Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

As predicted. Soon tokens will be part of your comp package instead of RSUs and base raises. Mark my words.

@1pb

t1 - 2k credits - 130USD - start point for all - unusable for anything regular
t2 - 8k credits - auto-approved now (after dev gave a pushback) - usable only as augmentation of dev work
t3 - 20k credits - 2 or 3 levels of approvals depending on your role - usable for regular development, if optimization on models is done, and skills are widely used for all routine parts
t4 (developers only) - 60k credits - 3 levels of approvals
t5 (automated agents only) - 140k credits - 3 levels of approvals

what are the different tiers? how many of them are there?

@1h9 nobody knows, they want us to use it but cheaply, or at least to have control as for limited resource

I would just burn as much tokens as you can until rollout and automate your tasks with programs / Skills written by Codex, which won't use tokens or use significantly less.

There is a pushback in that channel, but not much because we all get approvals without much questions, it is just annoying that you have to go from tier to tier and collect all of them. It happens within a day per tier from what I saw.
For normal development with Codex a main you need at least tier 3, assuming you use optimization to reduce tokens use (low reasoning for simple tasks, Skills for all repetitive work, etc).

@1h4
so what is the point? are we supposed to use AI or not? if we are supposed to use it, restricting usage is supposed to accomplish what exactly? (other than stop using it?) $130 a month is a nuisance. I would probably stop using it entirely at that point.

And the tier'ed approvals? they are supposed to segregate the population from the haves and have nots?

Any pushback from ppl who are affected yet?

@1h3 There is a public slack channel for pilot rollout, but there too few people there, so I don't want to share it publicly. It's not a rumor, it's a very real pilot rollout in one MB org for now. So far they give Tier 2 without questions asked (2 approvals), if you request it. Tier 3 and 4, not so fast (3 approvals).

So I didn't see anything in slack forums on this. Is this just a rumor? $130 per month means I can only start a codex session up and su-king in my gynormous agents.md file before it tells me you are out of tokens.

It's very simple. C suite execs cant admit the AI emperor has no clothes. These clowns have whipped themselves up into such an AI frenzy that nobody wants to be the first to tap out.

@12 as a,shareholder of ORCL I'm disturbed by your attitude.

I am also in the $100+ token usage a day club.

Limiting my usage would be absolutely absurd. I am about 3x more productive than I >was before AI.
@zr only 3x? I'm probably 10x more productive now. They're going to bell-curve your *ss right out of here next round.

@11g Or just sit there and pick your nose until you can begin using more tokens.

What are they doing, charging by the week or the month?

"Your ChatGPT and Codex usage for the week of June 15–21, 2026, is $79.23 USD "

The standard limit will be set to $130 a week and you will have to get signoff to get more.

I am also in the $100+ token usage a day club.

Limiting my usage would be absolutely absurd. I am about 3x more productive than I was before AI.

@yr with what would be obsolete GPUs

@v8 the justification will be simple, Oracle can't afford to keep the people on the books. The debt is starting to be crippling which is the driver behind limiting AI use. There won't be massive rehires. Employee numbers will continue to drop.

Super AI won’t be here without Quantom computers and nuclear power plants anyways.. they are slowly shooting themselves in the foot building today’s data centers on tomorrows money

I can’t believe they’d do this now. Some teams are already fully plugged into AI; AI at every stage of the SDLC. Mark my words: bugs will go unfixed, and we’ll see extended downtime once teams run out of tokens.

AI will bankrupt Larry for good

How will they justify more layoffs now?
Or will we hire ppl back finally?

Are we still going to have to report how we are innovating with AI?

PSA: to they count token usage retroactively, it's not a clean slate. limit is reset 1st of each month. MB org only is affected at the moment as part of this "pilot".

The 120 USD per month limit makes Codex unusable for any regular development work, it's just a small augmentation to ask an occasional question or run some already developed skill. Therefore, makes no difference whether to save tokens or prepare, you will start from tier 1, and who knows when SVP approvals will unblock your work.

It was a nice ride. I guess OpenAPI will implode, bubble will burst and economy will go through depression now. Even if Oracle with own compute imposes such limits - it's dead.

ahahahahahahahaha, 130 USD per MONTH hard limit with 520 USD after approval with SVP, and $1300 even higher approval.
So Codex is dead, I guess it's relief, this expensive toy is not going to replace us.

OP here.
aaaand, they fu---d it up
this morning Codex is completely blocked for all lead devs in our AI division, because "monthly usage is exceeded". so it's not weekly, it's not starting this week, it's retrospectively calculated on month and now we it's all blocked.
these mo--ns even fu---d up generation of previous week usage report.

not at netsuite

@nx Meeten B, SVP, AI org
it will be first rolled out starting from this Monday across his org only
then it will be rolled out company-wide

Who's MB? Is this a company wide thing? Nothing in my email.
Noticed they took away the "fast option" in the AI tool, but xtra high is still there for gpt5.5.

@k5 I am IC5 software engineer, and my usage is 10-15 times higher than average in our team, troll. In fact, on Friday, I was told by my manager to cut it down.

@d6 you use $100 per day you are so behind on codex use, what are you an intern?

@dj but why would they?

@db it's easy for Microsoft to buy Oracle.

Go with the PYT!!!!

@db I wouldn't count on Microsoft buying Oracle regardless of the discount. There isn't anything in Oracle's portfolio that they need and even if there was it comes with a raging dumpster fire of a company attached to it. Private equity might buy it but that would only be to break it up and sell off the pieces to get every penny out of it.

@OP Well, it's a great thing Oracle is so all in on the AI scam.

When OpenAI goes, it's likely Oracle goes with it at this point. Microsoft will likely purchase Oracle a discount.

@d4 only ChatGPT chat Instant is unlimited. All Codex models are medium/high depending on the reasoning level according to their support materials.
I burn over 100 USD on average per day on Codex on just my work and I already optimized it in obvious places.
At the moment, I generated prompt to run analysis across all my Codex threads to detect reusable flow and generate deterministic Skills and tools for them to further reduce usage , I will burn as much as I can on the highest models to do it until Monday.

The side effect will be more toxic atmosphere (from now on, I will never use my tokens to help anybody unless directly mandated by my supervisor as part of official assignment).
And automation loop will now grind to the halt as people who knows how to develop Skills and set up MCP Servers on the project will be all running over token limit on regular stuff, so nobody will be volunteering to upgrade anything for the team unless again directly mandated by management and if they give you tokens to achieve that.
I guess will see how hard is a weekly limit.

I think you are referring to if you use the advance thinking settings. The standard one should be unlimited.

@OP This is too hilarious for words. Employees are expensive, let's unload some and use AI instead. AI! MORE AI! DO EVERYTHING WITH AI, INCREASE OUTPUT!

What? We have to PAY to use it? It costs HOW much?

Side-splitting.

Been assigned 5 Account Plan creation and Customer facing presos via CodEx for FY27.
I have consumed countless tokens alone this week and I'm just one person in an org of 65 reps.

My assigned SC consumed 2K this week, so that 104K year.
Times 40 SCs is 4.1M year.
Unsustainable.

I don't think it means they lost confidence. It just got expensive to fast. They will need to get rid of more of those pesky employees that cost so much so they can run unlimited tokens again.

Maybe they finally figured out that AI isn't the solution to everything and will only apply it where it makes sense... although that is unlikely that management has actually figured something out and got it right.

It could also be that people are getting better at using AI and are giving it more complex tasks to complete which requires more resources. In either case they need to figure out where AI is useful and limit its use to those scenarios.

Arbitrarily putting limits on tokens can at the same time stop waste and also prevent real work from getting done. I guess they should have figured this out before they went all in.