Wondering if there could be lawsuits against SAP for discriminating offering VERP based on different ages. In the U.S, VERP is offered to those 59 and above, in Canada it's 58 and above and in Germany it's 55 and above. Would these lawsuits hold... — read more
When can we expect another wave?
Anyone who thinks that this is a sole wave and who survived is safe now, is being naive. So my question is when can we expect a second wave? Maybe they will try to do it in smaller portions and in a longer period of time, avoiding the sensation of an... — read more
HR has handled this so poorly
HR has handled this so poorly. Case in point: an emploee on leave to bury a parent laid off while sitting at the funeral home (yes, said employee asked to reschedule the meeting and told HR why), an employee promoted 3 weeks before has their job... — read more
Second Round?
Now that US VERP have declared, is anyone hearing about a second round to make the target number? Does anyone have a POV on Bill’s last Friday call with VP+?
Everything was driven by costs
Over 10 years in SAP Asia as an employee here. Had started with dedication and loyalty to a quality company, with that constant tension between Engineering and Sales, but things were still ok, customers were the focus. BUT it changed. Last few years... — read more
How is the last work day determined in the US?
What were you told is your last day?
How can firing employees and keeping managers be productive?
Maybe I'm oversimplifying the whole situation, but it’s a fact that almost all of the laid off employees were not management of any kind, but “regular” employees. How the hell can trimming the number of those who bring actual value to the company and... — read more
Severence package in india
Hi, Does any one knows what is the severence package sap is offering in India, i got to know that in Singapore it is 1 month for every year spent in sap, in US it is 2 weeks. if someone brought car from car lease policy, should we have to buy it if... — read more
https://e3zine.com/2019/03/15/the-layoff-sap-destroying-itself/amp/
https://e3zine.com/2019/03/15/the-layoff-sap-destroying-itself/amp/
Goodbye HANA and ABAP
https://www.cmswire.com/information-management/a-tale-of-two-saps/ “SAP has decided to undertake a company-wide restructuring program in 2019 across all board areas... SAP currently estimates that globally approximately 4,400 employees across all... — read more
EMEA, you are next
This is really painful, these last 2 weeks have been harrowing to all of us who have to work and deal with the emotional wrecks of those who are affected. But the end is not here yet. EMEA is next... — read more
Can I get laid off while I’m on sick leave?
I know it’s illegal to co cut a worker while he is on sick leave, but as I watch these SAP layoffs from my bed i can’t help but to wonder will I be called into the conference room the first they that I’m back to work, and on top of all my problems... — read more
Oracle headlines today. SAP be warned
MARCH 15, 2019 Imagine you’re running a venerable industrial company that’s been around for decades, is entrenched with its customers, and has a reputation for operational excellence. You’ve just made $2.7 billion in one quarter on sales of $9.6... — read more
HR Issues
The way how SAP HR is managing the layoff process here in the US is just bad - it's substandard and it's borderline unprofessional. The communication is lacking, the journey is fuzzy and the rumors swirling in the office are mind boggling. I am... — read more
Downhill journey is thrilling
I have grabbed a big bag of chips and comfortably sitting on couch waiting for the final fireworks to start. SAP has succumbed to the pressure of stock markets. Top leaders cannot think beyond super short term goals, just get some material for... — read more
Do not sign the severance agreement!!
You are worth more than 2 weeks pay. This is a joke! Most companies give 6 months minimum. I have applied to 3 jobs so far and each asked: Have you signed any Non-disclosure agreements? Have you signed any Non-compete agreements? Don’t throw away... — read more
I suspect the terrible leaders in my org, with zero leadership experience, will stay because this is how SAP operatesG
Who is making the decisions? The same incompetent people who make decisions about our products. I was delusional to believe I was joining a technology company. This is not a tech company and does not operate intelligently as such. When I got in I... — read more
Will they from new groups now?
The majority of my group was hit, and that leave us in a state in which it is impossible to do our jobs, while we’re in this form. So, what next? Are they gonna hire new people to make the groups operable? Will they form new groups or merge some of... — read more
Some good advice here
Since we know most of the people being laid off or at risk of being laid off are older employees, I thought this might end up being useful for at least some here. How Older Employees Can Protect Against Layoffs & Forced Retirement... — read more
fleet card limit
Is there any limit on the fleet card for buying windshield washer fluid or better some high performance motor oil? It might be worth buying a higher amount before being fired. What's your opinion?
When will it finally end?
I'm tired of losing sleep every night because I'm worried about layoffs and whether my job will still be there tomorrow or the day after. This needs to end, now.
Severance package in the EU
I heard that people in the EU get a severance package with 4 weeks for every year. If you had a company car you get it for the half price. Is that true?
80 employees at the Singapore SSC impacted
I am hearing that 80 employees at the Singapore SSC impacted. Their roles/groups are being moved to the EXISTING Manila SSC. Unsure if 1) the 80 is accurate and 2) that covers every group working out of the Singapore SSC. Shocked that they are doing... — read more
SAP needs less mushy inspiration and far more innovation
Why cut development anywhere at SAP? SAP should be doubling down on development such that sales people are no longer needed, that is that the software solutions are compelling enough to sell themselves. Alas, the SAP CEO is a glad handing sales guy... — read more
Should I retract VERP acceptance?
It looks like those who did not accept VERP will get it anyway (4 weeks as opposed to 2 for younger people laid off). I have signed the waiver but I have until 3/18 to retract it. I guess if I did, it wouldn’t affect my payout and I would still be... — read more
Layed off many of the Palo Alto HANA team? Is HANA still SAP's crown jewel? What is the HANA strategy now?
I am so surprised that so many people have been layed off from the HANA team. From execs all the way down to developers and PM's. How can this be? I thought HANA was core to SAP's future?... — read more
Why stretch this out like this?
Looks like layoffs are still ongoing. Why? Why not do all the layoffs at once? Why torture us like this? This is just cruel from SAP - which honestly surprises me since I like this place, I enjoy working here and I didn't think leadership possible of... — read more
Who makes these decisions?
I'm honestly curious to find out who decides which people are laid off. It's not somebody who knows these employees, what they do, or how good they are at it - that much is obvious. I'm assuming this is strictly about numbers - so it's some number... — read more
New hirings. Should we be worried?
There was a significant wave of new hirings at my location last week. What I find to be worrying in this story is the fact that the new hires were given jobs with similar or the same description as some of us in the group have. I found that as an... — read more
Run Simple (cut the knowledgable Employees)
ANZ has had quite a caning as well - SF team, Dev Ops, Customer Serivce, HCP, Hana. Not sure of the full extent.
Internal transfer
A colleague used to be the same team as mine was let go in 2017 lay-off, he made an internal transfer to SuccsessFactors support by downgrading from T3 to T2. He was shown the door again in this round with the entire team.
Any signs that we could see that indicate we’re being cut?
Is there any way we can anticipate our layoff? Does anything happen before? Different behaviour of your manager, not getting new projects or anything similar? Is a layoff even possible to anticipate?
The path of least resistance
Fairness is not included in criteria for layoffs - many teams with very qualified knowledgeable experienced individuals were included in these layoffs. Agree layoffs especially in countries with lesser laws protecting the employees are used to reduce... — read more
LinkedIn Promotion Strategy
I'd like to see if someone can chime in on good LinkedIn promotion strategies. I was laid off last week and I'd like to find a decent job - I hope LinkedIn can help but not even sure where to start. Are there any tips ex-SAP folks can share. I know... — read more
SAP’s new slogan - “Run Better (unless you’re a human)
SAP will s--- you in with all the promises of a company that truly cares, offering annual bonuses and merit increases. But once you reach a certain level, you’ll be expendable and left in the dirt. It’s all about the bottom line. If you think you... — read more
Anything happening at SAP today?
Layoffs?
Not just older employees
My son is a recent college grad, he has been with SAP for under six months and he was shown the door. I'm still trying to figure out what was the point of even hiring him in the first place. Not to mention, he had two other offers he turned down to... — read more
Wonderful HR, wonderful SAP....
Already one week i had the call to prevent me i'm fired... However, i tried to reach my local HR to know more about delay and details.. Not possible, they were on vacation last week...., i also opened a ticket in HR System last week, just transferred... — read more
Do they really think this will work in the long run?
I think we can all see by now that the most affected by these layoffs are older employees with most knowledge and experience. Basically, people who made SAP what it is. I have to wonder, do those on top really think they can get rid of so many of... — read more
This is all about looking good to Wall Street
SAP has spent a lot of cash on acquisitions and Qualtrics was 8 billion. Then layoffs came to save 1 billion? This is all about looking good to Wall Street. SAP knows the original core products are dinosaurs and the only way to stay relevant in the... — read more