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MN Email

MN is such a great guy who cares so much about us all! His genuine concern for us all is absolutely heartwarming. I just want to say to MN that we all care for him as much as he cares for us and we want to send the same message to him that he send to us every day:

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Very good new Business Insider follow up piece on Stankey’’s rant

This is long but details how AT&T used to be a leader in taking care of employees and now it is a leader in treating them as disposable “assets”.

Worth a read

https://www.businessinsider.com/workplace-loyalty-corporate-america-dysfunction-employers-employees-att-jobs-2025-9


Remember how Agile was supposed to save us?

As the dust settles on this cluster fu-k of a reorg, I can’t help but think back to Agile. Remember when that was going to save everything? And how performative people proclaimed its benefits, even if it was just a “mindset”? And yet - when was the last time anyone even mentioned it.

And now, the same LT that forced that down our throat with the delusional thinking of how it would save us, are trying proclaiming ENGINE as the next savior. The emperor has no clothes kids. Time to let them know.


Edward Jones Midwestern Values?

Lately I have been seeing ads talking about Edward Jones' midwestern values and St. Louis roots. This may have been true for a century. Since Penny took over as managing partner she has laid off St. Louisans in the home office and sent their positions overseas to India. Why does Penny not publicly advertise this? Instead the narrative is about Americana and American values. I guess when Penny promotes Edward Jones' midwestern values she is talking about our home based associates in Bhopal, India (you read that right, India, not Indiana, midwestern India). I wonder our American clients would feel if they knew their financial and personal information was being accessed by people in a third world country. Penny, just tell the truth. The whole truth. Penny, you took over a sleek yacht and in a few short years have turned it into the SS Minnow.


Enterprise Reimagined First Layoffs in Firm History?

Penny and team are touting Enterprise Reimagined as the first time in firm history EJ has had layoffs. Penny has said August 2025 was the first time there has been layoffs at EJ. I know for a fact that is a bold face lie. As early as 2023 some of my fellow associates who were laid off were training their Indian replacements with the fear of severance withholding held over their heads. We were told they were not able to tell us who was being laid off. When we saw someone in the office and did not see them the following week we would know who it was that got laid off. Penny team are just bold faced liars with no integrity and a very low moral compass.


Trimester 2 Business Update

Did anyone else find it odd that Penny and team held the trimester 2 business update at a branch conference in Scottsdale, AZ? I have been at EJ for over a decade and I cannot recall a trimester business update not originating from the auditorium at the south campus in St. Louis. Is it just by coincidence that the first trimester business update after the first public layoffs in 103 years by the firm is not held in the same room as home office associates who have had their fellow associates laid off and perhaps demoted themselves? I do not think this qualifies as holding yourself "accountable". If you are going to radically alter people's lives you should be woman enough to face them, look them in the eye, and explain why you have done it and where you are taking the firm into the future. Penny and team are just pure cowards.


Hypocrisy At Its Finest

When Penny was named managing partner she spent like a drunken sailor on leave. Now she admits her mistake and says she is holding herself accountable. How is holding yourself accountable by laying people off and demoting people while she stays and receives compensation increases to bring total compensation to over $29 million per year? If she were to hold herself accountable she would step down and let a new managing partner fix the problems she has created. Penny is making innocent people who are really good at their jobs take the fall for her failures. If anyone close to the work had failed as miserably as Penny at her job they would have been fired on the spot. Penny has been an absolute disaster for this firm.


Fresh blood

TU has filled almost every senior role recently with an external hire. The clear message being sent that the people who were around for the IPO and drove the share price into the 80's are incompetent. Yet the share price has languished in the 80's since Chris took the helm 5 years ago. So I'm wondering why "fresh blood" applies to everybody but him? I sincerely hope this upcoming GLM is his last.


Snouts in the trough

ANZA has deleted many working staff via redundancy due to the excuse that there is no work forecast.

Will any of the leadership team or line managers be removed ?
If there is no work, why are account managers and sales executives needed ?

Should ANZA stop sending executives to junkets such as Mobile World Congress and Telecommunications Industry Excellence Awards ?


Nike in a nutshell

For years Nike has been in the habit of re-orging to a new formation, then clamping down on hiring so the vision is never fully resourced or executed. When the results don’t meet expectations, they respond with another re-org, leaving teams in a constant spin cycle of change. It’s hard to bring your best innovative thinking when you’re just trying to figure out WTF is going on.

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Poor leadership

At Dell Technologies, we lack good leadership. Instead of transparency, we see random layoffs, no coherent strategy, and no confidence instilled in employees or shareholders. Leadership is not about hiding behind tough decisions.. it’s about owning them, communicating them, and guiding people through them.

The difference between courage and cowardice is clarity.


Grow Up!

Yes, last week su-ked. And like you, I’m nervous about what’s to come. But let’s not kid ourselves or rewrite history. When the pandemic hit, this company didn’t toss us aside while the economy melted down. We kept our jobs. Some of us even got cash bonuses for basically existing. The same leadership you’re busy demonizing today signed off on that. Funny how that part gets left out.

Now it’s fashionable to cry about the CEO’s salary. Really? You likely knew this was a multi-billion-dollar health insurer with a millionaire CEO at the helm when you accepted your job offer - or when you CHOSE to keep working here week after week. Just like it doesn’t stop you from filling your cart with garbage on Amazon, or ordering overpriced coffee from Starbucks - who, by the way, laid off 900 people last week. Yet, I doubt anyone is forfeiting their Starbucks Rewards in protest. Outrage when it’s convenient isn’t principle, it’s hypocrisy. If empty outrage paid the bills, many in this forum would also be millionaires by now.

And here’s the part nobody likes to admit: nobody is chained to a desk here. The front doors aren’t locked. The exit signs glow for a reason. If this company or corporate America offends your conscience so badly, go build your own empire. Put your brilliance to work. But don’t pretend that bi--hing and moaning are unique skillsets. They aren’t. Babies are born crying. Sadly, some toddlers never grow out of it – then get jobs at this company.

The reality is simple. This company has tens of thousands of employees. Only a handful were let go, it seems. If every single chronic complainer in this forum quit tomorrow, the company would replace them and keep moving. No strategy would collapse. No customer would notice. The machine doesn’t need you (or me) - or anything you have to offer - to keep turning. You are not special. Whining here for validation from other whiny anonymous nonspecials is just sad. And if that feels harsh, it’s because deep down, you already know it’s true.

My heart goes out to anyone whose job was impacted and anyone still worrying - especially those who looked here for answers only to wade through the rantings of people who shouldn’t be part of this workforce, or any other. Good luck!


A Thoughtful Approach to Workforce Reductions

When organizations face the difficult decision of reducing headcount, it’s important to balance business needs with employee well-being. Instead of removing people randomly, one approach could be to create a “wishlist” where employees can voluntarily express interest in leaving.

This method allows:
• Employees who are ready for their next chapter to exit with dignity.
• Critical roles and talent to be retained for business continuity.
• The process to feel more transparent and humane, reducing uncertainty and anxiety.

Such an approach acknowledges that some team members may already be considering new opportunities, while others are deeply committed to staying. By aligning both organizational and individual needs, Dell can manage necessary changes with empathy and fairness.


Steve's email on 9/16 and upcoming layoffs

Honestly, I don’t know what to make of Wayfair right now. The pay is solid and better than what I’d find elsewhere, but it feels like layoffs are always around the corner. It’s like every few months people are left wondering if they should stick it out or leave before they’re next. For those of us in North America, what kind of roles are most at risk? Is there actually a stable future here, or is it just about staying for the paycheck and dealing with the uncertainty?

And that email from Steve on September 16th… what was that? The message just didn’t sit right — some parts sounded like cuts, other parts like spending more money, and none of it made sense. Feels like leadership is saying one thing to us but doing another behind the scenes. Curious if anyone else feels the same or has more insight into where things are really headed.


Distrust

Its clear to see with how easy people are jumping to conclusions just how broken this company is. Constantly having to wonder will you be next. Dreading announcements, dreading town halls - its a slow, exhausting and emotional mental game. This company has lost the ability all together to value employees, make them feel appreciated for their contributions. There is no trust. Understand a corporation doesnt owe anyone loyalty but a hint of transparency would be nice. Instead of a message that promotes a long, fulfilling career that will provide you growth opportunity and purpose. As if the fact that the constant eroding of personnel doesnt impact us left both professionally and personally. We shoulder more work while inherting more risk our time will soon be up.

I'd say "hopefully HR is taking note"; except HR doesnt give a s#it about Canadian workers or Imperial Oil.

Sad what this company has become.


Optum is losing talent at accelerated rate

Critical resources with 10 to 25 years with the company have either left, found new jobs, or they're already interviewing. They keep hamstringing our engineers/innovators with increasing loads of security requirements and bridling everyone with additional jobs. Engineering teams have lost critical mass and it's all arranging deck chairs on the Titanic now. No one to blame but leadership.
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This seems to have been the corporate trend in the US for a couple of years now. I don’t even know where to take the skills and experience I’ve built. Something is deeply wrong with a system that abandons human achievement, expertise, and accumulated knowledge so casually.


Let’s Be Real

I truly think Headquarters should be moved to Richardson. As long as HQ is in Chicago, the “Chicago Way of Doing Things” will continue to prevail over our company culture. Talking a good game, but not really looking out for our members… giving in to political pressure over doing what’s right…. Looking good is more important than being good…

Our company has been in a downward spiral ever since PHH said we were ‘in it to win it’ in regards to the healthcare exchange after the Affordable Healthcare Act was passed. I appreciated her vision and that of Paula after her, but HCSC did not move quickly enough to modernize our systems, too many decision makers stifled and snuffed out true innovation. Projects and great ideas get stalled in committee to this day. We are wanting to grow grow grow, but we aren’t insightful enough to truly be ready for the growth. HCSC employees do our best but we can’t work round the clock, 365 days a year. Dedication cannot overcome lack of true leadership from the top.

I’m proud of every employee that has stayed the course. Our members deserve our best, and I see if from my fellow employees and our direct management every day.


Confused

I admit I'm old and not familiar with a lot of"slang" so I looked up 10 toes... here's what I found "slang for being fully loyal, and grounded in a belief, cause, or person". I could have sworn the message from Stinkeye was he didn't want loyalty (either given or expected) he wanted commitment? Am I missing something 😕


Slow service rollout for re:Invent?

Why is Matt Garmin complaining ??? Slow rollouts were self-inflicted !!

With 27000 layoffs, ridiculous RTO commutes, massive attrition, obviously rollouts will be slower. Vibe coding/Kiro just adds to the problem - having to fix all of the broken that MCP Servers introduces. Why not just hire talented remote devs, comp them well like NVIDIA? Problem solved!

And his release of Q was also a disaster at re:Invent. What's the point of rushing releases ??


What the he-l just happened

Anyone else reflecting on this week wondering what the he-l just happened? A typical week became a week of doom and gloom. It became hard to focus, the rumor mill roaring along with a sorry excuse of response by our CEO. In all my years at HCSC, I’ve never felt more betrayed by the company. No clear vision.. no clear communication… where’s the email that says what happens next? Are we really just going to feel like we’re in limbo until someone explains what the plan forward is? This is exhausting… I’m starting to think a layoff wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world


WIM Compliance Town Hall 9/25

Way to be tone deaf. Let’s discuss the idea of going on vacation to scuba dive, and then have two other executives join in, expressing their desire to dive or visit the exotic location mentioned. Do they think we can all afford not just the airfare but also the opportunity to scuba dive whenever we wish? Let’s pose more questions to highlight the class disparity between the WIM executives and us, the lower peon workers.
I am very pleased that my name was featured in the anniversary presentation. It genuinely makes me feel appreciated. Perhaps now I can attempt snorkeling in one of the Great Lakes.
Additionally, MM was hired solely because her last name resembles the same nationality as CT. She is not the brightest bulb, lots of corporate jargon and double speak.


The Lie

Is anyone else exhausted by this charade?
How long does management think we’ll swallow the spin?
How long can they hide behind slogans, “initiatives,” and empty town halls before admitting what everyone already knows?

There is no grand plan.
There never was.

The lie runs through the veins of this place — not a glitch, but the system itself.
The lie is we-ponized: a tool to keep people quiet, compliant, expendable.
The lie isn’t covering cracks anymore — it is the foundation, and it’s already rotting through.

What we’re left with is a company lurching from crisis to crisis, too disorganized to lead, too arrogant to listen, and too malicious to care about the people keeping the lights on.

And the worst part?
They think we’ll keep buying it.


Truist wealth

How does this help us? Good people let go! Can’t get an account open in a week so let’s move the problem over here. I don’t think that will help. It’s all a mess. I think this makes it worse. Upper management doing something to justify their jobs and take big bonuses while ki-ling shareholder value. This place is great.


No Confidence Vote

Wanted to bring up something that has been bothering me for quite some time, and I believe it's important for us to have some meaningful discussion about it with those charged with the responsibility. Have you noticed that none of the senior leadership team ever formally addresses any of the serious concerns raised on this forum, Peakon surveys, or other feedback channels? Significant, non-trivial concerns such as offshoring plans, aggressive US layoff plans, loss of experienced workers, hiring freezes, shifting workload concerns, RTO policies, office closure plans, growth hubs vs. non-growth hubs, separations vs. severance plans and decisions, work-from-home status, and quality of life concerns are all left unanswered.

All the management rhetoric we've been programmed to embody in our core pillars and principles now feels empty and hollow. It feels quite odd and frankly, very disheartening, that these significant issues are continuously brought up by employees either directly or through forums like this but never receive any formal acknowledgment or response from senior leadership. Why is that? How is it ever acceptable to continue to ignore these employee concerns? Where does SH and the People Team stand?

It stands to reason that it is crucial for this leadership team to be transparent and responsive to the concerns of their employees. Addressing these issues head-on would not only provide clarity but also help in building trust and improving the overall morale within the organization. Given the widespread fear, uncertainty, and doubt that continues to spread, is there any reason we should be confident in our future success or direction with this firm? If we can't answer this question with absolute certainty and conviction, then clearly a restart is the only option.


Anyone else FED UP with the belittling of Xerox?

Anyone else fed up with Lexmark belittling everything that Xerox has ever done, despite not exactly being a high performing company themselves. Every.single.meeting it is all about Lexmark/ they are great / we will do it the Lexmark way / Xerox you don’t know anything …. Where are the XErox SLT supporting “their staff” and ensuring there is some balance in the integration conversations. They have turned coats quicker than the blink of an eye. No moral compass. Faceless, feckless and weak.