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So what's your response going to be?

Say you get told in a few hours that you're being rif'd. What are you going to say in response to your boss? I know there's no options, just wondering how I'll take it if it happens and what to say in return, other than just sitting there d-mbfounded after giving them 18 years of my life.


Boeing work culture is toxic

Years of layoffs have made a very toxic work culture. People do not want to help their coworkers because they are afraid they might be the next person looking for a job.

You cannot have a work culture where you lay off the most experienced people because they make more and expect those same people to mentor younger employees. Instead, you have created a culture where no one wants to help anyone.


REPOST: Twas The Night Before RIFmas

Twas the night before RIF-mas, and all through the store, not a salesman was selling, not one through the door. The severance was printed by HR with care, in hopes that the shareholders soon would be there.
The "V-Team" was nestled all stressed in their beds, while visions of metrics danced in their heads; And supervisors anxious, and I in my cap, had just settled down for a restless, short nap,
When out on the network, there rose such a clatter, I sprang from my laptop to see what was the matter. Away to my Outlook I flew like a flash, to see who was cut to save corporate cash.
The glow of the monitor on the newly fallen snow gave a lustre of panic to objects below. When, what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a mass email sent at the end of the year,
With a little old driver, so lively and grand, I knew in a moment 'twas the boss of the Brand. More rapid than 5G his notices came, And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name:
"Now, Retail! Now, Network! Now, Admin and Billing! On, Tech Ops! on, Support! The numbers are chilling! To the end of the quarter! To the side of the wall! Now slash away! Slash away! Slash away all!"
As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, When they meet with a budget, they mount to the sky; So up to the C-Suite the profits they flew, With a sleigh full of bonuses, and dividends too.
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the call the prancing and pawing of the Town Hall. As I drew in my head and was turning around, the reduction in force came down with a bound.
He was dressed all in suits, from his head to his foot, and his reputation was covered with ashes and soot; A bundle of pink slips he had flung on his back, and he looked like a reaper just opening his pack.
His eyes—how they shifted! His dimples, how scary! His outlook was bullish, his logic was airy! He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, and fired the veterans; then turned with a je-k,
And laying a finger aside of his nose, And hitting "Reply All," up the stock market rose; He sprang to his limo, to his board gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight— "Happy RIF-mas to all, and to all a good night!"


I take comfort in...

I think my chances are about 50/50 of being impacted today.

I started at the very bottom and worked my way up over 28 years. In that time, I’ve held—and mastered—multiple roles. These roles allowed me to learn how everything works. I’m one of the few people who truly understands how everything works end-to-end.

I’ve built many systems and processes here that only I fully understand.

So if today is the day I’m “promoted to customer,” I take comfort in knowing Verizon is fu---d. I won’t be here to take anyone's calls, explain how something works, or why it was designed a certain way. I won’t be handing out contacts or filling in gaps or giving out recommendations on solutions to complex issues.

And I also take comfort knowing I’m not alone in feeling this way. A lot of people know where the bodies are buried—and they won’t be helping either.

Good luck.


Tired of the a-s kissing

Seeing all these sycophants “oh the C-some bullsh-t-three-letter” is doing this and that’s the right decision. So many fools running this place and there’s a halo because they get paid highly and therefore must be brilliant. Fu--ing mo--ns every last one. These geniuses had so much time to right the ship.


How can we share this website with coworkers???

I think it would be helpful if more of us participated here so we could all benefit from more information.

I see that new threads get 300+ views within a couple of hours, which is great, but I do not feel we have reached critical mass yet.

I would share this internally, but I am worried I might get in trouble if someone were to report me.

I have mentioned it verbally to my team, but that is only about 10 people.

I could post about it on Facebook using a random name, but I doubt that would actually reach anyone useful.

Any ideas or suggestions on how to spread the word safely and effectively?


how can we share this website with coworkers?

i think it'd be good if more of us participate here, we'd have access to more info.

i see that new threads get 300+ views within a couple of hours which is good, but i do not think we have critical mass here.

i'd share internally but i am afraid that i'll get in trouble if someone reports me.

i did verbally let my team know, but that's only about 10 folks.

i can post on facebook using a random name but i dont think it would reach anyone...

thoughts?


GNT Thread

I work in GNT, below is what I’m hearing as of 10:30EST on 11/19. Please share what you are hearing in the comments.

  1. If your AD is getting cut, your ED will notify your AD first thing tomorrow morning, and then notify ICs on the AD’s team. Depending on your ED, they may give the AD the option to call ICs if the AD would like to make those calls themselves.
  2. If your AD is not getting cut, they will get a list after 5pm today and they will start making calls at 8am tomorrow. They may not send calendar invites, so don’t infer anything from that.
  3. Once everyone is notified, your AD (or ED if your AD is impacted) will set up a call with the survivors.
  4. This isn’t just layoffs, it’s also a major restructuring. Markets will be merged. I’m hearing that there will be restructuring/reorganization beyond markets being merged, but I haven’t heard any details.

This su-ks. It has been poorly managed. I’m sorry for everyone who will be impacted, and I’m sorry for survivors who are already spread thin and will be expected to take on inhumane levels of work. Each one of you deserves better than this. Be nice to your colleagues, give everyone a little extra grace, and make sure you have everyone’s contact info on your personal phone.


Dan and his crew are fear mongers themselves.

Across my career, leadership has pulled the same tired scare tactics… threatening people with unemployment, dangling PIPs, and handing out code-of-conduct write-ups like candy. It’s always the same script: intimidate the workforce and hope fear keeps everyone quiet.

Then Dan strolls in and casually tosses out ‘layoffs’ like it’s his fun fact of the day. Another pressure play. Another attempt to make people sweat.

Well, on behalf of every corporate employee who’s done being toyed with: Dan, you can’t threaten us with a good time. I’m not lurking on this forum because I’m scared of losing my job. I’m here waiting on my check. And honestly? Even if you don’t lay me off, I’m out the door after my FMLA anyway.


Unfortunately there will be more in 1Q 2026

Its not over... even for those that survive this round. Keep your resumes and profiles updated and possibly, start looking.

Dan is the true hatchet man and only cares about the bottom line. He's gonna squeeze that extra $0.50 per share out come he-l or high water.

Stay strong people...


Citi wants desperate people as a preference.

Overall, being let go may be a blessing in disguise. Citi does not want people who WANT to be here but rather people who NEED to be here. People need a job that goes without saying after all you gotta pay the bills. Citi though, wants people who are really desperate like really lean on the insurance. This way management has more increased leverage against you. They can squeeze in the long hours all the while strongly insinuating to not make a big deal about it after all “you really need this job, so don’t rock the boat. How’s that insurance working for you that you really need.” Its always a tongue in cheek comment that’s uncomfortably laughed at, at the time, but the implication is still there.

There’s a mental formula that’s assessed I believe. The more kids you have, the more dependent you are on insurance, the more bills you have…..the more “they got you right where they want you”. The pressure can really be applied. Usually summed up with berating you in public on team calls so that the others can see and know to step in line or else.

I’ve been in 5 different teams over the years and have cycled through 9 different managers. Two of them were really awesome but they too saw the systemic toxicity and left to go elsewhere. The other 7 managers stuck around where they can thrive and their skills (bully tactics) are appreciated and leverages quite readily.


Dan and his brand (a special poem)

Dan sits high in the tower of glass,
Counting figures, trimming mass.
A whisper travels down the line
“Another round… this time it’s mine.”

He speaks of progress, polished and clean,
Of AI’s future and a workforce unseen.
Two years back he warned the crowd,
“It will leave many jobless,” he said out loud.
Now here he stands, the prophecy man,
Not stopping the storm..he is the plan.

People who built the network’s frame,
Names and faces..now numbers, just the same.
Their keycards flicker, the screens go black,
But profits rise, and no one looks back

Dan calls it efficiency, a modern shift,
But to those he cuts, it’s a stolen gift..
Security, dignity, years of sweat,
All erased in a corporate reset.

And when the machines finally hum in place
Where voices once filled a bustling space,
Maybe Dan will stand alone and see
That progress without people is poverty.

For a workforce falls not loud, but quietly
In email threads, and HR calls,
While a man in a tower signs and enthralls.

History won’t ask about stock or demand,
But who remembered the hands that built the brand.
And someday, far beyond Verizon’s span,
They’ll tell the story of a man named Dan
Who knew AI would hollow the land…
And led the march of the unemployed band

(Share yours)


How long to stay for bonus payout

I hate that I have to come here to ask this but I don’t trust my HR business partner at all. I am an HQ employee and I hate every day of it. How long do I need to stay in order to receive my 2025 bonus? I know we are paid in like February of the next year and stuff, but is there a cut off ? Or do you have to be employed through the pay period where we receive it next year? I’d realllllly appreciate the help or experience.


Assistance Programs

ATT’s Assistance programs are an absolute joke. Going through IVF is already a headache and then when you submit a claim a few months past their arbitrary deadline (even with receipts) it’s denied. Been nothing but loyal to the company since I’ve been here. They don’t even advertise these programs either. You have to click through 20 different HROneStop links to even know they exist.


Are we still going to be working after the announcement?

So if we are told on Thursday that we are being let go are we done that day or are they going to keep us working for another month after the announcement? The last round of mass layoffs that happened in 2023 they announced the layoffs in May, but kept all those employees until August or October depending on what group you were in. Just wondering if it will be immediate or if they will expect us to continue on for another 30 or 60 days before we are done.


What's with the silence?

Can somebody please explain why they're being so cagy with information? What would it hurt to provide us with some clarity? What do they gain by keeping us in the dark, other than reducing productivity and further eroding morale that has already hit rock bottom?


How it's done

Affected employees will receive phone calls between 8-10am, and survivors will get about a 45 minute heads-up for a 15 minute “business update” meeting where HR and ADs or above tell you who was let go. This usually occurs about 11am.

If you’re let go, you’ll likely get to leave work early on Thursday and won’t be expected to come in on Friday.

Source: This is my 6th rodeo

Just read this, and I thought others who might have missed it might want to see it too, so I'm making it into a thread. All credit goes to @a3+1ka9y513n.


Don't worry though

As someone who has 8 lines with Verizon and I am sure a lot of employees are the same I expect Q4 2025 and Q1 2026 to be impacted by the laid off employees taking thier service somewhere else.

Don't worry though, Dan the hatchet man 🪓 and his PayPal minions got all of that figured with the impressive AI models that Dan exclusively seen and tested 😏


Other posts from today/yesterday

Here is the list

if the link does not work, google the post ID...

RIF/Layoffs 2025

I find the rumblings just (which will happen Thursday… where there is smoke, there is fire) rolling off my back, like water off a ducks. In Jan/Feb 2021, I was part of the RIF and was able to find a new role. After living through that experience... — read more

5 hours ago by Rep ENC | 1258 views | 2 reactions (+1/-1) | no replies yet

Post ID: @OP+1ka8s67x50

AI to call impacted employees Nov 20
shall provide all instructions

5 hours ago by Anonymous | 422 views | 10 reactions (+1/-9) | no replies yet

Post ID: @OP+1ka8s4bdg

Are concession devices locked up or wiped out remotely on layoff day?
I'm talking about laptops, cell phones, etc. Are laid off people's devices locked up and wiped out the day of? Or are laid off employees still considered employees until the end of the year with limited access to their devices?

6 hours ago by Anonymous | 1148 views | 2 reactions (+1/-1) | 4 replies (last 4 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka8r1jya0

sing a song with me
“Revolution (Wild Exec Remix — Dan’s Dominion Edition)” — Fully original, satirical, gritty, and lively — Verse 1 Dan kicked open the boardroom doors Like a general marching through a fog. He said, “This is the revolution,” And the silence snapped... — read more

6 hours ago by Anonymous | 104 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | no replies yet

Post ID: @OP+1ka8qkx93

🤦‍♂️ The Verizon AI Illusion
It's frustrating when the leaders responsible for AI implementation are completely out of touch. The folks actually building the solutions are not the ones attending major industry AI events. Instead, we get VPs and CDOs who secured their positions... — read more

9 hours ago by Anonymous | 753 views | 12 reactions (+12/-0) | 4 replies (last 3 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka8czt6z

What happens to contractors?
Are contractors cut before FTEs? It would be weird to cut FTEs but keep contractors.

12 hours ago by Anonymous | 1990 views | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | 13 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka827q60

R2B IS Gone
I have knowledge that in the midst of 200 stores being converted you will see the r2b space dissolved. I was in discussion that split compensation is a waste of money and that with the stores going indirect the biz customers who come in store will be... — read more

12 hours ago by Anonymous | 1383 views | 1 reaction (+0/-1) | 5 replies (last 1 hour ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka823qr7

Infosys did this
The Infosys contract is a predatory arrangement where they deliver nearly nothing and su-k Verizon dry. This latest emergency turn is the first stop on the road to he-l and Infosys is behind the wheel.

13 hours ago by Anonymous | 644 views | 15 reactions (+14/-1) | 3 replies (last 23 minutes ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7zz2y6

Hire to fire
How is it possible thar our organization added 4~5 headcount less than 12 months ago and we are now being told that layoffs are imminent. Makes no sense to me. You hire people to lay them off couple of months later.

13 hours ago by Anonymous | 1240 views | 6 reactions (+5/-1) | 10 replies (last 3 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7zaz0h

Nothing matters
Embrace nihilism and you will feel so much better about life!! Don’t stress yourself self over something you can’t control. One day you’ll will be gone and no one will remember you.

13 hours ago by Anonymous | 359 views | 11 reactions (+8/-3) | 2 replies (last 6 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7yn28w

What about band 8 employees?
13 hours ago by Anonymous | 959 views | 4 reactions (+3/-1) | 1 reply (12 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7ymkpb

Don’t Worry, if you don’t get Laid off this time:
There are always the Layoffs that are Guaranteed to come after the Frontier merger— we are nowhere near done with the layoff musical chairs 🪑.

14 hours ago by Anonymous | 958 views | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | 2 replies (last 14 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7ws0k8

Can you Pulse me now
Please pulse the 15,000 managers being let go so we can really know how they feel lol. Brown noising only gets you so far ill stick with the union.

14 hours ago by Change energizes us | 1108 views | 13 reactions (+7/-6) | 9 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7vt6he

Announcements
There will be many leadership “retiring” announcements over the next 48 hours. Many of those emails are shocking as people have no idea in their orgs. You shouldn’t be fooled as this is an attempt to make you believe that the leadership is... — read more

14 hours ago by Russolong | 3450 views | 21 reactions (+13/-8) | 4 replies (last 3 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7vq2k9

Indirect store conversion
Alright, if you are in a store and it is being converted to an indirect. And they offered you the store manager position. Would you take it?

14 hours ago by Anonymous | 824 views | no reactions | 5 replies (last 34 minutes ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7ve6mb0

FP&A
Roles will be spared! (Fingers crossed) Good vibes…

14 hours ago by Anonymous | 661 views | 5 reactions (+0/-5) | no replies yet

Post ID: @OP+1ka7vcvfr

Who can access this website? Is it SSO?
Severance.verizon.com

15 hours ago by Anonymous | 3026 views | 9 reactions (+5/-4) | 2 replies (last 14 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7qgs38

Check your calendars
Just received a 1:1 with my manager tomorrow. It’s been an honor serving with y’all. You people are the ones who make this company tolerable. Not management.

15 hours ago by Anonymous | 4267 views | 26 reactions (+22/-4) | 13 replies (last 14 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7q13qs

How They Decide Who Goes
••• First they look everyone who has active corrective actions such as PIPs, verbal, written, and final warnings and attendance issues. Then they look at who on the team is rated as high potential, emerging talent, high professional, valued... — read more

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 3205 views | 21 reactions (+18/-3) | 7 replies (last 4 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7pf56s

Tomorrow is D day!
directors will know tomorrow AM whether or not they are canned. SHould we assume if the director is safe, our team is safe?

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 2773 views | 7 reactions (+0/-7) | 5 replies (last 6 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7pbexr

Promoted to Supervisor Jan 2025
I haven't been in my position for a full year can they still lay me off?

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 1140 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | 7 replies (last 10 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7p97qw

Your nervous because?
Wish I could do a legit poll but I'll just ask. Are you worried/nervous because? A. The company doesn't care and is just cutting anyone. B. Im just not that busy so I can see why it would be me. C. Leadership isnt communicating clearly on this... — read more

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 1129 views | 3 reactions (+1/-2) | 8 replies (last 12 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7nxn4b

I hope they cut the missing in action employees
I pray only those that weren't working anyway get cut. The ones that are never on any calls, ignore emails, not on slack, you don't even know if they're working or on vacation. Somehow they always get away with it. Whatever that group of people's... — read more

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 1298 views | 18 reactions (+15/-3) | 7 replies (last 2 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7n011g

Did directors help make the list? Or senior directors only?
I’m wondering if my director (one step above my associate director) help to put together the list of names. Our Senior director is still relatively new and wouldn’t know the or well enough to know which people should stay and go, so I’m wondering if... — read more

16 hours ago by Anonymous | 2917 views | 4 reactions (+3/-1) | 13 replies (last 56 minutes ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7mgj16

Just to lighten the mood...
(To the tune of: Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys) Mammas, don't let your babies grow up to work for Big Red Don't let 'em pick networks or chase that 5G Make 'em be doctors and lawyers and such Mammas, don't let your babies grow... — read more

17 hours ago by Anonymous | 554 views | 13 reactions (+7/-6) | 5 replies (last 13 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7hpja2

Depressed , anxious , sleep deprived
Anyone else here feeling like this ? Just tell me already if I’m jobless. I got so much debt that the severance wouldn’t be enough. I’m SCARED. If I make it this round , once frontier deal is complete that just means more layoffs. A lot of Frontier... — read more

17 hours ago by OP | 2168 views | 19 reactions (+16/-3) | 11 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7g3m0w

What does this mean for career progression?
As a tech with a goal of going into network engineering, should I give up? I don’t want to be a tech forever but this is making me lose hope.

18 hours ago by Anonymous | 1142 views | 4 reactions (+2/-2) | 13 replies (last 5 hours ago)
Post ID: @OP+1ka7fjy6z0
The state of CS at VZ VCG is bad
18 hours ago by Anonymous | 1568 views | no reactions | 3 replies (last 16 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7e7mkf0

Old prediction
Someone posted an article on here once, it was so e kind of prediction of how VZ would play out over time and wonder if anyone knows what I'm talking about or has the link for the article. I wish I could remember more so this doesn't sound like a... — read more

18 hours ago by Anonymous | 1309 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | 6 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7cxd1t

Private Equity
Sell off company assets, assume lots of debt, the board pulls out tons of money in special payouts and destroys the company. Verizon is right on track. Get out before the real crazy begins.

19 hours ago by Anonymous | 752 views | 5 reactions (+2/-3) | 4 replies (last 16 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7c387n

The survivors are the ones who'll be unlucky
Survivors will keep working for a company that’s struggling, probably having to do extra work, and facing a future where severance is no longer a guarantee. I honestly think that getting severance now might be the better option between the two.

19 hours ago by Anonymous | 2103 views | 23 reactions (+15/-8) | 18 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7b90t4

If ADs are calling first levels on Thursday, when do the ADs get their call?
I can’t imagine a laid of AD calling to tell their director reports their fate.

19 hours ago by Anonymous | 3436 views | 7 reactions (+6/-1) | 15 replies (last 15 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7av50f

Lesssss goooooooo!
In the words of one former CEO…Lessssss gooooooooo! Ayyyyyeeeeeee.

19 hours ago by Anonymous | 666 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | 5 replies (last 5 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka79k5qd

What’s the schedule?
What’s the schedule for finding out this week? Do SDs know or do they find out tomorrow or Tuesday? Does everyone else find out Thursday? How will it happen?

20 hours ago by Anonymous | 3659 views | 8 reactions (+4/-4) | 7 replies (last 3 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka7779aq0

It’s hard to embrace being disposable
Look I’m not even mad anymore. just tired... Every week it’s another round of whispers about realignments and optimization, and we all know what that means. People disappear from the org chart, managers act like it’s business as usual... and everyone... — read more

20 hours ago by Anonymous | 1267 views | 33 reactions (+30/-3) | 9 replies (last 18 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka770aeq

I'm keeping tabs of all the people on my team who told me they're safe
Once it's all over, I just want to see if any of them were right. I highly doubt it, but we'll see.

21 hours ago by Anonymous | 1410 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | 7 replies (last 16 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka74rkae

I’m running out of options
I don’t even know where to look for another job anymore. I’ve tried everything, sent out more resumes than ever, reached out to everyone I know, even looked far outside the box. I’m willing to take lower pay, worse benefits, whatever it takes, just... — read more

21 hours ago by Anonymous | 1153 views | 5 reactions (+2/-3) | 6 replies (last 16 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka74hnmg

WARN act in NJ
If I’m reading this correctly, if you work in NJ, they need to notify us 90 days in advance to avoid penalty. Do does this mean anyone told on 11/20 would be on the payroll for 90 days in NJ?

21 hours ago by Anonymous | 1255 views | 4 reactions (+2/-2) | 6 replies (last 15 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka74bzzv0

VZ is a (tele)Communications company?!
So hour by hour every publication is using the '15 to 20k layoffs' headlines to get to whatever sl-t they have, and all of the quotes and bullets are the same for all of the articles. And VZ officially has no comment. And this site and Reddit and... — read more

21 hours ago by Anonymous | 982 views | 3 reactions (+2/-1) | 1 reply (21 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka732dqn

Severance package or just the door ?
21 hours ago by Anonymous | 1582 views | 3 reactions (+0/-3) | 5 replies (last 17 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka72vz4y

Cut the legal team that is supposed to approve the RIFs. Problem solved!
21 hours ago by Anon | 334 views | 8 reactions (+5/-3) | 1 reply (19 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka72v20a

Charge taxes on offshoring jobs
Companies that offshore jobs should be taxed heavily. It’s essentially “exporting” jobs oversees. Verizon would have to pay a huge bill on that case.

22 hours ago by Anonymous | 379 views | 30 reactions (+29/-1) | 4 replies (last 17 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6zsp5f

*Verizon Layoff Reality Check (Worthwhile Read)**
Unfortunately, a lot of people who will end up impacted by Verizon layoffs and start their job search in earnest are in for a terribly unpleasant surprise, even shock! Working at Verizon doesn't automatically qualify you for a great new gig. ... — read more

22 hours ago by Post-Verizon Reality Thought Provoker | 4637 views | 184 reactions (+99/-85) | 21 replies (last 36 minutes ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6yqhnz

I'm simply glad it's nearly over
One way or another. This wait has been unbearable.

23 hours ago by Anonymous | 824 views | 12 reactions (+12/-0) | 3 replies (last 20 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6xjjry

The truth about AI. From someone who is implementing it
I am an enterprise architect that has been tasked with implementing AI from design to implementation. We have been very busy for the past two years, from governance, safety and control rack, and stack. Yes, AI is very impressive, and does bring a... — read more

23 hours ago by Anonymous | 1807 views | 24 reactions (+22/-2) | 8 replies (last 11 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6x5apr

How are you dealing with this?
I can barely manage the stress. I’ve tried everything and gone through every emotion on the spectrum, from outright fear to total indifference. This is taking a real toll on my health. And of course it’s happening at a point in my life when I’m... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 2006 views | 33 reactions (+32/-1) | 24 replies (last 16 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6v1sh3

AI discounts coming?
I love it. Saw this on another board for PWC layoffs. (Price Waterhouse..one of the big 4 accountiing firms) I Googled this: Client Demands and PwC's Response Demand for Discounts: As PwC has publicly touted its significant AI investments and the... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 403 views | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | 3 replies (last 12 hours ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6tyzxx

IT Engineering
will IT Engineering be hit hard in this they are down to bare bones now

1 day ago by Anonymous | 632 views | 3 reactions (+1/-2) | 1 reply (1 day ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6taha1

My predictions of the process
In my head, it’s going to be like a big worksheet. PART 1 - WHO? Ratings are a part of it. A 3 of 5 might keep you employed, so long as there aren’t any layoffs, but if there are no 1’s or 2’s then that means the 3’s are first. Quota attainment... — read more

1 day ago by NoNoNo | 1469 views | 11 reactions (+0/-11) | 1 reply (1 day ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6rqgrv

Verizon plans a harsh change after major customer losses
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-plans-harsh-change-major-201300564.html Verizon plans a harsh change after major customer losses Patricia Battle Fri, November 14, 2025 at 3:13 PM EST Verizon has been on a downward spiral this year... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 5339 views | 7 reactions (+1/-6) | 26 replies (last 41 minutes ago)

Post ID: @OP+1ka6rkzx2

Where do you live?
With recent announcements stating jobs would only be open in the main hub locations, I bet layoffs for workers who don't live close to the a hub. More and more people are required to go into the office so it's only makes sense. Why get rid of 1... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1346 views | 7 reactions (+3/-4) | 5 replies (last 15 hours ago)

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Verizon Credo
Ooh still seems we have one: https://www.verizon.com/about/our-company/code-conduct Seems it’s just about half the length it used to be, and what we lived up to daily, which made us great.. up until our management disregarded it in their daily... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 470 views | 5 reactions (+4/-1) | 5 replies (last 14 hours ago)

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They know exactly what they're doing.
Don't ask "how do they expect [any function] to continue?". They don't. Verizon will look completely different very quickly and your job, if you still have one, is going to change. Whether it's a sale, merger, or complete dismantling, the old phone... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1473 views | 6 reactions (+5/-1) | 10 replies (last 21 hours ago)

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Thursday
“You don’t have to come in, you can work remote through thanksgiving” What about the 5 dollar burger special on Thursday??

1 day ago by Anonymous | 869 views | 10 reactions (+5/-5) | 2 replies (last 16 hours ago)

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Hans Vestberg's running journey

RunWithHans last update was 6 weeks ago. Will he still be having them?

1 day ago by Anonymous | 506 views | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | 5 replies (last 23 hours ago)

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So much for
So much for jobs coming back to the US. Mid and entry level jobs are disappearing by the tens of thousands and the trend is accelerating thanks to enhanced AI and its adoption across the jobs universe. Finance, law, entertainment are all in its... — read more

1 day ago by Ernie from Florida | 440 views | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | 3 replies (last 1 day ago)

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The Company Men…Redux
By coincidence but this weekend I discovered a movie on Tubi called “The Company Men”…gives good perspective about the corporate shenanigans many of us have been caught up in. Recommend giving it a watch.

1 day ago by Anonymous | 249 views | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | 3 replies (last 23 hours ago)

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I'm surprisingly calm
I’m waiting to hear whether I’m getting cut, and I’m calmer than I thought I’d be. I spent a long stretch tightening things up at home, cutting back, saving where I could, and making sure we built a routine that didn’t depend on every paycheck lining... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 876 views | 19 reactions (+16/-3) | 6 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Verizon CEO Schulman and his Department of Verizon Efficiency, (DOVE).
The transformation of Verizon under CEO Dan Schulman, driven by AI, to mirror the goals of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)—to achieve a radical reduction in operating friction and an aggressive overhaul of the cost structure—but... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 3155 views | 10 reactions (+6/-4) | 16 replies (last 1 hour ago)

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How will this affect SRE teams under Jennifer Kessler
1 day ago by Anonymous | 693 views | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | 2 replies (last 21 hours ago)

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What about previously scheduled holiday vacations?
I have international vacation trips for Thanksgiving and Christmas already approved and non-refundable airline tickets purchased. If I'm not on the list I assume I will not be claiming the vacation days and will get extra pay for the vacation days... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1291 views | 4 reactions (+2/-2) | 17 replies (last 17 hours ago)

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No management positions posted
There are no management positions posted on the job board. This time the RIFs do not allow you to look for something internally. If you’re out, there’s no positions to look around for. The only positions posted as of Friday were in retail stores... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1626 views | 9 reactions (+9/-0) | 13 replies (last 21 hours ago)

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Is badge access cut off immediately?
Just curious if I need to gather all my personal items before Thurs.

1 day ago by Anonymous | 2203 views | 4 reactions (+3/-1) | 18 replies (last 23 hours ago)

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The end is in sight.
Private equity will put the final nails in the Verizon coffin. Hans did his job for Blackrock.

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1092 views | 8 reactions (+6/-2) | 7 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Is it possible to get both severance and unemployment?
Since I haven't been here long enough to qualify for anything close to a decent severance, I'm wondering if I'd still be able to file for unemployment if I end up getting hit by the cuts. I just want to know what kind of safety net I’d actually have... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1875 views | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | 9 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Any Impact to Legal Team under Vandana
We are already a small team - anyone knows if there will be any impact in legal department?

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1854 views | 6 reactions (+3/-3) | 12 replies (last 18 hours ago)

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Verizon Set Backs and AI 2025
Another Verizon setback is on the horizon. Cuts are being made without collaboration with leadership that is directly involved in the work. Not the slightest idea of who does what and their job function. Dan starts his vision by taking 10 steps back... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 944 views | 16 reactions (+15/-1) | 4 replies (last 23 hours ago)

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How long to find a new job?
I’m thinking at least a year in this economy.

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1470 views | 8 reactions (+3/-5) | 6 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Quick action/Bad decision
While the RIF may be needed to cut cost and financially support or spend on new areas but the outcome of a quick decision like this usually does not work out from my experience. The employees did not get much time since the announcement was made. My... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1647 views | 14 reactions (+10/-4) | 12 replies (last 22 hours ago)

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The suspense is ki-ling me. Just let us know already
There is more information about this mass layoff on every news website. Reporting to work as well as all internal websites is like crickets, no information - like nothing is happening. Next time please let the employees know they are getting let go... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous18 | 1457 views | 9 reactions (+8/-1) | 8 replies (last 22 hours ago)

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Perplexity Answers Which Dept are at risk?
The departments and roles most at risk in Verizon’s current layoff wave are those in non-hub locations, remote-only roles, legacy functions, and middle management, with a particular emphasis on areas not directly tied to core business transformation... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 3027 views | 21 reactions (+18/-3) | 9 replies (last 1 day ago)

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When Verizon doubled down on 5G, we also doubled our debt.
Between $50B in spectrum, and billions more in buildout, we flushed money down the toilet to be able to say we had “Real 5G”. Users didn’t care. A rose by any other name. Incremental speed increases to keep networks delivering richer content within... — read more

1 day ago by Anon | 867 views | 8 reactions (+7/-1) | 9 replies (last 1 day ago)

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We don’t have a bottom line problem, we have a top line problem.
Cut pay plans and increase quotas. What kind of talent do you retain? What kind of environment do you foster? You wind up with reps stuffing sales with undiscussed line items. Risking getting fired so they don’t get fired. Makes sense and sounds... — read more

1 day ago by Anon | 450 views | 5 reactions (+4/-1) | no replies yet

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We are all just a number to Verizon
Remember all of my comrades, we are all just a number in corporate Verizon. That number is number 2

1 day ago by Anonymous | 325 views | 6 reactions (+5/-1) | 1 reply (1 day ago)

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Management is the problem.
Anyone else think that this week’s productivity will reach an all time low? Is there any hope of it improving the following week? The only chance management has of rallying the workforce is to significantly cut the bloated layers of management... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 1414 views | 16 reactions (+14/-2) | 10 replies (last 21 hours ago)

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Thanks & good luck to all!
This site has been great therapy for me. It’s so hard not to be bitter about the situation, our leaders, and all of the uncertainty. Verizon & all the great people here have given me so much over the last 15 yrs. I’ve had the time of my life, hoped... — read more

1 day ago by Anonymous | 826 views | 27 reactions (+27/-0) | 2 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Pretty sure management layoffs will continue right up till the unions contract which there will not be a strike
So once their done destroying the management already heard rumors that the unions already cut a deal with the company to settle the contract .They already came up with a plan to sell it to the membership as if it was the best they could Do .It will... — read more

1 day ago by Nono | 847 views | 3 reactions (+0/-3) | 3 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Verbally Abusive Leadership in VGS
Any one else's senior director started using increasing profanity on joint team calls, and openly degrading others as 'failures' in front of 20+ folks? The level of unprofessionalism if out of hand since Dan's webcast few weeks back.

1 day ago by Anonymous | 2186 views | 9 reactions (+7/-2) | 18 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Anyone at Hidden Ridge in Las Colins?
I’m in cell site real estate and my manager said we’re most likely safe. Manager heard nothing as far as RIFs go. Working from office 3x a week. Does anyone else work at Hidden Ridge?

1 day ago by BigF | 893 views | 3 reactions (+1/-2) | 3 replies (last 1 day ago)

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Anyone know anything about retail and ops support
Have any stores been notified of being closed or converted to indirect? What about the ops support people? If these stores close down do they cut their ops person too?

1 day ago by Anonymous | 479 views | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | no replies yet

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Useful: BIG BLUE BUTTON - See only active posts.

For new folks here, there is a large "ACTIVE" button right above the first thread...

You can use it to see what posts had recent replies.

That's it, that's my post.

Anyhow, I hope this helps someone. Good luck all....

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September 19, 2024 by Anonymous | 461 views | no reactions | 1 reply (September 20, 2024) | Reply
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Please take my advice and decide your own path! Leave!

I've been a Team Manager in claims with State Farm for over 30 years. I'm retiring this year after I get my MIP. Honestly feel sooooo sorry for everyone that has to stay. There have always been periods of ups and downs at SF. These last 10 years and especially this year have been an absolute nightmare. When I got promoted to TM in 1997, my boss told me to be sure to leave SF better than I found it. I tried my best but failed. The people running State Farm are absolute parasites, make no mistakes about it. To all employees, leave this place before it drains your soul, and damages your mental and physical health beyond repair. This place is just not worth it. Not saying the grass is greener on the other side but at least see if it is. The Executive leadership you have is exploiting you for only their gain, have destroyed any ounce of decency left at State Farm and are just pure clueless sc-m bags. All they want is conformity, not your opinion. All the Peakon, Voice and View, Skip Level Meetings cr-p are all just the same smoke and mirrors that the politicians use to steal you blind. It's not your TMs fault, but there are TMs that are bad and make it even worse as they drink the Kool Aid. There are still a few decent TMs/SMs that try to do the right thing but if they get caught doing it they get punished. State Farm is a sinking ship, that they crashed, and now the Captain and other officers are stepping over the elderly, women and children to save themselves and kicking people off the life boats. I get you need to pay the bills, but find a way out sooner than later. This get's a lot worse and does every day. I almost feel dirty everyday I have to work at this place, and you know deep down what this company is doing is just wrong at every level. Get out, just get out, Sorry, hope that helps some of you decide.


Just switched 8 lines to T-Mobile

Can’t support a company upending American workers’ lives while stuffing the execs pockets with millions.

Just switched over 4 lines this weekend and convinced 4 other family members to switch to T Mobile.

The best part is that T Mobile is in fact cheaper for everyone. So it’s a win - win.


H. J. Heinz Philosophy on Employees (They Were Human) - circa 1897

In 1897, while most factory women labored 14-hour days in dangerous, filthy conditions for pennies, the women at H.J. Heinz’s Pittsburgh factory received hot meals, medical care, and even had rooftop gardens. They worked for a man who believed something radical: that workers were human.

The photograph shows women in white aprons at their stations, bottling ketchup—filling, capping, labeling—hour after hour. Yet their faces are not hollow or broken; they look dignified, almost content. In the Gilded Age, when industrial progress was built on disposable labor, this was extraordinary. Factories were typically dark, unsafe, and exploitative, but Heinz’s factory was different.

Henry John Heinz, who began his company in 1869 with bottled horseradish, built an empire on quality food. By the 1880s, his slogan “57 Varieties” symbolized trust, but he also pursued a quieter revolution: treating workers with dignity. His Pittsburgh factory, opened in 1888, was clean, bright, and safe, with white uniforms laundered by the company.

The amenities were unprecedented: free hot meals, locker rooms with showers, on-site medical care, manicure services, rooftop gardens, and educational programs. Workers learned English, sewing, and cooking, investing in their future. Critics thought Heinz was crazy, but his approach paid off: loyalty was high, turnover low, and productivity strong.
During the 1894 economic depression, while other factories laid off workers, Heinz expanded, keeping everyone employed and offering support. Employees remembered his personal care and reassurance during hard times. By the early 1900s, the factory became famous not just for ketchup, but as a model of welfare capitalism, attracting visitors eager to see its progressive approach.
Women at Heinz worked with skill and dignity, often coming from families trapped in brutal steel mills. Sarah O’Brien, a worker from 1895 to 1919, wrote that they were treated “like proper ladies,” experiencing clean work, fair wages, and personal respect from Heinz himself.

H.J. Heinz died in 1919, but his philosophy endured. Those women were pioneers, proving that fair treatment wasn’t weakness but smart business. Every bottle of Heinz ketchup carries their legacy—not just a product, but evidence that capitalism can be humane. In 1897, inside that Pittsburgh factory, a quiet revolution was happening, one bottle at a time.


Cuts hit the people who gave the most

Seeing that long timers were pushed out makes it clear how little this place cares. Some of these folks built their whole careers there. They could’ve offered early retirement or a way to leave on their own terms, but they didn’t. It’s a rough way to treat people who showed up for decades.