The current narrative aound Harmonized Product Operating Model is to make SAP more efficient. However, this narrative is being abused to promote incompetent HR managers who will help fire product owners, designers, agile coaches and other roles to... — read more 

Bravo SAP, its looks like it succeeded in reducing the great culture at SAP by corporate manipulation by trying to sc--w people out of their bonuses. Shame on SAP and its old German software.

Can anyone say definitively how unvested Move and Grow RSUs are treated during a layoff in the US? Heard a rumor that they all vest at Termination, which seems too good to be true and different than what other tech companies in US do.

Looks like we’re hiring (poaching) Sales roles. There was a note going out about paying double referral fees. Does anyone know if that means the company isn’t able to conduct layoffs?

Link below for details: https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/03/former_sap_cto_payout/

Any info on if the ISM budget for this year is less than what it was last year?

This was the lady right?

I have been in touch with some Signavio colleagues and I am d-mbfounded by their idiocracy. They employ HR Managers, referred to as People Leads, as Development Managers, despite their absence of technical expertise. This results in the need to hire... — read more 

Klein received €19 million ($19.9 million) in 2024—a staggering 165% increase from the previous year, according to a company filing published on Thursday. Meanwhile, our salaries and bonuses...

Any information on exactly what exactly these violations that resulted in termination

https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/sap-labs-targets-doubling-productivity-gains-for-clients-from-gen-ai-usage-125022501244_1.html SAP Labs India aims to double its customers’ productivity gains from generative artificial intelligence... — read more 

SAP's Board cleverly kept the door open in 2024 for further Headcount changes. The statement from the Board was simply that Headcount numbers would continue to be evaluated thru 2025 - therefore let none of us be caught with our heads down as we... — read more 

Has anyone heard that the VERP package will be offered in the future -- in 2026 or 2027?

By adding your signature, you stand in solidarity with your colleagues from the SAP Signavio design team, whose voices have been shamelessly silenced - both within the company and on this platform. They may delete threads and heartfelt stories of... — read more 

While posting record Net New Bookings and Profits, the BONUS pool is simply insulting. Please don't tell us how great we are doing and then give an average raise of 1,8%. And if you are thinking you can move to management? Unless you are Asia Indian... — read more 

sometimes I get MOVE RSUs and sometimes I dont. Can someone who knows for certain how the program works explain it? how many get chosen from a team? how do they decide values? are there minimums and maximum requirements for the values and the number... — read more 

Besides the low pay rises, reduced bonuses going around since the strong stock price performance, has there been any news of restructurings and layoffs? I am applying aggressively at the moment in anticipation for something bad if it were to happen. — read more 

Clearly 3,500 people leaving in 2024 wasn't enough, now management needs more people to quit or at least switch teams. I really pity all the L1 managers that have to share the news to their teams who expected something normal or better after such a... — read more 

What happened to this place? SAP was THE company to work for once upon a time. We all loved it here. Now, every single person I talk to is trying to find a way out. If the job market were any better, SAP would be dealing with a massive talent exodus... — read more 

Any thoughts on this announcement? More leadership buyouts?

As DeepSeek beats almost all LLMs and is about 1/20th the cost, is SAP's cost cuts in favour of future AI investments justified? All AI stocks will tank now and will be forced to offer a similar pricing model as DeepSeek to stay relvevant. Even if... — read more 

SAP has been led from the top for decades by the Sales organization ( i.e McDermott. Enslin, Morgan...) And prior to the Sales organization it was led for even more decades by technical folks ( i.e. Hasso, Dietmar). The problem is that SAP is run... — read more 

Sound off on what you think of todays keynote APJ folks

Stock price has been on a steady increase, beating the Market Index over same time period. We will release our Q4 and 2024 year end results next Tuesday ( Jan 28). Investment houses see something positive to drive up stock price. Either it's (A)... — read more 

I've been hearing some rumors, is there any truth to them?

10 years later and still not fully integrated with SAP. Different CRM, orgs, leadership, governance, legal etc. Does SAP not have the will to finalize this merger or is the plan to spin it off?

In his Q and A currently he said the p24 is still continuing, but dodged a question about global headcount. They are also hiring so many in India. It's just a matter of time until these new India employees are fully trained and they begin culling... — read more 

All I know is SAP is now fully focused on the Stock price. It's clear the Board is of the opinion that there are way too many people working for SAP and probably half of the 100,000 employees are in high cost locations. This they will bring an end... — read more 

This is just a shout out. I bi—ed at everyone and was told two years ago if I don’t like it to leave. I want to let everyone know that two years later, I am watching tv all day and no one calls me because of my phone expertise in Sap Hana.

Hard to see this ending well. This board and leadership are completely incompetent. If anyone understood CK's email please summarise it. Embarrassing. 2025 will be the year of crash and burn.

SAP hasn’t been the same company for a while, but I’m seeing some positive changes. I think 2025 might bring us closer to where we were a few years ago, before layoffs and forced attrition became the norm. I could be wrong, but I’ve decided to stay... — read more 

You all want to believe the combination won’t affect you — until it does. This is what happened when EMEA north and south combined and amazing leaders with 20 years’ experience were shown the door. Sadly, many of you in N.A. will lose your jobs and... — read more 

All E-CSP roles are gone, who will do their work

Happy New Year! Guess I better get my resume in tip-top shape since the writing is now on the wall for all US and Canada folks! Consolidating the Americas into one region is very ambitious, since there is literally nothing that the US/Canada has in... — read more 

Have recruitment partners been affects by some cuts, seen a few leaving end of December.

These are probably just rumors, but I wouldn't put it past them to announce the next RTO , now 5 days in the office, as a soft layoff, just like Amazon did. Has anyone heard anything else?

Last January 24 SAP announced a 2 billion euro ($2.17 billion) restructuring program impacting 8,000 employees so it could focus on AI. We had 107,602 full-time employees at the end of December 2023 (according to SAP press info) . CK said that... — read more 

Anyone else getting these pre-holiday-leavetaking emails from upper management, exhorting their orgs to "rest, recharge, and spend time with your loved ones," but wondering what's on the immediate other side of the holidays, in early January, when... — read more 

Just so that everyone here knows, there is a tool SAP has created called Headcount Data Explorer (search for this in SAP One). This will allow you to see the breakdown of headcount by cost center, country, board area, etc. Looks like the Workers... — read more