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Stock based layoffs

Did we notice a pattern here in all tech layoffs ? lot of 1-3 year experienced who got joining stocks or stocks at executive range are thrown out. Same happened with Oracle and now with Meta.
We all know Oracle was faking around the hikes and promotions with just 2 words: Longevity and Stocks. Both are gone now.


Platform consolidation- layoffs

Management and supervisors have been given their marching orders. By July 1st they are to determine which employees will become business analysts with a 2% raise, which employees will remain in their current position with a 2-3% pay decrease and up to a 20% reduction in staff overall. Higher earners are expected to be fired first with a compensation package.


Extreme work and low pay

These id--ts remove remote work and expect software developers to work a lot for 75% of the average pay. They also expect you to do POCs and come up with all the solutions and lead new efforts like a software architect at a director level pay lol.
The expectations are delusional and ridiculous.


Another Form of Quiet Layoffs

Cutting bonuses drastically by raising metrics incrementally every year, until they're just out of reach. Q1 2026 quarterly bonus dropped $1500 for me compared to other quarters and my performance increased this year. The base isn't the best, so you have to rely on bonuses to make up for it. All that makes people want to do it put in less effort, which I'll be doing.


Don't waste time trying to advance career here

Was offered an internal position slightly below advertised salary on internal site & on LinkedIn. When I pushed back was told the pay range was "actually lower than advertised" - hm indicated the advertised rate was for midline to highest and I was told I can't qualify for midrange b/c the new grade was much higher than my current rank.

USB would NOT pay me for the role and job that I would be doing. They wanted to pay me off of my current salary & a certain % of the advertised midline - was firmly told no wiggle room that's how offers are made now.

Promptly declined and the manager seemed surprised. So I'm qualified enough for the job but don't deserve the pay? No thanks I'm not desperate. My next move will be to a better employer.


What happens to RSUs?

Can anyone elaborate on what happens with RSU's if you are currently getting package? I'm looking for specifics (in advance of next round) so I can plan accordingly. I'm assuming you just get the 60 days on payroll to vest but hoping they may forward vest some. Retirement eligible may be a variable also.

Thanks in advance. Good luck to all.


R2B more responsibilities less pay

R2B reps are getting hit extremely hard right now. They are expected to manage stores while also prospecting in both the R2B and B2B space. Meanwhile, compensation has been gutted to a fraction of what it once was through quota inflation and reduced payouts on products like tablets and connected devices.

The company wants these reps competing against full B2B teams for pennies on the dollar in compensation.

People are preparing to jump ship, and when that happens, the burden shifts onto customers, remaining employees, and Verizon business units trying to make up for the lost revenue and damaged relationships.

Business owners generally want to work with experienced, intelligent, laid back business managers who are compensated well enough to actually care about building long term relationships. Constant turnover destroys that trust.

What is happening feels incredibly short sighted. T Mobile and AT&T will be waiting like vultures to scoop up business from owners who are tired of losing their reps every few months.


401k match

I sort of forgot we only get a 3% match and then the cr-ppy additional match based on business results. Most other competitors do better than but we have a 'great comp package.' We struggle to get great talent in the door anymore because even our own TA teams are frustrated we keep getting turned down for not being competitive with our offers. ugh.


Critical roles have been a favorite target of layoffs

I guess that confirms a higher paycheck puts a target on your back. Fine. But why never any follow-up? There's a reason those people were paid more than the rest of us. It boggles the mind that management expects us to pick up work none of us actually knows how to do. I'm not acquiring a whole new skill set just to work more for the same pay.


Another $1.5 million down the drain

We have no money for you it belongs to the Execs.

DXC Technology reported that EVP, CES Venkataraman Ramanathan received an equity grant in the form of restricted stock units. The award covers 158,155 shares of common stock, granted at no cash cost per share as part of compensation.

Each RSU converts into one share of common stock when it vests. The RSUs are scheduled to vest in three equal annual installments beginning May 12, 2027, spreading the benefit over several years. After this award, Ramanathan holds a total of 244,935 shares of common stock, including unvested RSUs.


VZ paid $65 million to Schulman Vestburg

Dan Schulman made 34.3 million in 3 months in 2025 :He only became CEO on October 4, 2025 — so he earned most of that in just 3 months as CEO. Here's how:He received a $9.5 million RSU grant upfront just to compensate him for pay he forfeited when he left a prior investment firm to take the Verizon job. Then a $20 million RSU grant vesting in 2027, plus a $30 million PSU grant tied to performance — all loaded in at the start. Add his $1.5 million base salary and a short-term bonus target of 250% of base salary, prorated for the portion of 2025 he was CEO , and you get to $34.3 million fast.The CEO Hans Vestberg collected $31.2 million in 2025 compensation. So Verizon paid two CEOs over $65 million combined in the same year it laid off 13,000 workers.The system that allows this:The board sets pay. The board is elected by shareholders. But in practice, executive compensation committees at major corporations benchmark pay against other large companies — creating a ratchet where CEO pay only goes up, regardless of performance. Schulman got paid to leave his last job and came in loaded with equity from day one, before proving anything.
So to directly answer your question: he made $34.3 million largely through upfront equity grants and a golden hello — not because he earned it through results. The results come later, if they come at all.


Citi will always be technically behind so long as other banks (Wells F, JPM, PNC) are willing to pay more.

Oh sure, Citi pull out what they think is a big win by luring in some major director from other banks here and there. They make sure that hits the headlines but as you can see, they don’t stay very long.

Its a money shell game. These guys move from company to company for more money each time they move. They have no interest in making Citi a home.


RIDICULOUS NCR ATLEOS MERITS IN SERBIA

They have lost all moral respect for human beings .. They feel that giving people a $20 and or 30 $ merit increase per month is going to make someone satisfied and or work in the office ? Has this company lost its mind? The huge CAMPUS that they built in Belgrade only 5 years ago , and now giving people $20 raises per month? Are they serious? They are looking to pay for the same positions a salary that they were paying 12 years ago .. .They are still trying to pay people in Belgrade $800 a month... That story has sailed... Then from what everyone heard is they fired the president of the Labor Union in Belgrade just so the top players could run the company.. This company has become criminal . All people are doing now is coming into the office and socializing all day ... what a waste of work force .. Then again while the GM in Serbia and his buddies are all profiting while they can ... not sure what is going on but people cant live on a $20 pay increase.. this is so low .. this company should be prosecuted


Think like an owner. OK, here we go.

As an owner, I know this is a good company with kind, and capable people who are victims. The teams are carrying a huge burden, and living in fear, but the real issue is leadership. The company has become top heavy with expensive SVPs, slow to act, disconnected from customers and value, and incapable of executing with clarity or urgency or even working together. And whenever we hire a new person to lead, strategy shifts and we start all over, or worse they come up with the exact same plan that the old team did, but that leadership were too blind or paralyzed to execute on. For the last 5-6 years, there has been almost no meaningful customer context at the executive level, and even now there is a visible disconnect between leadership’s new direction and what CDW actually does in the market to create value.

Proof? The Overall messaging is weak. The company struggles to articulate or sell new solutions with confidence. Marketing has become performative instead of effective. Internal politics, favoritism, and executive empire-building are rewarded while execution suffers. Consultants swarm the business looking for problems to solve while accountability disappears, and we are slowed down. Teams compete internally instead of aligning externally against the market. Fundamental operational discipline, blocking and tackling has largely vanished. Stock is a perfect reflection of reality. We were given the shot.

An equally concerning problem is that too many leaders are learning the business while running it. A top strategy executive from a bloated fire alarm company with stock performance almost as bad as CDW’s. A CMO from a car dealership with no meaningful B2B expertise. A former C level executive from a second rate department store. A sales leader from an HR leadership role. A Bain person running partners and acquisition integration, now c suite strategy. And it goes on, throughout the organization. Customers can feel it. Employees can feel it. The market can feel it. Partners scratch their heads and wonder when it’s going to implode. You people literally have no respect in our market. We apologize for you on every call. Now, we are losing credibility by even working here. Destination workplace? .

At some point, there have to be consequences and structural change at the top instead of another round of resets and reorganizations.

Here is what should happen, thinking like an owner:
• Name a new CEO immediately, even on an interim basis. Anyone would be better than a stock in freefall with no plan. Alternatively, appoint a President with full operational authority from a competitor, or internally, who knows how we create value, is respected and has run these businesses. The organization needs visible leadership and accountability now, not eventually.
• Any executive who cannot hold a credible customer conversation about the company’s core business and solutions should be visibly removed in a layoff. We are better off knowing you were fired, in order to regain respect for you leaders and ourselves. This is not an academic exercise. If leaders do not understand customers relative to our CDW value, they should not be leading any customer-touching organizations.
• Standardize technical and AI enablement across the company using actual vendor ecosystems, proven customer conversations and market platforms just like our peers, not internally manufactured abstractions disconnected from reality created by the burglar alarm team. Everyone should know the stacks, the tools, and the customer use cases. Everyone should be able to prove it.
• Align sales compensation to strategic outcomes, not just individual revenue extraction. The current model rewards personal economics over company transformation.
• Stop socializing executive compensation across broad leadership layers. Compensation should be tied directly to measurable departmental outcomes and execution quality. If I am doing well, don’t penalize me for a weak link i cannot control. Or I will leave, like many other effective leaders have.
• Expand equity participation broadly across employees instead of concentrating upside only at the top. The people doing the work should share in the value creation. They will be loyal and work harder, and be able to actually hold each other accountable as owners. And we will do better as a whole.
• Reduce consultant dependence dramatically, or to zero. If the business cannot operate without armies of external advisors, leadership has already failed.
• Re-establish operational fundamentals: accountability, execution speed, customer intimacy, and cross-functional alignment. Reduce red tape at all costs. AI isn’t enough. Mentality has to shift.

Finally, leadership credibility and employee loyalty requires you make shared sacrifice right now, and it should also be very public. If performance, growth, execution, and customer confidence are all materially off-track, CEO and EVP compensation should reflect that reality. That’s CEO, CFO, COO, CHRO, CCO, CSSO. Accountability cannot only exist for the people lower in the organization. No pay until we are fixed. If you don't like it, please leave or don't expect any respect. Step up and lead.


More for Him, Less for Everyone Else: Five Years of Waters Corporation

Since Udit Batra took over as President and CEO of Waters Corporation in September 2020, his total compensation has risen approximately 146% - from $5.7 million in his first partial year to $14 million in 2025 - while the company’s financial performance has largely stagnated. Revenue grew modestly from $2.37 billion in 2020 to $2.96 billion in 2024, a rise of around 25%, and net income actually declined from its 2022 peak of $708 million to $638 million in 2024. The most glaring disconnect came in 2023–2024, when earnings were flat to negative yet Batra received a 27.6% pay increase. Over the same period, the company’s workforce has shrunk. After growing to a peak of 8,200 employees in 2022, Waters cut roughly 328 jobs in a formal 2023 layoff round - approximately 4% of global headcount - and has continued to shed staff, ending 2024 at 7,600 employees, a net reduction of around 700 from the peak and below where the company stood when Batra arrived. Batra himself has cited the headcount reductions as a management success, pointing to flatter org structures and tighter spans of control, while employee reviews describe a culture of ongoing layoffs, increased workloads, suppressed pay, and leadership disconnected from the workforce. In sum, Waters under Batra presents a picture of a CEO whose compensation has substantially outpaced both the company’s financial results and the fortunes of its employees.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​


Oracle Layoffs Spark Employee Conflict Over Compensation

Oracle laid off approximately 20,000 employees globally earlier this year. Former workers are now disputing the severance terms and forfeited stock grants. Many lost significant unvested equity, with one employee losing nearly $1 million. Concerns also include WARN Act protections and remote worker classification. Oracle reportedly declined to negotiate better terms despite employee petitions.

https://www.peoplematters.in/news/strategic-hr/oracle-cut-20000-jobs-now-employees-are-fighting-over-lost-stock-worth-nearly-dollar1-million-49657


State Farm Defined:

Corporations often experience high turnover due to toxic culture, inadequate compensation, limited career growth, and, according to discussions on Reddit, unrealistic sales targets. Key drivers include burnout, poor management, and a lack of recognition, which prompt employees to leave for better opportunities, as discussed in this LinkedIn post and detailed by AIHR and Indeed.