Thread regarding Nokia Corp. layoffs

@egb In France, they want about 427 volunteers to sign up for layoff. However, they can't even get 200 to sign up. And if the unions can get even 200, Nokia can't do much about it due to strict labor laws in Europe (France). That means the remaining layoff will happen in countries such as USA which do not have strict labor laws. (For example, if only 160 people sign up in France for voluntary layoff, that mean 427-160=267 (remaining layoffs) would need to occur in countries like USA, China, India, Latin America, maybe Canada, etc.).

I asked AI: "what has happened in the past when nokia couldn't get the necessary amount of people to sign up for Voluntary Layoffs in France? Did the remaining amount of people layoffs spill over into other countries like USA?"

"AI Overview
In the past, when Nokia failed to meet voluntary departure targets in France, the company has proceeded with compulsory layoffs, often leading to intense negotiations with unions and government intervention, followed by a shift in focus to job cuts in other regions, including in some cases, the USA. "

Is there any plan on lay off in Europe In 2026?

@OP Is there a conflict of interest when married couples work in the same business organizational group? Could this be perceived as favoritism linked to discrimination and causing a hostile environment to other employees? Should Corporate policy be updated to reflect the best interest of the company?
Why aren't these married couples self aware of how uncomfortable it makes other employees feel especially when their jobs are saved (perhaps due to favoritism) while others are laid off?

When leadership team tells you, "Do not fear AI! Embrace it to help you do your work faster and efficiently." Now read this:
"The use of AI coding tools inside Oracle is enabling smaller engineering teams to deliver more complete solutions to our customers more quickly," Mike Silicia, Oracle's other co-chief executive, said earlier this month.
"Some 10,000 people are believed to have lost their jobs so far, one employee told the BBC on Tuesday, ..."
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm296jzzl9yo

What happens when the target employee reductions in European countries are not met? Do the remaining reductions spill over into non-core USA sites like Naperville, Murray Hill, and remote workers?

Why is Nokia still called Nokia and not Intel?

@dtd India has 18300 employees at the end of 2025. If they have to layoff people in India (which I highly doubt they will), it may be less than 200 due to overlapping NI portfolio between Nokia and Infinera. Or it can just be a communication scheme for legality reasons to the media to justify the ongoing layoffs outside of India (like in Europe, USA, etc.) to make it look more like an ethical company.

Looks like many HIGH performers didn't see much of a change in Salary and Bonus compared to last year. "Perform to Win" is all about making you perform like a slave and making the top leadership Win with their bounces (link below). You working 200% only helps Nokia leadership as you dedicate your time to the company instead of family.

https://www.tipranks.com/news/company-announcements/nokia-discloses-share-based-incentive-award-to-senior-manager-esa-niinimaki

@db5 you gotta be in the right tribe if you work in the US.

@ddw too many Indian low level managers and they did that

@dtd This is my opinion only.

According to my calculations the total global reduction by end of 2026 is 4656 (assuming same range 10.47% to 16.28% reduction applies to Infinera when calculating the total global reductions remaining).

If India is to reduce by 20%, that would mean 931 people according to my calculations.

https://www.nokia.com/system/files/2026-03/nokia-annual-report-2025.pdf (slide 72)
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1138639/000113863925000035/infn-20241228.htm
https://www.nokia.com/sites/default/files/2025-11/nokia-cmd-2025.pdf (slide 77)

Refer to link (Form 10K Infinera) : "As of December 28, 2024, we had 3,418 employees, with 2,190 of those employees located outside of the United States."

14000 in india:
https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/jobs/story/nokia-set-to-lay-off-14000-employees-indian-teams-likely-impacted-tchc-2887871-2026-03-27

@ddw which group was that?

Nokia has at least 92 jobs open when searching in google for "Nokia jobs", but many departments are laying off people and telling employees there is a HIRING FREEZE. If there is a hiring freeze within that department, why list the jobs online? Are they ghost jobs?

@ddw which group?

@OP Did anyone notice in the recent layoffs, one group laid off all the woman (and there were more than two woman) in the group and only kept the all men (more than eight men in the group)? And Nokia keeps telling the world how ethical it is cause it won an award where only two companies from Finland applied and the reward was given by country (if you read the fine print on how it gets selected) based on the number of companies that apply for the reward from that country. I recall reading an article on how they selected the winners. It was in some magazine a few years back. If someone finds the magazine article, read the footprint.
But they won't tell you that. However, they will tell you they got the award 10 years in a row.

@OP Is Nokia planning to layoff another 15000 to 20000 employees, especially at non-core site? It sure seems like that. Just do the math based on the 25% with low performance rating and over 10000 licenses for AI tools costing less than 300 Euros a year per license. Which do you think costs more for the company; your yearly pay or 300 Euros?
The pitch from the top levels is to tell you that your job won't be replaced and AI tools are just their to help you perform your job better and faster. But every time you feed AI a prompt, a json file, a configuration file, a text file, etc. to help you do your job better, you are actually training it to do YOUR job, your colleagues job, and other people within the company who are doing a similar job. Basically, not only are you causing yourself to be reduced in force (meaning layoff), but all colleagues at your location and around the world that do similar tasks (like coding or testing or code review or whatever). Now, get that through your head when you can't pay your bills or feed your family, smart donkey!

@czx Layoffs are on going everywhere globally. Work Councils in Europe have been notified and some countries have already offered packages. Deadline to take the offer is end of July.

@db5 Why would anyone want to work for Nokia is the main question? The pay is very low, the highest level management are sc-ms (they even give false statements to media to keep the share price up - kind of like TACO), and Chinese and Indians won't share knowledge or help other teammates outside of their country. The Chinese work for the company to share knowledge with its homeland companies, and the Indians are filled with ego trying to satisfy the white master (hence the 4 Core Sites in India).

@d2x
The company is riddled with politics and favoritism; managers can throw annual reviews and appraisals out of the window, and they won't be questioned at all. Managers retain those who serve their personal agenda and throw out good-performing employees, too. Force reduction is managed so badly at lower levels, even in US locations.

The CEO says he wants to have a flatter organization. But it's been almost a year now, and there are still layers upon layers of middle management "even after doing reorgs". Lower level employees continue to get laid off, but middle management protect themselves even with just less than 10-15 people under them (sometimes with only two people under them). This is ridiculous!
I hope the "new" HR head take a deep dive look into this and questions each middle managers role and the number of people they are managing. No role should be saved because of the decades of friendly relationship with upper management. This only hurts Nokia, not help it.

What organization?

@cvy happening now.

@OP When are the next round of layoffs in USA?

@OP
Go to section: Remuneration of the President and CEO
https://www.nokia.com/about-us/company/leadership-and-governance/remuneration/

Annual base salary EUR 1 495 000
Short-term incentive 2026
Target award: 125% of base salary
Minimum 0% of base salary
Maximum 281.25% of base salary
Metrics:
70% Comparable Operating Profit
30% Cash Release

Long-term incentives
Performance Shares 2025
Vesting in July 2028
Three-year plan

Target award: 200% of base salary
Minimum payout 0% of base salary
Maximum payout 400% of base salary (excluding the share price movement)
Performance metrics for 2025 Performance Shares:
50% Relative Total Shareholder Return (TSR)
40% Cumulative Reported EPS (adjusted for impairments and M&A)
10% GHG emission reduction (Scope 1,2 and 3)

@cms
https://www.tipranks.com/news/company-announcements/nokia-discloses-share-based-incentive-award-to-senior-manager-esa-niinimaki

What country is affected here from people in the mn department?

seriously in the core site's QA session people asking for relocation budget ? you are beeing fired not relocated

I'd say MN is the one NOT safe

Is mn safe?

@a3p i don't think so. only CTO is gone

NI Lead is probably the smartest guy in the room. He's not waiting to cash out, he's doing it right now. Why?
"THE 2028 GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE CRISIS"
https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic

@9vc entire team under ex CNS CTO was let go

How will Nokia NI revenues and profits look if hyperscalers are pulling the plug or slowing down the construction of data centers? Short supply of memory chips can bring the entire tech sector down - meaning more massive layoffs on the horizon.

"Microsoft data center layoffs"
https://www.tmj4.com/news/racine-county/microsoft-data-center-layoffs-leave-workers-stunned-after-relocating-for-tech-jobs

@9tv I heard a very high mid dbl digit % of global BL was hit including New Jersey, with more to come in future. That seems very high? Plus some CNS people were affected.

Entire DEPARTMENT in Nokia Bell Labs, Murray Hill, New Jersey, USA were affected by layoffs on Feb 26, 2026.

@9qs i heard some in research and naperville

@OP Who got the layoff notice today (Feb 26 2026)?
Which organizations?
How many?
Which location?

@48z By "managers" or "management employees", they are referring to non-exempt employees, and almost all engineers, researcher as well as people managers belong to this category. This is the term inherited from AT&T/Lucent days. Nokia assets and organizations in the US are basically passed from Lucent through mergers and acquisitions.

H1-B, OPT, L, F, O, etc visa scam. Interesting to know that the hiring consulting companies doesn't report to US gov't that the contract has ended and another one is not available for the H1B to start another contracting job right away. They keep paying the H1B worker (who has to pay the money back eventually) after starting contract with company B. What a scam! And all companies hiring or contracting H1B and other visa's know all about this.
https://youtu.be/WO5PJBLgnes?si=8A73egT7-E133zrh (gets interesting at time 9:30)
https://www.h1bexposed.tech/