Please please open backup the community centers in Kansas City. We seniors would be open to paying monthly to keep these centers open. They have been a godsend for us and to just close with no warning or no way to say good bye to staff right before Xmas is just awful. Please reconsider
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For the last several weeks of posts of discrepancies, disputes and down right obnoxious replies and posts.
Here is a breakdown of the key issues you've described and whether they are likely to have legal merit:
⚖️ Legal Merit of the Complaints:
It is highly unlikely that either of the actions described—the performance rating changes or the salary range consolidation—is illegal on its own, especially in the context of general U.S. employment law (which applies unless a specific country or state is mentioned).
- The Low Performance Ratings ("Forced Distribution")
- The Law: In the U.S., the vast majority of employment is at-will. This means an employer can generally modify an employee's job duties, compensation, or even terminate them for any reason that is not illegal (i.e., not discriminatory).
- Performance Reviews: Companies are legally allowed to change how they evaluate performance, introduce "forced distribution" (where a certain percentage must receive low ratings), and enforce stricter standards, even if it leads to ratings that employees feel are unfair or unexpected.
- The Only Legal Challenge (Discrimination): A performance rating only becomes a potential legal issue if it can be proven that the rating was given based on illegal discrimination (e.g., race, gender, age, religion, disability, etc.) or in retaliation for engaging in a protected activity (like whistleblowing or reporting harassment).
- The fact that many people are getting low ratings for the first time suggests a change in company policy, not necessarily individual illegal discrimination. For a lawsuit to succeed, a lawyer would need to show a pattern of discrimination against a protected class (e.g., "Only women received the 'Needs Improvement' rating," or "The rating was given right after I filed a formal complaint").
- Conclusion: Being unhappy with a rating, or even feeling it was unfair, is generally not a legal issue.
- Consolidating Salary Ranges for Remote Employees
- The Law: Employers are free to set, change, and consolidate salary ranges and structures. They can decide to use a single, consistent salary range for all remote employees, regardless of the employee's specific location, even if some employees were previously in a higher, location-based range.
- The Only Legal Challenge (Pay Equity): The consolidation itself is not illegal. However, the resulting salaries would still need to comply with Equal Pay laws. These laws require that employees performing substantially similar work receive equal pay, regardless of s-x (or, in some states, other protected characteristics), unless the difference is based on a factor other than s-x (like seniority, merit, or a geographical pay difference).
- In your case, the company is moving toward more consistency, which generally reduces pay equity risk based on location differences, not increases it.
- Conclusion: The consolidation is a standard business decision regarding compensation structure and is generally not illegal.
📝 The Importance of Documentation
While the actions are likely legal, the advice to document everything is still very sound advice. - For the Employee: Documentation helps establish a clear timeline and the company's reasoning. If an employee is eventually terminated, this documentation could be crucial evidence if they believe they have grounds for a lawsuit (i.e., if they can show the ratings were pretext for a discriminatory or retaliatory firing).
- What to Document:
- The New Rating: The exact rating, the written feedback, and any meetings where it was discussed.
- Prior Performance: Previous high ratings, positive emails, and concrete examples of work that exceeded expectations before the change.
- The Salary Change: The communication about the new salary band and how it was communicated.
- The Thread: The general timeline and tenor of the complaints from peers.
💡 Summary for the Thread
Based on general U.S. employment law: - The actions are likely legal. Companies have wide latitude to change performance review systems and compensation structures.
- A lawsuit would require proof of illegal discrimination or retaliation. General unfairness or bad management is not grounds for a legal case.
- Documentation is still smart. It protects the employee by creating an evidence trail should they need to challenge the company on legitimate grounds (like discrimination) in the future.
The best next steps for people on the thread would be to research the specific employment laws in their state and, if they suspect their individual rating or pay was based on an illegal factor like race, gender, or religion, then they should consult with an employment attorney.
Update on cuts 12/18
Anyone cut today !
Are we still thinking there will be Enterprise-wide layoffs in January '26?
What are people hearing?
401k going down
Asked my manager as a follow op with the 401k going down and what other total compensation costs there are projected to be in 2026. She was surprised that barely any people were asking about that, granted the area I work in is basically all women of the older demographic. Do a lot of the people just not care with all these cut’s happening?
Security in the Houston area
For those that don’t know, the Verizon stores in the houston area have had armed security in their stores for the last 10+ years.
Today we were told that beginning 01/01/2026, the following stores (Cinco Ranch, Aliana, Fulshear) will no longer need police officers due to the restructuring.
I do not know if the stores will be converting to third party or shutting down but figured it would be good to give employees a heads up to start getting their personal affairs in order.
Special bonus criteria
What criteria was used to either give 3 weeks or 4 weeks special bonus?
Let Go 1 Week Before Christmas
A colleague was just let go, one week before Christmas. We fall under the Enterprise Onboarding Platform. My team is already short staffed and will now be spread even thinner. SHAME ON YOU, BRAD OCKENE, DANA PARKS, AND ALL MANAGEMENT UNDER THEM WHO WERE COMPLIANT WITH THIS DECISION. Absolutely heartless.
AB SET TO CLOSE 3 BREWERIES
AB Closes 3 plants - Fairfield, Merrimack and Newark - Employees allegedly given opportunities at other breweries.
Toxic corporate environment - I know because I lived it.
Merry Christmas
To all the managers that are giving bogus reviews and letting people go before Christmas, rest well... You could be next! Your job can be moved offshore at any time too. Keep drinking the Kool-aid they are serving. They are NOT for the employees. It's all about GREED! Merry Christmas!!!
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Caroline Armour Visiting Lake Mary
Caroline (SVP) is visiting Lake Mary today. Anyone know the purpose of their visit a day prior to the last day of the folks affected by the layoffs? The leaders already look like they are putting on fake smiles and fake energy.
Layoffs Dec 19?
i actually heard this rumor! GRINCH!
Same leaders new positions in ISG and CSG
Dell is just moving the deck chairs around in the titanic for 2026. We’ve got the same leaders in ISG and CSG but in new positions because they’ve either laid off or the other good leaders quit or moved into different roles. Now we are stuck with the ignorant and arrogant. We are going to go through the same ideas but they’ll be “new” because they came from new, unqualified people who just have no business being in their roles. They way they got to them wasn’t by earning them but because people left or moved. Now we all have to deal with the “new” but not “new” ideas.
The realities are simple. We need better leadership. Leadership that’s not going to think they’re amazing but industry leaders with a real perspective on the industry.
Right now we’ve got a bunch of kids a$$ leaders who all have their own agenda. If you can leave in 2026 you should. It’s going to be a frustrating year.
BTW - hammer them on the eNPS.
DXC Exec strategy
The strategy is simple, keep making $500 - $750 million a year profit. Make the employees and other assets sweat to enable the Execs to make millions and enjoy other perks. Employ weak Exec froends who are not capable, Come up with fantasy themes like Cloud Right, Technical Debt, AI, Rebranding, musical chairs to keep employees and investors on board. Rinse and repeat for years.
This is what Dell has resorted to
Laid off a year ago after being there 15 years (EMC brought into Dell). I had a larger quota (20-30 million a half but I will admit I was semi over paid compared to market averages)...but I was lucky and was immediately employed by a competitor a week after posting up my looking for work banner on LinkedIN.
I wasn't replaced by Dell for a while and they finally got headcount or whatever to replace me and they did it with a guy fresh out of college. Turns out they couldn't get meetings or sell anything.
Now here is where it gets funny. Encouraged by his lesdership, the new kid has the nerve to reach out to me and ask me if I can introduce him to my old customers (bear in mind i'm his direct competitor now and he knows this). Absolutely laughable.
That is how they are running things now, I suppose.
Thank you for my packet of chocolate for the UK!
Please give the money to charity in the future instead of insulting your employees who have delivered everything for the company.
WTF!
I heard about this on our layoff page for my company and how y'all had 100,000 hits on one thread and like 4000 employees asking for your help. I came on here to look and didn't plan on commenting and wondered how y'all let this get this out of control and hurt so many of y'alls employees when this looks like an easy thing to do to gain y'alls employees trust again. Then I remembered the name of y'alls company and called my friend in our procurement and sure enough, y'all are a supplier. So now they are looking at this thinking they shouldn't be. Bless y'all but it seems like y'all should listed to your employees and take care of them. This is just not needed and it hurts what we call your 'brand'. SMH
Lots of friends and family are porting to TMO after the massacure
The strategy is not working so well to delight the customers. Don't CEOs realize that word of mouth via your worker bees is crucial to company success. Anyone else have friends jumping ship? I am not even bad mouthing VZ, this is all being done based on their own intentions from all the news about the RIF and knowing I was a casualty.
time to jump from the titanic
and jump on one of those little rafts way down below
i want to live good in 2026
staying at Dell in 2026 makes no sense at this point, time of change is here....
Member and provider medicare medicaid
I’d really like to hear your thoughts about our situation in this department. It’s important to me that we’re honest with each other. Do you think it would be better for us to move on as soon as we secure another job, or should we hold out for severance? I value your perspective.
Walgreens Benefit Fund
Ok, let me get this straight, Walgreens wants employees to donate to a fund to help under paid coworkers? Am I understanding this correctly? That can't be what it truly is. No company would expect its employees to make up the pay gap for them not paying their employees a living wage? Am I missing something or is Walgreens really that out of touch???
TR was the worst mistake of my career
Joined TR was promised growth opportunities. Came here and it’s nothing but chasing a carrot on a stick. Manager kept saying visibility etc but I felt like that was just an excuse to make me do more work. I have the work of a Lead but do not have the title or pay.
On top of this there is no internal mobility because guess what’s the cherry on top of the cake? They offshored 90 percent of jobs in my org for roles I’d consider because it’s cheaper! Thanks TR! Oh on top of this annual layoffs!
Does Ford ever make counteroffers?
I was just wondering if it's common here. When someone puts in their notice at Ford, does management ever try to get them to stay with a better offer on the spot? I haven't seen it happen to anyone on my team, but I know some other companies do it. I'm just curious if it's even a thing they consider.
CHC employees
Are there any CHC employees left or have they all been laid off?
Former FLNA ZBM/GTM Employee
Some thoughts on the recent letter that came out from Jen Wells (Chief People Officer, lol…). I am a former employee - I left the org to pursue a completely different career in the public sector six months ago and could not be happier.
I have been an RSR, DSL, ZBM, Change Leader among a few others during my decade+ with PepsiCo on the Frito side.
To those that know someone who, despite their great qualities, have been swept up in the layoffs: rejoice; everyone will feel a great weight lifted from their shoulders on their last day with company. The entirety of my career at PepsiCo was fraught with stress, sleepless nights, and fear of being punished for things completely out of my control.
I sacrificed a great deal for the organization at great personal cost - I know I’m not alone in this experience. Many times I felt I had to choose work over family, and for what? Chips? Ridiculous.
Even the minutia of missing a price tag in the market resulted a full blown 1:1 with a senior leader and a reprimanding.
The perspective of these spineless leaders to crack down on meaningless metrics is simply an admission that they do not know why the company continues to fall flat on its face. At the end of the day, when THEIR boss comes knocking, they can say “well look! I did X 1:1’s and sent all of these emails to make sure we executed in the market! It can’t be my fault!”
All this to say, leverage your resumes, don’t burn bridges with people you enjoyed working with, and support each other through the changes - they’re coming one way or another.
Best of luck - you’re better off without this place.
Annual bonus payout for voluntary separation
Will I receive the bonus for 2025 if I leave Ford in January 2026? Usually bonus is paid in March. Any of you have experience with this?
Are layoffs coming as soon as 1/7?
I’ve been hearing this date mentioned frequently. Can anyone confirm?
Are massive walk out rumors true?
Is anyone else hearing chatter about a potential massive walkout of PNC employees being organized at some point after there is an announcement about the 5 day return to work requirement?
New merit pools?
Can anyone confirm what these differences are in the remote vs hub merit pools? Does hub get more, or does remote just get less?
Do better South Carolina Verizon!
So my store was safe from those agent weirdos or whatever and that made me happy BUT Just found out we’re getting passed to another DM. That’s literally the fifth one in six months. Is this place actually a joke??
And of course, it’s her. She’s actually a total NPC. She acts like a robot and thinks leading by fear is a flex. It’s so so bad. She cares about nobody but herself.. I’ve dealt with her before and it’s a nightmare.
To make All this even worse daily I hear is 'layoffs this' and more closures that.' Honestly? I hope this new whole giant district exposes these incompetent “leaders” so they can finally see what it feels like to be just a number. Thought about spamming Dan’s stupid feedback thing but like he actually cares? Yeah right. Whatever. 2026 here we come
Hypocrisy
HC had a meeting to talk about feedback on the new policy and out of our 7 wealthy white SLT GP's FIVE were working from home, one was even taking the call from the car??? It's Tuesday, isn't Tuesday a required in office day? So for you marginalized peons with four kids working a part-time job because we don't even pay you enough, be in your seat from 8-5, we will do whatever we want.
Thoughts on leadership change?
Thoughts on our new leader in Medicare, Martin, coming from Amazon? Thoughts on our good old Aaron leaving us after 29 years’ of service?
Communications
Do we have a communications team? Do they help the senior leaders with their messaging? Sure seems like the answer is no. Employee messaging is terrible - inconsistent, inauthentic, and lacks humanity. What’s happening here?
More ISPs in Operations
Division meeting today just ended. T.P says more ISPs coming. No number given, just the same ole same ole "transformation" jargon. Also, 700 HBAs impacted by the new RTO policy. They did this knowing a lot of those folks will rage quit or simply not be able to do RTO, leading to termination. Why is EDJ leadership actively at war with the very people who make the company home office work? It sure as Sh1t aint the GPs pulling this wagon.
The schmoozing on the loop makes me want to gag
They mistreat employees and treat them like garbage all year and then thank everyone after layoffs too