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So what happens at review time when you have a hierarchy conflict?

Engineers rolling up to a Supv who rolls up to a Sr Mgr who also has engineers as direct reports. If leaders get one “5” to hand out, who does it go to? Does the Supervisor even get a shot at giving them to their direct reports, or will Sr Mgr get one and hog it for themselves?


Verizon is following AT&T’s 2020 VISION, announced 7 years later.

AT&T employees were informed 2016-2017 about the 2020 Vision cutting 1/3 of the workforce by 2020, and no manager having less than 10 direct reports.

Verizon is cutting 25% of the workforce by 2027 (does that mean there’s another 10% left to cut?), and no managers with less than 7-8 direct reports.


managers, what's your plan for dealing with this?

If I was an individual contributor it might be easier to focus on the work by day while preparing a job search at night. But I have direct reports looking to me for clarity, people who are worried and hoping for answers, raises, and promotions. Meantime all I know comes from the news and these boards. I don’t understand the rationale behind leaking layoff targets to the press (again) and being asked (again) to carry on as normal for the next two months while trust erodes.