The question is, who is left to rif? Any news on rif calls going out week after next which will be a non-paycheck week? Or will they continue to make up more ridiculous work requirements to get the rest of us to quit or retire earlier than planned?
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@113 Go with Christmas and use up your PTO between now and then. Depending on dept, not much happens after Thanksgiving.
@zf I know people who received AIP with a partially achieved eval and were Rifd.
@113 Don't stress, you'll get one of them. 😉
I can't decide if I want the Thanksgiving RIF, or the Christmas RIF.
High workload, no job security, senior management still drawing huge bonuses while our AIP is pennies, budget for raises/rewards is always empty for infinity, no promotions available (not in the budget), no career path. We work for our current salary w no incentives. They get what they pay for.
@m5 You're only eligible for AIP if you get "meets expectations" or above. So what's to stop them from riffing you then tanking your evaluation?
Historically RIFs are heavy thru end of November.
If you're still working here you're on the RIF list
My boss is giving me nearly impossible tasks. Although it started after the results of the AVS.
Is there still an automation initiative for November 2025? And will it affect jobs?
Given that we will be sc--wed for AIP, financial incentives around AIP do not apply this year.
@c4 not quite. If you are in pay status on 10/1 (even if you received your RIF notification after 9/1) you will be eligible for a prorated AIP in March.
The only way to guarantee clearing the payroll books by 12/31 is to RIF newbies because anyone with a decent tenure here will get up to 26 weeks severance/supplemental income pay.
@fm Yes- there are some 15’s and above who are also keeping the lights on, I would say about 40% of them are carrying the load for the other 60%. I know of instances where there is a manager and a 15 who are never there while another 15 has all the subject matter knowledge and works a ton. When the one that is keeping the lights on gets vested and moves on, the other two will not be able to pick up the flag; they are clueless. It would be far more effective to reward hard work and performance with the option of a PTO or cash reward, for all grades, then this tiered system they created.
@c4 I agree on almost all of your points but as someone with unlimited PTO, I take less time than when I had a PTO bank. Not saying that applies for all with unlimited but just sharing I take less.
If they RIF you before a certain cutoff date in October they don’t have to payout full bonus and they can clear you off the books before year end results. I think it is before the 20th? They used to routinely RIF people in October then hire them back in January. SLT is likely running the numbers now to see if they will hit their numbers for their bonus. If it looks like they won’t they’ll shuffle people around like moving Elevance employees to Carelon or will RIF people. Workload and humans don’t matter to them; it is showing the bottom line to Wall Street and what they can put in their own bank accounts. Remind yourself of that when they give the let’s focus and work more speech right before they and their minions set off on their unlimited PTO.
I am betting on the ridiculous work requirements. We’ll see.