I know there probably isn't a way to know if a RIF is coming for you but thought I would ask if anyone in hindsight saw some clues or saw the writing on the wall ahead of time? I am pretty overworked with responsibilities but have for the last several years reported to different people who do not (and have not made any effort) to learn even at a high leve what I do or take any interest in my work. I assume me being generally overlooked means I will eventually be next but then again maybe not because my supervisory team will not want to pick up my work when I am gone since they are so unfamiliar? I am ready for whatever comes. A little worried that someday Elevance my get rid of sub pay -because why not it is a cost to them- and that worries me.
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You work for EH with Gail as CEO. That's how you know.
@tf during Cobid documenting processes was never a thing. All of a sudden there’s “coaching” under the guise of documenting all they can to prepare for layoff.
1) A sudden interest in documenting processes, when they’ve never been concerned with documenting them before. 2) Asks to fill out skills grids and rank yourself, under the guise of career development. 3) Asks about upcoming PTO and requesting calendars to be up to date. 4) Team or group meetings getting dropped.
Training others should not be the job of an associate. Training others is the job of the manager, and that manager is clearly not doing it.
@gy This is absolutely correct. It happened to me, and despite being the only person doing many of the daily tasks, they RIF'd me. TRUST NO ONE.
If they ask you to write down everything you do and the time it takes, this means your area is being looked at. If your manager doesn’t care about your goals or making updates… if your manager doesn’t suddenly wants process documentation for your work. If your 1:1 is moved to a Thursday …OR a Friday that times with a RIF rumor.
I was RIF’d last year.
If your manager says “let’s share your expertise with junior associates or offshore” so you get more responsibilities. It’s time to start looking for options.
I just assume I'm never getting RIFed because, like you, I'm overworked and overwhelmed and would honestly love them to offer me a severance, especially since it's the end of the year and our insurance benefits are going to reset anyways
I tend to act as if I’m always potentially on the list. But from what I’ve seen, when it actually happens, it usually catches people off guard, even the ones who thought they were ready. Everyone I’ve known who got hit didn’t expect it that particular day. It’s a strange working environment, knowing that at any moment, you could be next.
Not having a function of my own. Instead I am forced to perform knowledge transfer all the time.
All I can say is it doesn't matter if no one else knows how to do your work. They will still RIF you if that is what the $$ calls for. They just take your work, either stop having it done altogether or they just give it to someone else to "figure out." Also, if you care more about your job then doing the right thing, then keep your mouth shut about any issues, just smile and proceed because if you call out any issue, even if you have a way to resolve it and you are not in the "in crowd," they will RIF you if the opportunity presents itself. It is a game and you have to know how to play it. The upper level does not work as a team, they look for ways to undermined each other, there is some serious animosity and backstabbing and if you bring up an issue, even with a resolution, they don't want anyone to know about it. So be warned that if you want to stay with this company, you better check your morals at the door.
if you are essentially being ignored - you may be on the list - why bother with you if you are not going to be around. If you have been talked to any time this year about "underperforming" missing a metric etc - you are on the list
You can never know for sure until it happens. There may be some on your team that are given a heads up to keep them calm. But for the most part you won’t see it coming. The best thing you can do is to be prepared. It is a tough market out there. Pick up a side hustle if you can
I knew about 6 months ahead of time I was gonna be riffed. They moved me from a market that was tough and I had a recent success where figured out a major issue where the resident expert stated that can’t possibly be the problem, and assigned to someone else. Then I was moved to a market that could run itself.