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@vf I fail to see a substantive argument in your position. It is widely acknowledged that tuition fees for international students in the United States are already prohibitively high. Your remarks appear to rely on broad generalizations rather than addressing the tangible consequences of further discouraging international students from studying in the U.S.
Many international students leave their families and cross oceans to pursue their education and careers here. They invest significant effort in adapting to new customs, mastering the language, and contributing to the academic and cultural diversity of this country-all while maintaining humility and respect. The suggestion to increase fees, thereby pushing students to seek alternatives, overlooks the profound impact this would have on both the students themselves and the broader educational and economic landscape of the United States. What specific outcomes do you anticipate from such a policy?
The universities are a big driver of the problem and a big change that is needed is for the president to end OPT which the universities use as a way to recruit international students. OPT was never passed by congress and could end immediately by the president. Tuition rates need to be raised for International students, as they are not paying more than Americans. They get charged Out of State rates, but they need to pay their fair share to access our Graduate programs. There needs to be International rates that are higher than what universities charge us, and once they start paying their fair share then rates from Americans should go down. Indians aren't even entering Grad school with engineering degrees from Indian universities, they are coming in mostly with Engineer Technology degrees (B.Tech) from tech schools. Universities allow them direct admissions with a degree path that they shun for Americans, yet pay recruiters to dredge Indian tech schools in order to $$$ell them a path for immigration.
@fb exactly that’s why the flight needs to be on tuition fees structure so our kids can afford. Instead of telling our kids it’s all because Congress is supporting h1-b. Empower our kids is the way forward eventually everything will fall in place.
“If the H-1B visa program is eliminated, we will manage just fine”. But is that truly the extent of our ambition?
Why not challenge major corporations like Apple-and indeed, all Magnificent Seven companies-to commit to manufacturing and selling their products exclusively within the United States? Why not advocate for a future where production and innovation are concentrated solely in America, rather than distributed globally?
This kind of insular thinking is counterproductive. We should strive for collective progress and global collaboration, not isolation. Pointing fingers and assigning blame will not move us forward.
Consider this: What if the future is built elsewhere? How will we respond? Will we still be lamenting the existence of the H-1B visa, or will we have evolved our perspective?
It's time to think bigger. True leaders look beyond narrow interests and embrace a vision that lifts everyone, everywhere. Let's focus on solutions, not limitations.
@f2 Many kids decide not to go to college or drop out of college because either they can't afford it due to the rising cost of tuition, or they know the competition will always win when the competition is an H1B or F1 visa student. However, if there were no H1B or F1 visa students competing for US jobs, I think US would do just fine. Not one can start a job on day one because of the knowledge required to know about the project they need to work on. There is always training that usually happens. The problem is Indian's are now manager, directors, etc. and are willing to hire an Indian (who won't complain due to the fear of losing the job) vs a US American who will go directly to HR if they see something wrong. I really don't think America needs all these IT folks from India. But the gov't and big tech have made this system a crooked system in their favor when the minimum required pay was only $60K. That's why they continued hiring an engineer at $60K instead of the US engineer at $100K. Saving the company money which resulted in profits for the company. Now the rules have changed, where H1Bs are now being paid higher (in some cases much higher) than a US engineer. But corporations are still willing to hire H1Bs because they know they can put pressure on the foreign worker due to revoking their H1B or Green Card, and due to this fear, they will always say Yes to any amount of work, even if it's two to three times an average engineers workload, and they will work weekends and all different international hours if need be. US corporations are able to get two to three times the amount of work from H1B engineer with a slightly higher pay of one engineer. It's all about money. They have people who want to come to USA, work 6 to 10 years twice the amount of a regular engineer, not having to find new worker until after the green card is process which can take 10 years, and build fear into these workers.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the 1% at the top who are the rich and powerful. Congress makes the rules for H1B (not even TACO can help much on this issue) and congress are allowed to buy and sell shares of companies, making themselves a tone of money every year. It's not the H1B person (Indian, Chinese, etc.) employees fault for taking your job away (cause you would also want to come to America to work and live in a free country and have the opportunities that are not available in their home countries), it's the 1% at the top who control everything.
See if you they care about what you think or what you have to say. Even the votes are bought these days. Your opinion doesn't matter much to them. This is the society we live in. Like it or not, this is reality.
@e7 Let's be real, No country produces a workforce where every single person is a genius. Not the U.S., not India, not anywhere. The question isn't whether every Indian engineer is a rockstar-it's whether the system produces enough high-caliber talent to meet global demand, and the answer is a resounding yes.
not everyone is Elon Musk or Sundar Pichai. In India, the competition to even get into top engineering schools is brutal. Kids start prepping for entrance exams in middle school. Dropout rates? In India, if you start a degree, you finish it—over 90% completion, unlike the U.S. where college dropout rates hover around 40%. And let's talk about the 'skill gap'- pointing fingers at Indian professionals, but the real issue is that the U.S. isn't producing enough homegrown tech talent, period.
If American companies keep outsourcing, it's because they can't find enough skilled workers here. Instead of blaming the players, let's fix the game invest in STEM, make tech careers exciting for American kids, and stop pretending that the problem is 'bad Indian coders' and not a broken pipeline. The world moves fast-either step up or keep paying for the talent you need.
@e9 that’s you I’ ignorance buddy. I did faced the reality and how difficult it was to find the one. But as you said I would encourage kids to pursue Stem more seriously then the change will happen. Salary part is again debatable
@c5 There is no skill gap. 2 out of 3 Americans with STEM degrees work in non-STEM fields. There has never been a shortage of American engineers (It's a fiction that took in the 1950's "missile gap" scare.) The IEEE began studying this many years ago and proved it's nothing but a myth.
There is only a shortage of engineers willing to work at menial wages.
This isn't new... GTS has been doing this for over a decade.
@dr Talent? This is amusing. Yea they churn out massive amounts of degrees not worth the paper they are printed on. Can you explain then, why all of the Vz systems now supported by managed service companies (most of which are Indian) do not work? I am not saying there aren't some with talent, but the majority of them couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. And yet the company continues to spend millions on these contracts.
H-1B is a problem and being abused. The government knows about it, but needs people to submit complaints to the DOJ for them to investigate. This video is from the DOJ about what they are doing about the issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaFNwcBiSOs
@c9 yes, that’s how we need to think and work on. I agree on it.
Again my whole point to folks- The reason you see so many Indian professionals on H1-B visas isn't just about numbers-it's about the specific, high-demand technical skills they bring to the table. India churns out a massive number of engineers and IT professionals every year, many of whom specialize in areas like software development, cloud computing, and data science-exactly the skills U.S. companies desperately need but often struggle to find locally. These professionals don't just have the degrees; they've been trained to solve real-world problems, ace tough technical interviews, and adapt quickly to new technologies. The real conversation shouldn't be about who's getting the visas, but about why the U.S. isn't producing enough homegrown talent in these critical fields. If America wants to reduce its reliance on foreign tech workers, it needs to invest in better STEM education, upskilling programs, and making tech careers more appealing to its own workforce-because at the end of the day, it's not about where the talent comes from, but whether the skills are there to get the job done.
@ca why are 80% of H1Bs Indian then? We all know the answer to that question
@OP You do know H1B is a visa for workers NOT from India alone. H1B consists of workers from China, India, Mexico, Canada, Iran, Russia, Germany, UK, Pakistan, Philippines, South Korea, Japanese, Taiwanese, France, Hungry, Middle Eastern countries, Israel, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Kenya, Tanzania, South Africa, Spain, Egypt, Romania, Greece, Marco, Dubai, Ukraine, Italy, etc.
H1B employees come from around the world, and USA is happy to have them. If you have an issue with H1B visa, than go ask Congress to change the rules. You have the right to vote, and if majority feel differently from your vote, that's just too bad for you. If you don't agree with the majority, you have the right to go live in a different country. No one will stop you except the country that may not want you because you are a USA American.
@c5
Outsourcing and H-1B will always be there to cover business needs but regulations like the HIRE act will push greedy companies to work on filling the gaps and prioritizing US employees whenever they can.
@c4
Spread the word, post/comment and attend events where your voice could make a difference. US lawmakers have a golden fish memory and we should keep reminding them that they should work for the US people and not the lobbies otherwise they will lose thier seats.
Call the financial committee members and request to meet them in person if possible, this is the best starting point l now.
Whats needed is HIRE act + PAUSE act
@c4 what about structural gap? Meaning Skill gap? How will we overcome that?
@b2 We should push for regulations and taxes to be imposed on offshoring and outsourcing. There is no other option
Any legal route we can take to keep Jobs in U.S?
@bq The hire act of 2025's proposal to impose a 25% tax on outsourcing payments while using the revenue to fund job training and internships highlights a critical debate about loyalty to American workers vs corporate interests. It's deeply troubling that some lawmakers blocked this bill anonymously, avoiding public accountability for a decision that prioritizes outsourcing lobbyists over struggling families facing inflation, healthcare costs, and layoffs. While the bill's intent to reinvest in U.S. jobs is commendable, questions remain about its potential impact on business competitiveness and consumer prices, and whether the funds would be used effectively. Transparency and open debate are essential voters deserve to know who stands with workers and who sides with corporations, and lawmakers should be held accountable for their choices. Ultimately, the conversation should focus on how best to create and protect American jobs, whether through this act or other innovative policies. What do you see as the most effective way to address outsourcing and support U.S. workers?
@bj
There is a solution, it’s called the HIRE Act of 2025. This bill proposes a 25% tax on outsourcing payments, replacing the current tax‑exempt status that rewards companies for shipping jobs overseas.
But instead of standing with American workers, some of our lawmakers chose to side with the outsourcing lobby. They blocked the bill, selling off whatever honor they had left.
The HIRE Act doesn’t just punish outsourcing, it reinvests the revenue here at home. The funds would be used to train workers and expand internships, filling gaps in the U.S. job market. Analysts have already warned that industries like tech and finance would be forced to rethink their reliance on overseas labor if the bill passed.
And here’s the most telling part: the members of Congress who blocked it did so anonymously. They knew exactly what they were doing ,betraying U.S. workers struggling under inflation, rising healthcare costs, and layoffs. That’s not just bad policy it’s an act of treason against the people they claim to represent.
@b2 You're absolutely right to call out the outsourcing crisis.
The numbers don't lie: 300,000 jobs shipped overseas annually, a $930 billion industry, and a political class that's been bought into silence. It's a systemic betrayal of American workers, and the H- 1B debate is just one symptom of a much larger disease.
While the H-1B program is often scapegoated, the idea that it's solely about "replacing Americans" oversimplifies the issue. Many H-1B holders fill genuine skill gaps-roles that go unfilled for months because the domestic talent pipeline isn't keeping pace. The real villain isn't the individual worker; it's a broken system that prioritizes short-term profits over long-term investment in American talent.
The Structural Unemployment the core issue isn't just outsourcing or visas-it's structural unemployment. The future of work is shifting at breakneck speed, and the skills gap is widening.
Automation, Al, and global competition mean that yesterday's jobs aren't coming back, no matter how many visas we cap or how much we rage against outsourcing.
The question isn't just how to protect jobs, but how to prepare workers for the jobs that will exist tomorrow.
How we need to see is, Anger is understandable, but it's not a strategy. Instead of pitting workers against each other or wishing ill on others, we should demand real solutions like massive upskilling programs, incentives for domestic innovation, and policies that reward companies for investing in American workers. And yes, we should hold accountable the politicians and lobbyists who've sold out the middle class.
At the end of the day, the only way forward is to be kind, do kind, and fight smart. Resentment won't rebuild the middle class-action, empathy, and a relentless focus on the future will. That's the motto we should all live by.
Facts 🌟
About 85,000 new H‑1B visas are issued annually, mostly in tech and engineering, the government has reacted and $100,000 fee per new H‑1B petition is expected to drive this number way lower
Roughly 300,000 U.S. jobs are outsourced each year, with 66% of U.S. businesses outsourcing at least one department, the outsourcing business is estimated at 930 billion dollars and projected to grow to 1.6 trillion dollars in the next 5 years.
Outsourcing is by far the BIGGEST threat for US job and It’s not that nobody sees the damage outsourcing does, it’s that nobody wants to do anything about it.
The lobbyists already bought the silence. Politicians, lawmakers, and media outlets across the spectrum won’t even let the debate breathe. The result? Workers get shipped out, while the spin machine tells us it’s all about ‘efficiency'
Sorry if you got RIFd. But we need to understand that no one is replacing anyone. This is political propaganda that’s being put in everyone’s head. Structural unemployment is a global shift caused by automation, Al, and changing industries-not just about "replacing Americans."
Trump loves H1B (his words). All the corps love taking advantage of H1B, outsourcing, and offshoring. It’s the only way they can keep the stock high and pay low. Not to mention the big bonuses and gifts they receive.
Go be a plumber, and pay 3k for health insurance like a good American.