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I Used to Love My Job. Then Came 5-Day RTO.

In 2024, when we were hybrid, I used to be genuinely happy going to work. I was energized, motivated, and excited to contribute to the largest telecommunications company in the United States. But after nearly a year and a half of the five-day return-to-office mandate, I feel completely drained.

Every day is a battle — fighting traffic, searching for parking, and then scrambling to find a desk. To make it worse, people schedule meetings during my commute, which makes no sense.

Back in 2024, I felt bright, energetic, and enthusiastic about the work. Now I feel like Squidward, doing the bare minimum just to get through the day. Whenever I am asked to go above and beyond or deal with some ridiculous request, my response is basically that I am commuting or that I will get to it once I can actually find a desk. The whole thing feels like a joke.

To make matters worse, everyone on my immediate team and in my department seems endlessly enthusiastic about chasing more wireless and fiber gross adds. Maybe some of that excitement is real, but a lot of it feels rehearsed. I look around and see people acting energized and engaged, and it is hard not to wonder whether they actually feel that way or are just playing the part. Honestly, the only place I ever see people expressing what this experience really feels like is on this site. In person, people seem scared to say it out loud. It often leaves me feeling like I am the only one being honest about how exhausting and demoralizing all of this has become, especially because I am overshadowed by so many coworkers who seem enthusiastic about their jobs and about taking AT&T to the stars.


What’s the Vibe? Big Layoff Announcement Coming?

Trying to catch the vibe and see through the fluff here. I see a meeting with potential future board member (JG) on the calendar, an earnings call, an all employee meeting, and then a wider team meeting following that.

Personally, I was going to leave the company in short order, but this feels like re-org and layoff damage control on my calendar.

What’s the temperature in the room where you are? I’m remote and have not been plugged into the roomer mill in years. Any concrete info?


Oracle Cuts Remote Jobs in Seattle Area

Oracle initiated layoffs impacting remote workers in the Seattle area. A total of 491 employees in Washington state operations are affected. The company announced these job cuts on April 10, 2026. Affected employees will see their jobs end on June 1. Oracle cited its AI infrastructure and cloud strategy as factors.

Seattle, Washington

https://nationaltoday.com/us/wa/seattle/news/2026/04/10/oracle-layoffs-hit-remote-workers-in-seattle/


Big layoff coming in may

Ford management is planning big layoff in Ottawa soon,
Most of ce xxxx work and new platform work are moving to lang island. All remote and disgruntled employee be prepared for another big layoff. Don’t feel disheartened if you are in the list. It’s all about money and cutting cost. Lot of boomers may get impacted soon.


Absoulte sh-tshow

Just a rant!!

Earlier, 11 days used to do it but now 61% is 14 days. Makes no sense. My entire team is remote, I was hired remote but forcefully transitioned me to an office. I come here just to attend meetings and work alone with no in office interaction all while bearing additional cost of gas and parking


Just make it 5 days

At this point I would just rather they say in office 5 days, remove all “tracking” and leave us alone! (That will never happen I know). But pre-COVID when all we knew was in office, and flex to be at home as needed or we worked 4 hours office and the rest at home but because they gave us the autonomy, we often gave more than they asked. I want those days back.


Remote Work Concerns

Hybrid employees struggle a lot—commuting 30 miles, taking early morning meetings, working late hours. Meanwhile, remote employees don’t face the same challenges—no commuting, no badge scans, fewer constraints. Honestly, remote employees should be considered first if workforce reductions are needed.


Is ESG management going against company policy?

A lot of office workers in India and the U.S. have been laid off recently.

But somehow there are still plenty of remote workers sitting in Dublin, Ireland. Why is ESG management holding onto them? What kind of justification is being made for keeping these roles?

From what I can see, most of them don’t bring anything special to the table. I’m not seeing strong skills in areas like reverse engineering or development. Honestly, it feels like teams in India or the U.S. could take over that work and do it better.

So what’s really going on here? Is ESG management going against company policy? Or do these people have connections with upper management? A lot of them seem to be legacy folks from the old Symantec days.


Oil Price, European Rationing, and WFH

Does anyone else think with the price of oil being pegged above $100 a barrel for the foreseeable future, ongoing bo----g campaigns of oil infrastructure, and Europe already rationing oil / encouraging as little travel as possible that we might see a softening on the four day RTO?

Wasting gas to drive into the office to call into a remote meeting doesn't make any sense.


A load of Kwap

Did anyone else notice in the Kwapcast how they're already starting to soften the language about RTO?

It was indicated that the reason they didn't go for a 3 day RTO is because they felt like they'd only be able to get people to do 1 and it was suggested that by going for a 5 day RTO, they'll be able to get people to do 3.

Hold the line, ladies and gentlemen. I think Bill D's nonsense will blow over.


WARN does not apply to Remote workers!

I see so much confusion about WARN notice on this board:

The WARN Act applies to employers with over 100 full-time employees who are planning a mass layoff at a single site of employment.

So if you are (or were) WFH, WARN does not apply to you. (unless you have a hundred coworkers as roommates in your house)


Virtual status

is it safe to assume this status remains for at least next 2 years until Plano campus is built? I really need to get my family out of rental situation and I was curious if anybody is doing the same this year in a non hub location. If not what else are you doing with your current homes?


Live within 50 mile radius of Talent Hub requirement

Regarding the Humana RTO policy, what is the... Live within 50 mile radius of Talent Hub requirement?

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The Humana Return to Office (RTO) policy, which has evolved significantly through 2025 and into 2026, utilizes a 50-mile radius as the standard threshold for determining whether an associate is required to work in person at a "Talent Hub" or corporate office.

How the 50-Mile Requirement Works

The core of the requirement is based on your primary residence in relation to a designated Humana office or hub.

Proximity Rule

If you live within a 50-mile radius of a Humana Talent Hub or corporate office, you are typically classified as a hybrid or office-based employee. This means you are expected to report to that physical location for a set number of days per week (or month), depending on your specific department's guidance.

Talent Hub Locations

Humana has identified specific cities as Talent Hubs to centralize collaboration.

Key hubs include:  

Atlanta, GA

Louisville, KY (Corporate HQ)  

Washington, D.C.

Additional Hubs: Austin, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Fort Lauderdale, and New York City.

Remote Eligibility

Generally, associates living outside the 50-mile radius of these locations are eligible to remain in a fully remote status. However, even remote associates may be required to travel to a hub for quarterly meetings or specific team "co-location" events.  

Impact on Associates

The enforcement of this radius is part of Humana's broader strategy to consolidate its real estate footprint while increasing in-person collaboration.

Commuting Responsibility

If you are within the 50-mile zone, the commute is considered "normal home-to-work travel," meaning travel costs are generally not reimbursed by the company.

Exceptions

Exceptions are typically handled on a case-by-case basis and usually require high-level leadership approval. These are often reserved for specific roles that have been designated as "permanently remote" regardless of location, or for documented medical accommodations.  

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Humana’s "Talent Hub" strategy represents a shift from the traditional "sea of cubicles" to a "destination office" model. As of 2026, the company has significantly consolidated its real estate (notably exiting the iconic Michael Graves-designed Humana Tower in Louisville) to focus on smaller, high-tech, high-amenity spaces.

  1. Design & Layout

The "Neighborhood" Approach

Humana has moved away from assigned seating in favor of Activity-Based Working (ABW). The layout of a typical Hub is divided into "Neighborhoods" tailored to specific needs:

Collaborative "We" Spaces

These make up the heart of the Hub. They include "Project Zones" with mobile furniture that teams can reconfigure on the fly, and "Huddle Rooms" equipped with 360-degree cameras and digital whiteboards for seamless hybrid meetings.

Quiet "Me" Spaces

For focused tasks, Hubs feature "Quiet Cars" (inspired by Amtrak). These areas have higher acoustic panels, carrels, and a strict "no-talking" rule to mimic the productivity of a home office.

Residential Aesthetic

The design uses a "hospitality-first" palette—natural wood, soft lighting, and ergonomic furniture that feels more like a living room or a boutique hotel than a sterile clinic.

The "Connected Café"

A central social anchor in each Hub, serving as a semi-public space for informal networking, coffee breaks, and "touchdown" work between meetings.

  1. Usability & Technology

The usability of these spaces is governed by what Humana calls a "Phygital" experience—merging physical space with digital tools:

Intelligent Booking

Employees use an app to reserve desks or lockers. Over time, AI learns your preferences (e.g., "Mark prefers a standing desk near a window") and suggests spots when you book.

Smart Building Integration

In 2026, many Hubs utilize AI-powered lighting and HVAC systems that adjust in real-time based on occupancy and natural light levels to improve comfort and reduce energy waste.

Concierge Service

Moving away from traditional security-desk entrances, Hubs now feature a "Community Host" or concierge to help associates navigate the tech, find their teams, or troubleshoot equipment.

  1. Employee Occupancy & Utilization

Humana’s occupancy strategy is built on the reality that the office is no longer the "default" location for daily tasks.

Daily Occupancy Rates

As of 2025–2026, daily building utilization typically hovers around 25% to 30% of the total local workforce. The offices are designed for "peak" days (usually Tuesdays through Thursdays) rather than 100% capacity.

Intentional Presence

The goal isn't "headcount" but "interaction." Humana measures success by "Experience-Based Metrics"—tracking how often collaboration zones are used and whether employees feel a sense of belonging, rather than just badge-swipe data.

Louisville Consolidation

The most dramatic shift in occupancy occurred in Louisville, where Humana moved its remaining in-office staff into the Waterside and Clocktower buildings, opting to renovate these spaces for $20 million rather than maintain the oversized and aging 27-story Tower.

Living just outside that 50-mile radius—these Hubs are designed to be the place you go for high-value team events rather than a place you'd expect to sit and answer emails all day.

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While Humana does not publicly disclose a single "total" price tag for the entire Talent Hub initiative, we can estimate the investment based on their 2024–2026 real estate filings and renovation permits.

Humana is currently executing a multi-year "Value Creation" strategy aimed at saving approximately $1 billion in annual administrative costs, part of which involves moving out of high-cost legacy real estate and into modernized, efficient Hubs.

  1. Renovation & Build-Out Costs

The average investment to transform a standard office into a "Talent Hub" involves high-end technology integration and "hospitality-style" interior design.

Flagship Renovation (Louisville)

Humana recently filed permits for a $20.1 million renovation of the 10th through 12th floors of the Waterside Building (roughly 150,000 square feet). This averages out to approximately $134 per square foot for the interior fit-out alone.

Satellite Hub Estimates

For smaller Talent Hubs, like the Atlanta hub, typical Class A office "spec-to-hub" conversions in the current market range from $100 to $150 per square foot.

Total Portfolio Spend

Given the consolidation of dozens of offices into approximately 10–12 major Hubs, the total capital expenditure (CapEx) for the physical transformation of these spaces is estimated between $150 million and $250 million nationwide.

  1. Technology & "Phygital" Infrastructure

A significant portion of the expenditure is "invisible"—invested in the digital layer that makes the Hubs usable:

Hybrid Meeting Tech

Equipping "Huddle Rooms" with 360-degree cameras (like Logitech Sight or Owl systems) and integrated scheduling panels costs roughly $15,000 to $25,000 per room.

AI & Proprietary Apps

Developing and maintaining the custom desk-booking and "Experience" apps used by employees represents a multi-million dollar ongoing operational expenditure (OpEx).

  1. Real Estate Savings (The "Off-Set")

It is important to view these expenditures as part of a cost-reduction play.

The Humana Tower Exit

By exiting its 27-story namesake tower in Louisville, Humana avoided massive maintenance and utility costs. That building is currently being redeveloped by third-party developers into a hotel in a project valued at $600–$700 million—costs that Humana is no longer responsible for.

Occupancy Reduction: Because the Hubs are designed for roughly 30% daily occupancy, Humana has been able to reduce its total square footage by an estimated 40% to 50% since 2023, leading to massive savings on leases and property taxes.

The Bottom Line

Humana is spending hundreds of millions upfront to modernize these spaces, but they expect to recoup that investment within 3–5 years through reduced lease obligations and lower utility/maintenance costs across their smaller, smarter footprint.

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RTO - New Requirements. Is it True?

6-Hour Minimum Requirement for In-Office Time
Effective immediately (although April 1 is a start date)
Reporting will look for 8 hours but minimum is 6 hours
No exceptions (unless people are out of office for sick time, vacation, approved leave, etc.)
You can’t extend the hours throughout the week; it must be a minimum of 3 days/week, 6 hours/day
Absolutely no gaming the system — anyone caught doing this will be terminated immediately
New Info
No announcement will be made
Applies to every employee even if their management hasn’t told them about it
3 full days/week does mean 12 days/month, although 11 still meets the 90%+ requirement
Reports have already been sent to level 4 leaders for where things stand today
Minimum of 6+ hours in office does not mean people only have to work 6 hours/day


Telecommuters

Anyone else have people in their office pack stuff up, and told they’re being moved to telecommuter status?

I am in the Richardson office and a large number of people were abruptly told we’re moving to telecommuter. I’m happy, but don’t understand the urgency or the decision process.