t supposed to. But seems like this forum hit on the headed. Praying for you all. I still don’t know what it means for me

Got a webex invite from my manager for tomorrow 10 am.

Like Amazon are H1B's targeted in here. Any info on this.
If yes it would badly impact us on H1B

Looking for anything on the fast team. The group has lost a few in the past year with vsp and folks moving to sp but seems to be working more and more sites even doing remote site integration.

How is the situation in Germany so far?

While we all wait for our fate, I wanted to share a story to help keep things in a little perspective.

This Taoist and Zen Buddhism "Maybe" story illustrates the principle that it is impossible to judge whether an event is truly good or bad fortune because one never knows its future consequences.

The Story of a Farmer:

Once upon a time, there was an old farmer in a small village.

The horse runs away:
One day, the farmer's only horse ran away. The neighbors came to offer their sympathy for his "terrible bad luck." The farmer calmly replied, "Maybe".

The horse returns with wild horses:
The next day, the horse returned, bringing with it three (or seven) wild horses. The neighbors exclaimed, "What wonderful luck!" The farmer again said, "Maybe".

The son breaks his leg:
The following day, the farmer's son tried to ride and tame one of the wild horses, was thrown off, and broke his leg. The neighbors offered their condolences for this "misfortune." The farmer replied, "Maybe".

The son avoids conscription:
A week later, soldiers came to the village to conscript all able-bodied young men for the army. Seeing the farmer's son had a broken leg, they passed him by. The neighbors said, "What good luck that he was spared!" The farmer simply replied, "Maybe".

The Moral of the Story
The parable teaches that events in life unfold in complex, interconnected ways, and what seems like a setback may turn into a blessing, and vice versa. The moral is to embrace uncertainty, practice detachment and equanimity, and avoid rushing to label events as definitively "good" or "bad"

A few months ago, we didn't know this person named 'Dan', and a few years later, he wouldn't matter as much, regardless of the outcome on 11/20. This is a phase, and it will pass eventually.

Has anyone heard what will happen to the Payroll group?

Does anyone know how long these contractors are here to stay?

So the day has come and gone. And I’m sure the goal post will also be moved. Everyone’s wear Monday morning. The senior directors will know. Then commenters I know it’s in the afternoon or close of business. Well, the time is coming to pass. Tomorrow apparently we were supposed to see mass resignation emails. I’m sure that goal plus will also be moved. Can any senior director confirm if they’ve gotten notice?

Everything is a guessing game at this point.

Customer service and store channels to get a complete overhaul with new leaders and possibly a lot less of them to flatten our business?

Pull back of vendor customer service? By how much?

Work visas to be cancelled?

200 stores will be going to indirect with less support. More to follow?

Value organization to be drastically trimmed and a single brand for all prepay? Total to be sold off?

VSP offered for anyone who wants it?

We will all know soon. Until then. Do your job well. Get your end of year performance documents ready. Stay focused.

I don’t know about yall, but the not knowing is actually worse than the rif. Just let me know what I need to do already.

Following today's announcement, I am seeking clarification regarding Thursday's schedule. I observed that two individuals, including myself, are not scheduled for a 15-minute meeting, while three colleagues and my Associate Director are scheduled for such a meeting around 1:00 p.m., and another meeting at 3:45 p.m. Has there been any communication regarding the purpose of these two meetings, or do they signify a potential change in my employment status? I would appreciate any insights from an Associate Director or Senior Director. Thank you in advance.

Masters of suspense. Who cares that we’re all twisting ourselves into knots over here.

People are wild guessing and sending themselves into apoplexy. Wait it out. Get drunk if you need to. But don't invent scenarios in your head that you don't know will happen. Don't do that to yourselves.

Anyone being told to stay home and not report to the office ?

hold on, it's going to get rough

It’s dead silent. Just liars and liars on this forum

Were any other locations told to WFH this week?

I was expecting to start hearing something by now, leaders or even people on here posting some news. It doesn’t seem like anything is being announced today. I thought down to band 6 was happening today?

That's our reality now, and I admit, I'm not handling it all that well.

I've heard from a few people that there's no need to worry about layoffs until next year. The higher-ups don't want to upset people too close to the holidays. Is this true or is it just wishful thinking?

But that’s just my impression. Not that it makes any real difference. Especially not for the people who just lost their jobs, and not for those of us left behind. I imagine the bleeding will continue.

Once it's all over, I just want to see if any of them were right. I highly doubt it, but we'll see.

So hour by hour every publication is using the '15 to 20k layoffs' headlines to get to whatever sl--t they have, and all of the quotes and bullets are the same for all of the articles. And VZ officially has no comment. And this site and Reddit and everywhere else threads their hearts out with rumor/speculation/furvor. And VZ, the communications company with the new 'Tell it like it is' CEO, and a credo of integrity and respect, just allows rumor, speculation, and uncertainty take a deep soak while November 20 gets closer on the calendar. This isn't some scramble with no direction; Big Brother is controlling the communication even if it LOOKS chaotic. Chaos is a strategy.

There has been talk about even more cuts coming early next year, but nobody seems to know if it is real. People keep trading bits of speculation and it puts everyone on edge. I am keeping my head down and waiting to see what leadership says. It is tough concentrating on work with that hanging over us.

I haven’t heard anything myself, but I’d really like to know if next week is going to be safe for all of us. I honestly just need a breather.

One way or another. This wait has been unbearable.