Thread regarding Open Text Corp. layoffs

@f0 OT isn't just old, it is a company that has no clear idea what to do so it follows others. The RTO is just mean; the company could do more than survive on remote workers, it could thrive, but it is too busy trying to scare people back to the office.
As for AA's saying that people need to see the value of interacting face-to-face with colleagues, he's overlooking that people can turn the camera on for Teams meetings, and he's too old to understand that younger folks thrive when working from home.
Any and all companies forcing the RTO mandate on people are doing it because it's a cheap way to "reduce headcount" because the people who don't want to work in an office are ultimately going to quit, which saves on even the smallest of severance packages.

@de

butt in seat at the office All day. they've said this many times before I got canned years ago.

They've been monitoring attendance for years. Just stop badging out and see the warnings start coming in about "make sure you badge out or you'll be fired."

@fy Heh. Likely indicates it was built in-house.

@g1 Only as part of a multi week average, or a multi person weekly average. If you drill down to per week attendance of a single person then you will see nothing but integers.

Like Popeye The Sailor said, a scan is a scan

@g1 it doesn't.

@fy it 100% has .5 as a possible attendance.

The reporting tool is mostly garbage, is manually updated only every couple of weeks, and absolutely does not account for "coffee badging." It records a badge swipe as an attended day, period.

@de You're not getting a straight answer. Because a manager or HR won't want to be on the hook for that. They'll likely defer saying individual circumstances.

4-5 hours seems to be an acceptable standard where no one says anything. Some people can get away with occasionally less. If your office had bad internet though you kinda have to go back home sometimes.

Some departments will have a manager checking throughout a day, they may not even get that.

The vast majority of OT's work can be mostly if not completely done from home. With some exceptions like shipping or in-person client meetings. We did it before, we can do it again ts. But OT is old, so it falls into old tropes. Including following others for RTO, and keeping fancy leases until they magically decide to close one with a month's notice.

@de RTO is not about efficiency but control.

Okay, so clearly coffee badging is a bad idea, but how much of the day do you actually have to spend at the office? Can you work any portion of the day at home, or is it butt-in-seat at the office for the full day?