It's me again, I was the one who 'broke the news' of October layoffs on here. There are plans for one more batch at the end of the month, 2 weeks from now, and then there should be relatively nothing until February where management will more than... — read more 

Can confirm that October is the month of doom. Was told today I have 30 days to apply for open jobs here, if I do not get one, time for me to hit the road, my job has been eliminated. SAS has too many employees at higher levels of too many job roles... — read more 

Is the SAS championship attempting to celebrate what the company once was? Has the annual event become little more than a photo-op and a waste of money without meaningful ROI?

If you hate it at SAS so much, why do you stay? This is an honest question. There are plenty of available jobs. I'm sure many of you are capable enough to be able to land something at least as good as what you have now. So why stay somewhere you are... — read more 

This post points out that a LinkedIn search for Viya yields only three job postings in the United States: https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@3jfx+1oW1I0bm What would it take to make Viya succeed? Better architecture? Better products on top of it?... — read more 

https://qz.com/1776080/how-the-mcdonnell-douglas-boeing-merger-led-to-the-737-max-crisis

cronyism and blatant adultery within the Fraud and Security Intelligence division would make a great read. walter isaacson take note!

Good luck.

Based on content in Walter Isaacson‘s new biography on Elon, there is a lot SAS executives could learn and act upon. Here are a few that might change things. Respect only the laws of physics., not personal opinions, experiences, etc. In... — read more 

There's a story today on WRAL about another stretch of I540 nearing completion. According to the story, the entire I540 project will be complete by 2028. Which comes first - the SAS IPO, or I540 completion?

Heard more layoffs took place today, this time in PSD. Heard of an entire team let go.

So many people who haven't been performing at a reasonable for years/decades are dragging this company down. They haven't kept their skills fresh, and even when given the opportunity to train, turned it down. And everyone acts all surprised when we... — read more 

I’m ready to be bought out, but pretty sure I don’t meet the criteria. A little shy of 60 and almost 15 years in. What were past criteria? Does one wait for the tap on the shoulder or volunteer?

https://www.techzine.eu/blogs/analytics/111256/jim-goodnight-considers-later-sas-ipo-it-will-be-in-2025/

https://www.sas.com/en_us/news/press-releases/2023/september/ai-and-analytics-leader-sas-selects-td-synnex-as-primary-global-.html?utm_source=linkedin_company&utm_medium=social-sprinklr&utm_content=11312169816&utm_term=11312169816 I wonder whether... — read more 

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article279298524.html

SAS announced their new "App Factory" during SAS Explore... They are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that users don't have to use SAS to do what you would ostensibly do with SAS--build AI models. And the tool they've built to enable this... — read more 

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/09/01/sas-public-offering-ipo-jim-goodnight-cary-legacy.html Seems to be trying to put pressure on the company in my opinion. At the very least asking the question we're all wondering. I also find it... — read more 

I'm wondering if they finally figured they weren't fooling anyone

Just curious. When SAS started pushing for automation tests to facilitate CI/CD did it also bring about the demise of many of the senior testers? If so who will make changes when UIs are modified? Did the layoffs affect many developers? Will they be... — read more 

Who agrees and why?

This is behind a paywall at the TBJ but someone sent me the bulk of the content: For the first time, SAS Institute is subleasing buildings on its large headquarters campus in Cary. A SAS spokeswoman confirmed the move, saying it comes as a direct... — read more 

There is no way SAS doesn’t know about this site. I’m just wondering what they’ll do with the info they are gathering? Even though this is anonymous, I could imagine SAS knows it’s definitely NOT the new hires or people under 5 years here... — read more 

Should they get together and write SAS history from the perspective of those who lived it and helped build the company from the early days till say 2020? Would this be an interesting business and general tech history interest read?

OK Folks -- what will it take!

Anyone hear as to the stock options or rsu that SAS will offer?

Fact: SAS succeeded when it was an R&D driven company. This has been slowly diminishing for 20+ years while Product Management and Marketing has grown considerably. SAS could eliminate 60% of the marketing-related positions and it wouldn’t... — read more 

For quite a while SAS was almost a mythical place that you were proud to say that you worked there. Probably the best in NC. Things have really gone downhill in the last 3 years. I wonder how folks will remember SAS in 5-10 years from now if it even... — read more 

As SAS takes the next steps toward its future, so will SAS Technical Support. Effective January 1, 2024, the Technical Support organization will adopt a global structure based on function, rather than geography, which reflects SAS’ move away from a... — read more 

With all the postings The Layoff receives regarding SAS, I see a business opportunity! One of the SAS Old Timers should open the "Viya Bar and Grill" in the Bass Pro Shops Plaza across the street from SAS. There, former SAS employees could pull up a... — read more 

"This frequent comment puzzles me. How did SAS drop the ball with universities? I thought they gave the software away free to universities..."

I think we've been lied to for years in regards to our true revenue, so what now appears as a slow decay is actually quite worse. There is a reason why the Broadcom deal failed, because the potential buyer smelled the BS when they started looking at... — read more 

SAS revenues have declined on average >2% per year, over the past 10 years (from SAS-published figures, adjusted for inflation.) If this trend continues, SAS could maintain its profit margin by cutting costs >2% per year. Or, the trend could get... — read more 

So I was reading up on the latest SAS layoffs and ended up at comprehensive.io where average salary ranges are displayed by job title. I had always heard that SAS underpays but I thought the perks made up for it, sort of. At least there wasn’t any... — read more 

In my opinion, what's much worse than Agile is when managers pretend to do Agile for the sake of appearances while telling their teams to ignore the process entirely. Those managers are letting the company down by lying, and they're making... — read more 

The fact that most of the people let go in the recent batch of SAS layoffs are in their 50's may pose a problem for the company. It has been illegal for more than 50 years for an employer to use age as a criteria in hiring or firing. It’s worth a... — read more 

Are we too far gone by now for anything to be able to put us back on the right course?

SAS used to the market leader in statistics and the analytic products. The people who found and built the analytic products have retired in the last few years and the new crop of analytic R&D leaders do not have the technical expertise or the... — read more 

It's disappointing that there is so little transparency here. They literally keep us guessing and we spend our time working in fear. Do they really think that fear and uncertainty will make us more productive, because I'm pretty sure that no one... — read more 

People who are wondering if this is over need to face facts. This is not going to be over. We’ll be seeing more layoffs at SAS over time until the company implodes. The management will keep cutting until all that is left is a skeleton that will be... — read more