Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

I'd do a tariff on outsourcing. For every job paid overseas, you pay 200% and good luck. If we can do this with brooms and widgets, why not with labor too. It's the same concept.

@mr Correction: It's hard to find American workers who will work for Indian wages when you don't even look for them in the fist place.

It’s hard to find qualified Americans workers

“We aren't specifically looking for your "Qualified American workers" to join our team. We want qualified workers who are willing to work.”
Forgot to finish the sentence. Should have added “at a fraction of what we would have to pay Americans”.

“If you did better work, you wouldn't have to complain so much about those H1B Visa workers.”

Bull sc-t! True Americans work circles around your beloved, 3rd rate H-1B interlopers. It’s ALL about these greedy corporations & their saving $…. Regardless of the inferior productivity and low quality of the work..

@bh

I remember when Clinton signed that and kicked off the trade deal . If you recall , at the time much like now we were experiencing high inflation and our politicians used this move to kick the can. Well here we are full circle and I honestly believe India and our own policy on H1B labor has spun us so far out of wack that I doubt there will be another kick the can move. There is a plan to devalue the debt with a true coin currency which is kind of funny because the move they pitched back when Clinton and Bush kicked the can it was not a crypto , it was the alleged conspiratorial move to the Amero and "basket of currencies" . I strongly suspect, what comes next wont be good for ANYONE anywhere in the world. The best thing America can do right now is suspend ALL H1B's unless they have a proven science degree in another country , spin up an external revenue service with a 100,000 dollar per head tax on all off shore workers, and lastly re-light the tech fabrication plants they closed over night in the early 2000's . Other than that we are about to step into a REAL hurt locker. You haven't seen nothing yet. I have said it over and over by the end of Q1 the unemployment numbers will start to ramp up. For every 1% that number ticks up 40,000 people die. All these layoffs are American companies putting people to death, remember that. It's a proven statistic. Do I blame the companies, not really. I have a feeling this is all coordinated and not coincidental that these layoffs are hitting all at once. If you look in the way back machine you will see that Jerome Powel has been calling for higher unemployment numbers for the last three years. They are using A.I. as a smoke screen.

@bc Bill Clinton (1993–2001)
• Role: Signed NAFTA into law in 1993 and supported China’s entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO).
• Impact: Widely considered one of the biggest policy accelerants of job offshoring.
• Many manufacturing jobs moved to Mexico after NAFTA.
• Granting China “permanent normal trade relations” opened the door for large-scale outsourcing of production to China.
• Economists often point to the 1990s–2000s trade bo-m as when offshoring really surged.

This is why a foundational education in this country is so obviously needed....Reagan, that B-actor, was instrumental in moving jobs abroad through his laissez-faire approach to economics and deregulation! So stop the blame game. That giant 'trickle down' theorist was a major contributor to this mess.
So I hope your children and grandchildren continue their race to the bottom of the economic heap, I hope they all continue to drop out of high school, I hope none of them find a job except sweeping the bathrooms at gas stations. And I hope you continue to vote for people who dislike you but trust you're too ignorant to realize you're just another su---r. I wish for you nothing!

shall we all agree that the h1b decision was the right one?

i mean even the h1bs agree(ask them) the program was a scam.

A democrat here, I dislike the most of Trump's moves but on this one I have to give him a big big big Kudos.

Both parties have betrayed the worker long time ago and this is the first time I am seeing anyone do anything about the mess our politicians have created.

Every single president since year 2000 when these 'talent' visa programs have been instituted knew it was a scam but nobody did anything. You saw how much Elon and other tech bros pushed back on reforming the program and Trump was still able to push this through. For that, hats off. We'll see how things play out, I am sure Tata's and Infosys' of the world are actively working on finding a workaround.

Judging on the number of upvotes on this thread I'd say we are, as a nation, united on this issue (it's kind of rare nowadays).

Whatever happens tech will always win in the end.

These dou--ebags will never pay American workers....

America does have the tech workers!!!

These cr-ppy companies will go for fake degrees over years of experience and know-how expertise.

This is disgusting!

Notice the comments. There are people who want corporations to not abandon the workers who enriched them and there are shrill, vindictive, spiteful people who wish harm and misery upon those who simply wish to be treated fairly.

It's pretty easy to recognize the difference between good and evil.

Can wait to see another huge hack given how the security team has been gutted along with the vast knowledge base across the company that has been eviscerated and offshored. More brilliant moves from the C suite.

Twice my job was outsourced & I had to train my replacement who could barely speak English.
I was a "qualified American"

We aren't specifically looking for your "Qualified American workers" to join our team. We want qualified workers who are willing to work. Do you understand the distinction? Specifying qualified American workers who are willing to work further reduces the pool of potential candidates. Why does this matter? Not every qualified American who is willing to work is a good candidate. Discount it if you will, but not all qualified Americans who are willing to work will make good employees and team members. Some even have really cr-ppy attitudes and are prone to becoming emotionally butthurt. We don't want that, so we prefer to have the larger pool of candidates from which to make our selections. We hope this has been informative. Have a wonderful day.

this went into 'politics' very quickly, no wander they moderate h1b threads here on layoffs.com

You can mistreat people all you want when you have to power to not just fire them, but also have them deported. It is modern slavery or indentured servants depending on your perspective. Companies doing this deserve to be treated as slavers.

Our entire country is being sold off. It started with manufacturing, and it has grown to technical fields. A global marketplace means your high standard of living is competing with people who are happy to earn far less than you in their developing economy.

The only bright spot is that it will soon happen to them once their economy has developed to the point that their standard of living has gotten too high for corporate America to pay for.

Corporate raiders and shareholders have ruined this country by not being required to put their home country first.

No sh*t Sherlock