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This is what they are watching

I am expecting more layoffs. I have no insider info. I feel that they are going to keep pushng in the same direction. This means job cuts.

Lookat the stock price. It has gone up several times over since 2023, and guess what else started happening around then? The employee count began dropping hard. That is not a coincidence.

The stock price is what they are watching. it's not our frustration stress & complaints. Not our objections to RTO. Not 100s of posts about loyalty. Nah, not workload too. None of that matters when the number they care about keeps moving in the direction they want.

And now they are starting to believe AI can make human labor worth less than it is today. I hope that is wrong. I really do. I am almost certain it will not. But it sure feels like that is where this is headed.


RTO will ruin my advancement opportunities

Bill’s talking about how RTO will help teammates further their careers, etc, but that’s 100% NOT TRUE if there are no advancement opportunities in your line of work in your geographic location. I was hired to work remotely and at that time my advancement opportunities were open (or at least more open than they are now) because Truist was OK with remote work. Now I have to go into an office that has nowhere for me to grow, OR I have to move to a more expensive city that will eat up any difference in salary I might get with a promotion. The lack of leadership’s acknowledgment of this impact is so disappointing.


RTO attrition

How will RTO be used in place of a layoff? The managers in my group don’t even show up all the time and take a lot of PTO during connect weeks.

I assume nothing will really happen to managers but what will the trickle down impact will this have on their teams? I assume managers are also nagged about their attendance?


Been quiet

I wish I knew who I could rant to but I'm way too careful about sharing my work-place political views. RTO has totally uprooted my life from cost of childcare, time wasted on commute, routine, and even my work itself. Talk about being more efficient, eh? Literally cannot get the same amount of work done if im being pulled in 12 different directions each day just to make sure im doing my work from one spot and not another i.e my home. What a super cool and awesome thing this all is. The only thing that motivates me more than getting yelled at for "non-compliance" is SPITE. You want me to quit? No thanks. However, with my flexibility now gone, there goes yours as well. Taking calls after hours? No. 110% effort? Try 50. It's been said before but dear lord what are they thinking? THOUSANDS of employees with FOUR MONTHS time to get read for the dreaded RTO yet ZERO MF GUIDELINES?

The guidelines are vague by design, because they want us to assume what the rules are. I dont want to tell others what to do but please dont make this easy on them. Most of our positions were originally based around a hybrid schedule from the get-go.


Employee quits after company forces 5-day office return, manager regrets it a month later

Companies may be able to enforce attendance policies, but they cannot force genuine engagement or loyalty. When businesses prioritize rigid systems over practical realities and employee trust, they often risk losing their most valuable people.

https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/rules-are-rules-employee-quits-after-company-forces-5-day-office-return-manager-regrets-it-a-month-later/amp_articleshow/130970516.cms


Profound build out and planning

To have a modern workforce, nimble, ready to work at anytime and anywhere, and now they return us to our father’s old fashioned office drudgery.
We aren’t “liberated” we’re back to being pawns and cogs whatever you want to call it!
All that investment in tech just to have it wasted with commutes into the office wasting time on traffic on delayed subways or the MBTA commuter rail.
“We’ve come a long way baby”
Fools oops you didn’t think licking us down for three years in Massachusetts would have a deleterious effect to the local economy real estate and restaurants?!!
Now six years into it all of a sudden it’s back to work slave.


RTO 100% for Locked laptops (kensington T-bars) powered on at various hubs

It is an open secret that many employees across major hubs—including Hopkins—are navigating the RTO mandate by doing the bare minimum, coming in person for few hours/two days a week, leaving laptops on Monday locked with Kensington T-Bar laptop Lock ($15) at or under a desks overnight to simulate presence, and take them off on Thursday or Friday. They all got 100% RTO compliance for last 4-5 months given RTO enforcement uses IP address tracking which is also our OFFICIAL "Talent" and "Performance" Metric for year 2026 (no other company or bank has this metric).

It’s an open secret that most employees hit 60-100% compliance while they were actually working from home, just by using U.S.bank Teams (attend meetings from home) and Outlook (compose reply emails) all from mobile phones at home or elsewhere (Hawaii vacation). I myself tried last month at Knoxville and yes it worked, but made sure to just get 60% RTO compliance so I do not get caught, but surprised to see many doing it without any fear.

Question: Why did Gunjan approved this ineffective 60% RTO compliance by our D-MB SEVP-HR with IP tracking as performance metric? What were she thinking? Is Gunja equally D-MB - like the CXO suite mocks her?


RTO

If anyone from management or HR is reading this, please don’t change our current WPE policy. BAC does not give compensation increases to majority of the workforce. Flexibility is the one thing keeping us going. If you want people to quit, it will be the wrong people. Seriously an employer who wants to continue to have a flexible 3 days in office schedule.


Are Companies Using RTO Rules to Fire People With Cause and Avoid Severance?

A Reddit post in r/bell claims that Bell has been firing employees “with cause” for not returning to the office three days a week, allegedly with no severance and no prior warning.

One commenter, who says they were terminated, argues that this is unfair because they were working from their designated office two days a week plus another Bell office on a third day most weeks. They also claim they worked more than the standard 37.5 hours per week and had strong performance reviews.

Their main argument is that, while companies can set return-to-office rules, terminating someone “with cause” should normally require progressive discipline first, such as a verbal warning, written warning, suspension, and then termination, unless the behavior qualifies as severe misconduct. They argue that simply not being in the designated office three days a week, or “coffee badging,” should not automatically count as severe misconduct unless the employee is also failing to work their required hours, which could be considered time theft.

Overall, the discussion is about whether companies are using RTO enforcement as a way to terminate employees without severance, and whether missing office-day requirements should legally or ethically justify a “for cause” dismissal.


Benefit Changes next year

Hope everyone is ready. VP here from LEGACY (not Heritage) TSYS... benefits will be changing next year. Expect changes with time off packages, 401K match, hybrid work (full RTO), and substantial increase in Healthcare costs. You heard it here first.

This company is a total mess. Precisely why I am included in the next RIF in July.


Here’s what’s weird about RTO

Of course it’s not about collaboration. But companies are worse than pre covid with the on office stuff. I know someone at another company that said a senior manager sits by the door to see who is leaving “early”. Like 5 minutes early. Seriously what is going on? All the big companies are doing it. Spending money monitoring stuff that you thought went away in the early 2000s.


Once again, blanket anti-WFH, mandatory RTO isnt going to fly EEOC EEOC Disability Discrimination Lawsuit

Scharf's mandatory RTO against the disabled has created a MASSIVE unforced liability for the company.

EEOC is prosecuting companies that issue these blanket mandates.

https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/fedex-pay-280000-eeoc-disability-discrimination-lawsuit

In the lawsuit, the EEOC charged that in February 2023, FedEx failed to accommodate several dispatchers’ requests to continue working from home and demanded the dispatchers’ return to its downtown Manhattan office, effectively forcing at least one into retirement. The employee, and other disabled dispatchers, previously performed dispatcher duties remotely and successfully for nearly three years. According to the suit, FedEx denied continued telework based on an alleged operational need to have all its dispatchers work in the office and failed to engage with its disabled dispatchers to find alternative accommodations.

“This case serves as a reminder that employers should not take a blanket approach to telework accommodations and should take care to engage in individualized assessments,” said Kimberly A. Cruz, regional attorney for the EEOC’s New York District Office. “Changing the location where work is performed may fall under the ADA’s reasonable accommodation requirements, even if the employer does not allow other employees to telework.”

Such alleged conduct violates the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which prohibits an employer from failing to reasonably accommodate an employee’s qualifying disability, absent undue hardship. The EEOC filed suit in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York (EEOC v. Federal Express Corporation d/b/a FedEx Express, Civil Action No. 1:25-cv-00454) after first attempting to reach a pre-litigation settlement through its conciliation process.

Arlean Nieto, acting director of the EEOC’s New York District Office, said, “The EEOC is committed to enforcing the ADA and holding employers accountable for denying reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities.”


Site visits are no longer visible to you or leaders? WTF does that even mean?

The morning ODW went live, workday was still functional for a few hours... Logged into that and it said that site visit dashboards were being retired.

On the official RTO policy page, it states...

"bla bla bla fluff... While attendance will not be actively shared at individual or leader level, this expectation is non-negotiable." - Ok but what exactly does "leader" mean? Direct manager/director? Or execs?

WTF does that even mean? Why can't we see our own site visits? What harm has that done? Leader as in our direct manager, or is it execs as well?

I already keep an excel spreadsheet tracking my own site visits + PTO days because I don't trust the badge readers but why tf would they take those dashboards away anyways?

Maybe it's so managers can't see and warn those who aren't going in often enough? idfk bro..

I genuinely don't think Dell will EVER straight up say "site visits are no longer being tracked" because 99% of people would quit showing up lol. So I can't help but wonder if the wording is purposely confusing to make people think it's being tracked still?


The layoff: My two cents

This has left a bad taste in my mouth for Fidelity. I got laid off yesterday, I'm a scrum master in Brokerage, L5. It makes sense to me that I was let go because I was one of the only two scrum masters in my chapter that were L5, nonetheless it was still a kick in the chest to get the news. But, I'm surprised Fidelity announced RTO just last week then this happened. If they were smart they should have announced RTO long before and waited for natural selection to kick in to have people leave on their own terms. But who am I to say?

Good luck to everyone else impacted, I hope you find the good in this as I do as well.


All that panic

All those posts reporting bl oo d baths
All the hysteria
1000 cuts is SOP
The real issue moving forward is RTO less flexibility. How will we be punished if we can’t make it in due to extraneous circumstances?
I heard many ppl complaining this week is there truth to the rumors that they may tweak it? Or is that just wishful thinking?


State of Disunion @TheTrustedDisruptor

  1. Loans taken to cover payroll. All that LHXNext savings still can't stop the debt created implosion.
  2. Accelerating the full transformation into the ENRON of the defense industry.
  3. 160 hours vacation and sick combined cap being enforced in certain businesses. Director level approval required above 160 hours combined.
  4. Auto rejection of planned sick or vacation leave if not provided with enough advance notice. Override requires manager and second level approval.
  5. Rolling layoffs still occurring.
  6. Stock price down $70 from recent high of around $370. Currently around $300.
  7. Insider selling accelerating.
  8. RTO harassment still occurring even with commuting costs skyrocketing due to fuel spikes.
  9. Outsourced IT company not getting paid due to cash flow issues. Leads to more service outages and lack of support.
  10. Morale has hit a new low. Parking lots emptying rapidly after 5 PM. Only time I've ever seen people leave faster was after a 4 hr college chemistry lab was over.

Please comment with additional information regarding the state of dysfunction @ L3H


Honestly, is it even worth staying?

I know it's exactly what these knuckle-heads want from us, but I just can't tell if this RTO B.S. will come back around or not. I don't make nearly enough to be spending extra money on gas just to sit in virtual meetings! I know many of ya'll are in the same boat as me. But what about the Mgrs, any news on RTO? Its been months and all we've heard was ZIP.


Hantavirus: BNY RTO Policies and Associate Concerns Over Workplace Protection

BNY keeps pushing RTO 4 days/week and open‑desk seating like nothing in the world has changed, while employees are left wondering whether leadership has even skimmed the latest CDC guidance on workplace exposure risks. The CDC may not mandate hantavirus controls, but it’s clear about best practices: identify and control rodent presence, seal workspaces, improve ventilation, use PPE when needed, and restrict work for exposed or symptomatic employees. OSHA’s general duty clause still applies — employers must provide a workplace free from recognized hazards. Rodent‑borne pathogens qualify.

Many employees in the Jersey City office in particular have reported concerns on this forum regarding concerns of rat infestation and control.

So here’s the question employees keep asking: Will BNY communicate anything at all? Will they adjust RTO, restrict open‑desk seating, or even acknowledge that shared workspaces increase exposure risks? Or will they continue the pattern — silence, spin, and “business as usual” — while employees shoulder the health risks?

With the recent cruise ship outbreak and the 2025 death of actor Gene Hackman's wife and dog, people are concerned and fearful, especially given current RTO policies.

BNY has a stewardship responsibility, not just a shareholder one. If state or local OSHA programs tighten requirements, the bank won’t be able to hide behind “CDC guidance is voluntary.” And even now, nothing stops BNY from adopting the CDC’s recommendations as a basic duty of care.

People aren’t asking for miracles. They’re asking for transparency, updated safety protocols, and a realistic assessment of whether RTO makes sense when exposure risks — viral or otherwise — are rising.

Until leadership addresses these concerns directly, employees are left to wonder whether workplace safety is a priority or just another line item to downplay.


Tough to swallow but true

I believe Verizon needs to continue building a stronger market-driven culture focused on performance, accountability, and long-term competitiveness. That means making difficult decisions when necessary, including reducing redundant positions and streamlining teams to stay agile in a rapidly changing industry. A stronger return-to-office policy is also important because in-person collaboration improves communication, training, innovation, and team culture in ways remote work simply can’t fully replace. If Verizon wants to compete and grow, the company has to prioritize efficiency, execution, and a workplace culture centered on results.


Familiar Strangers...

Theres a phrase i keep hearing around Fidelity lately.,. usually said quietly between meetings ... or dropped into side conversations when nobody senior is around... "this place aint what it used to be." i don’t even think people say it with anger anymore. mostly it sounds tired. like people have repeated it enough times that it stopped feeling dramatic and just became accepted reality. Ive been here long enough to remember when fidelity actually felt different, and no, i’m not pretending it was some magical workplace where everybody skipped through hallways smiling at each other because obviously it wasn’t... nope. there were always POLITICS, red-tape/bureaucracy, sh-t leaders, pointless meetings, all of that existed back then too... but there used to be this fine sense that leadership at least understood employees were human beings first and workers second. there was a ton of fu--ing pressure, absolutely! but there was also trust... We all felt like they were contributing to something stable. Managers could actually manage. we believed hard work mattered. loyalty certainly mattered. relationships mattered and were meaningful. now it feels like everybody spends half their day trying to decode silence instead of listening to actual communication...

The communnication piece is probably what changed the most. Every reorg comes wrapped in this crazy vague language. Every Townhall somehow manages to say nothing (while making everybody more anxious and pi---d at the same time). Lies galore. Official updates feel so carefully polished that people stopped trusting them many, many, many years ago. you can literally feel employees trying to read between the lines during leadership calls because nobody believes they’re getting the full story anymore. and maybe leadership thinks uncertainty protects the business, maybe they think controlled messaging prevents panic, i don’t know... but what actually happens is people create their own explanations. Rumors (and all these posts on layoffs.com) become more believable than official statements because at least rumors feel emotionally honest... Morale drops because employees feel trapped in this permanent state of ambiguity where nobody knows what’s happening until it’s already happening. some of the strongest mgrs i know look completely drained and fu---d up now. They’re expected to reassure teams about decisions they had no role in making. they deliver messaging they clearly don’t believe in themselves. Not a little bit... Middle management at Fidelity increasingly feels like emotional shock absorbers for exec decisions...

then there’s the RTO situation... which I think broke something culturally that execs still dont fully grasp. this was never just about commuting. that’s the part they seem to miss every single time they talk about collaboration and culture and hallway conversations and whatever other corp sh-t buzzword gets recycled that quarter!! during hybridwork, people rebuilt their lives around the expectations the co itself created... families adjusted. people moved. some employees finally found balance after years of burnout... it was something new. and the thing that frustrates people most is we already proved the work could get done. productivity stayed as high as it's ever been. teams just worked, things clicked... clients were supported and notobdy was complaining... bus performance remained strong.. then suddenly the messaging changed, but leadership rarely explained why. instead we got carefully managed language, vague references to culture, soft pressure, badge tracking, attendance monitoring, and this growing feeling that presence became more important than contribution again. people notice when trust quietly gets replaced with surveillance...

what makes all of this harder to swallow is that fidelity is still successful. the company performs well. leadership talks about growth constantly. and yet employees feel less secure than ever?? that disconnect changes people over time. you start seeing high performers emotionally detach because they realize performance alone no longer creates safety. long tenured employees feel disposable. loyal employees feel disposable. everybody starts understanding that no matter how much they contribute, they’re still ultimately just another line item during workforce planning discussions somewhere behind closed doors. and once employees internalize that reality, culture shifts permanently. people stop investing emotionally and stap talking truthfully. we preserve energy for life outside work because deep down they no longer believe the company will protect them in return. i don’t even blame them anymore.......

the strange thing is the best part of fidelity still exists, and it’s mostly the people working beside each other every day. coworkers still help each other. teams still carry impossible workloads together. managers still quietly shield employees when they can. some of the most thoughtful, intelligent, genuinely decent people i’ve ever worked with are still here, trying their best inside a culture that increasingly feels transactional and emotionally distant. ironically, i think peer level empathy is the only thing keeping parts of this company functioning normally right now. NOT the culture slides... also - not the branding campaigns. not another executive speech about values. just exhausted people trying to support other exhausted people while pretending everything feels normal...

Maybe that’s what makes this whole thing feel sad instead of angry.

Cause I still want Fidelity to succeed. I think a lot of us do. People don’t spend this much time talking about cultural decline unless they actually cared about what the place used to represent. i just think there’s a growing number of us grieving a version of the company that made them feel human before operational... and once that feeling is gone, it’s impossible to rebuild no matter how many internal campaigns or leadership videos get released afterward...

long post huh. no matter what, i wish all the best and hope that, somehow, things will improve.


When Leadership Stays Silent, This Forum Becomes the Only Truth Source

Posts on this site are personal reactions to what BNY employees are actually living through.

The feedback here is about executive leadership’s silence around McKinsey‑driven cost restructuring, real‑estate closures and consolidations, RTO used as a filtering mechanism, and a culture that’s become increasingly toxic and opaque. People aren’t imagining this; they’re documenting it in real-time.

When raises and bonuses are insignificant, when communication is intentionally vague, and when “efficiency” becomes a euphemism for unannounced layoffs, employees are going to talk — especially when leadership won’t. That’s why this forum looks the way it does. It’s not about traffic or ad revenue. It’s because BNY associates have nowhere else to get honest information about what’s happening behind the curtain.

If leadership communicated transparently, this board wouldn’t have to do the job for them.


Monitoring Badge Swipes

It finally happened today: my supervisor told me I was on “the list” for not swiping my badge enough.

I pointed out the irony that we’re raising product prices because of higher oil costs, yet somehow there’s never any corresponding increase in cost-of-living adjustments for us peons.


Just had to stop therapy after 4 years

Long story short: After a long time of searching I finally found the right therapist for me, and was reassured that RTO couldn't interfere with my appointments. Well sure enough, my manager allows me to leave the office for my appointments, but the real issue is having to commute basically 4 times just to continue seeing my therapist. I literally cannot afford it. Thank you Bill.


Was old Mac RTO data fixed?

My Mac RTO data was improved for old months. The only thing is I can't tell if they actually fixed the data problems or just restored preexisting badge swipe data for older months since they couldn't figure out a Mac data fix. Does anyone know?


Mbta commuter rail is heavily used by Fidelity employees

It’s falling apart 45 min delay due to equipment shortage
And now they expect us to come in everyday?
I’ll be dead outside waiting for a train this won’t work.
Do they not see the impact with cars on the roads in the parking lot the mbta being useless!
She needs to get Maura involved. Maybe Maura can fix it.

lol yea right and vrabel didn’t cheat on his wife


Fidelity Mandates Five-Day Office Return for Many Staff

Fidelity Investments will require many employees to return to the office five days a week. This new policy begins in September for staff at its Boston headquarters and other locations. Managers at the vice president level and above are also included across all company sites. Previously, most employees worked two weeks in the office out of every four. The company believes physical presence fosters connection, mentorship, and learning.

Boston, Massachusetts

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/04/30/newsletters/fidelity-return-to-office-five-days-boston/


Why still no assigned desks yet??

They have done RTO since what 2023/4? We are now in 2026 and they still haven’t assigned people to desks. I don’t understand how they can continue to play games with their employees legally. I know the question was asked several times during town halls and they always punted the answer down the road. I just understand why they insist on making things like Last Man Standing. Just curious if they can be sued and forced into assigning seats to people