Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

Why America Imports H1B Visa Brains Instead of Building its own Citizens.?

Every year, the United States opens its doors to tens of thousands of H-1B visa holders — highly skilled professionals, mostly from India and China, who fill roles in technology, engineering, and healthcare. Politicians and CEOs justify it as a necessity: “We don’t have enough qualified workers.” But maybe the real question is — why don’t we?

The U.S. government has built a system that rewards importing talent instead of investing in it. For decades, America has underfunded public universities, allowed tuition to skyrocket, and turned higher education into a business. A degree in computer science or engineering can now leave a young American buried under six figures of debt. Meanwhile, companies say they “can’t find talent” and turn abroad — where other nations educate millions of students in STEM for a fraction of the cost.

Countries like India and China don’t just produce skilled graduates — they do it through public investment. Their taxpayers subsidize the training of engineers who later come to work for Google, Microsoft, or Amazon in America. The U.S. benefits from that education for free. It’s a brilliant deal for corporations — and a terrible one for American students.

The H-1B program wasn’t meant to undercut American workers, but that’s often the effect. It’s a convenient tool for corporations to access cheaper, compliant labor without addressing the deeper issue: America’s refusal to make education accessible and affordable. Free tuition or debt-free public universities would build a domestic pipeline of talent that could easily compete with the global workforce. But such reforms don’t attract corporate lobbyists. Visa programs do.

So, the cycle continues. The U.S. imports the best minds from abroad, while millions of bright young Americans are priced out of their own future. The “land of opportunity” keeps outsourcing opportunity itself.

If America truly wants to stay competitive in the 21st century, it must stop renting its brainpower and start growing it.


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@pa no disrespect but you sound like a MAGA boomer.
Read the previous comments if you think H1B are cheap.
I know for a fact we couldn’t sell to a foreign country govt departments if they did not have 20% workers there and a few dozen here.

So we either lose a few millions or hire a few people from their side.

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Why does the US import H1Bs? Duh, because it's cheaper, and Big Tech makes big constrictions to both sides of the political aisle to keep that sweet, sweet, cheap labor a coming!

It's not any more complex than that. Both parties ignore labor demands of the tech people for a couple different reasons. The GOP is traditionally aligned with business interests, and the left wing only cares about labor if they form a union.

It's the same with media. They prefer to just run the same-old-same-old stories on H1Bs visas they've run for years. The ones that business feeds them that write themselves. Since there's no real representatives of tech workers, they have no source on an alternate story. So they quote the business story.

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@cc I've worked in IT for 30 years. While I could do your task, I just wouldn't, and likely would walk out of the interview. I put those d-mb coding tasks in the same category as the brain-teaser questions they used to ask at Microsoft. They're a red flag for me for a place that has no idea how to hire.

More like a modern day Rorschach test where people have invented a mythology around it, and think it's going to work better than just giving open ended questions about what you've done, how you've solved problems, etc.

As far as H1B skill, they're about average. Anyone who says they're "the top of the top!" is spouting off the talking points of business.

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Post ID: @p9+1k8mhmzkz

@bz Target announced 815 layoffs, not 8000.

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Post ID: @p8+1k8mhmzkz

Lol this thread is crazy

Here’s a simple test I give people applying to my group for technical roles.

Take a number like 639572 and print the digits in descending order using any language you are familiar with. I give them about 10 minutes and can always tell within the first two minutes who can and who can’t.
I have yet to meet a H1B applicant who couldn’t do it.

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@bz If this is acceptable to you and you think this is something we are simply to accept, all I have to say as a military veteran, once military folks catch wind or folks considering joining the military, I imagine they will quickly change their minds.

Who wants to serve and potentially doe for a country that has turned its back on its own?!

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For decades, American workers have been caught in a storm of economic forces that promised efficiency, innovation, and global competitiveness — yet delivered stagnation, insecurity, and displacement. The unholy trinity of H-1B visas, outsourcing, and artificial intelligence has reshaped the labor market, hollowed out the middle class, and eroded the social contract that once defined the American dream.
Amazon announced 30,000 corporate layoffs, 14,000 will be disposed next week on Tuesday. Target announced 8,000 layoffs…..etc. enjoy the calm before the storm.
What is the US government doing….. absolutely nothing. Politicians shut down the government begging corporate money for the coming election.

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China for example….
Over the last 45 years, a quiet deal reshaped the global economy. American corporations found cheap labor in China, and Chinese factories delivered endless goods to Walmart shelves. The arrangement made perfect sense for the short term: U.S. companies slashed costs, shareholders cheered, and American consumers enjoyed low prices.

But beneath that prosperity, two very different national strategies unfolded.

In the United States, profits from outsourcing flowed upward. CEOs, financiers, and corporate boards made billions. They bought yachts, penthouses, and private jets. They lobbied for tax cuts and deregulation. Yet they invested little in America’s workers or infrastructure. The factories that once anchored middle-class towns were shuttered, their jobs replaced by low-wage service work or nothing at all.

China took the opposite path. It used its manufacturing partnership with the West as a national project. The Chinese government reinvested export earnings into education, healthcare, infrastructure, and technology. It built high-speed rail, world-class universities, and an industrial base capable of producing everything from semiconductors to solar panels.

Today, China stands as an economic powerhouse — not just the world’s factory, but a technological leader. America, meanwhile, faces the consequences of its own short-term thinking: crumbling infrastructure, rising inequality, and a generation of workers priced out of the prosperity their labor once sustained.

The irony is striking. The American elite got richer by moving production overseas, but in doing so, they outsourced not only manufacturing — they outsourced America’s future.

If the United States wants to compete in the 21st century, it can’t rely on nostalgia or slogans. It must relearn what China understood decades ago: wealth built on speculation fades fast, but wealth built on people endures.

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