When your CEO states, "If you don't buy into our strategy, go work at another company" - you are, indeed, working for a toxic company that has ZERO respect for its employees. Truly unbelievable that BE made it to the CEO position!
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@f1 Identify yourself, Brian! Lol
@ak. AMEN & AMEN. SPOT ON.
Carmody all up Brian's butt. Meanwhile the vendors are taking us to the cleaners.
Internal IT teams are in chaos. Network team cannot get out of its own way. I heard the last audit of IT was a disaster. It will implode.
@OP I think the idea is to slowly bleed out the US presence so as to create a constant environment of stress and fear, but not so much as to generate buzz about collective action or unionization. I'm not sure which clown thought it was a great idea to spend millions refurbishing the Wilde Building for open "collaborative" (blue collar factory floor) architecture, but considering that even on anchor days, the place site 2/3rds empty, and with the ongoing layoffs without end, and the cost of maintaining it, being taxed for it, and keeping the lights on, maybe they should bulldoze the building and set up shop at the abandoned Tapas across the road. Everyone with whom I "collaborate" has either VRP'd, been JE'd, or is located either in India, or spread out all over the US.
And to be fair to BE, every corporation is doing it. Cigna of course sells its product and services to an American customer base, so I wonder if BE and his merry band of Jack Welch acolytes have considered who is going to purchase Cigna once the clientele is finally unemployed.
Maybe BE was installed to ensure that the ship runs aground with enough speed so as to ensure that the scrap can be harvested on the beach and sold more easily. To whom that would be is a mystery as the logical other players are going through the same exercise.
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@f1 what if they have stripped all of your job duties and won’t tell you what they want you to do?
@cf lmfao
@cn carmody is a total bootlicker and a-s. Actually most of the org he is in is the same way
Wow, that's quite the rant. But, it doesn't make much sense.
Isn't our job, which also is our method of receiving a paycheck, to deliver on the commitments of the company? If you're not aligned to those commitments, then a company that doesn't violate your sensibilities would be more suitable for you.
Cigna doesn't owe you. In fact, it's the reverse in this relationship. You go to work for an employer, you agree to deliver on what they ask in exchange for that precious paycheck.
@en and that’s why the internal IT teams are going away. Some Leadership hasn’t been running the teams effectively.
If they were effectively managing their teams, they would know you su-k and be pushing their leads to put you through the corrective action process.
Still here, no hint of any concerns from my management but I would be pleased to get some of that layoff severance.
Can you put in a good word for me during your next fa-t sniffing session? Not sure you have any other use.
Dan was a total plant. He sold us out on the India outsourcing. Total plant. He has kissed butt for years. No real questions or comments were asked.
@OP BE is a total narcissist dou--e. He reminds me of the dork in school that got beat up and needs to prove he’s made it. This f’ing tu-d owes every employee his total gratitude because without all of us, this ship would have sunk a long time ago. Every stupid decision made at the top cost us not him. I hope he reads this.
@cf LOL Dan Carmody asked the first question?? TOTAL PLANT
@c2 delivering and staying in these circumstances is not a win lol
Absolutely! Cigna has no loyalty to you so you should have none to them. They only care about their bottom line. Fire them before they fire you and let India have them.
@ad Most employee’s just need a F’in paycheck to live and raise a family OR care for their elders! HR is a fuggin joke and so are “annual goals!” Nobody on my team give’s a F about goals! Our goals are to get paid!!! So, therefore, our goals align with the ELT and the SLT. Show me the money and I’ll work until the sun doesn’t shine….but no….send my job to HIH you POS!! Way to lead. DAISNAID!! It’s the good ole boys club who take care of each other at this org! That's why EP is gone! Age old…it’s not what ya know but who ya “wind action!” Case in point….who asked the first planted question? Dan Carmody…the perpetual vest wearing, transformation failing, coat tail riding, pompous POS! The $hit is all planned! This is the WWE with White collar pawns! Enough Said!!
@bh don’t have to “boot lick” I deliver and watch bi--hes like you get eliminated.
Regardless of who sits in the CEO's chair, their commitment of putting the customer first means providing the best and most helpful experience - and we should all be committed to this.
That goes out the window however as soon it is at the expense of profit.
Insurance carriers were raking in rebates as a PBMs until the government said no more, denying pre-approvals until it became a PR nightmare, and selling cost containment products was like printing money until consultants call this out and pushed for caps on behalf of their clients. This is the reality of a publically traded company vs. a not for profit (which Brian subtly indicated in his town hall remarks).
That's nice but I'm not listening and there is no current mechanism to force a change. He can talk all he wants.
Don't you have some boots to go lick, chief?
Ok, so you were who BE was talking to.
I'll be just as aligned to the company's best interests as senior "leadership" is aligned to ours and I'm not changing first.
Unfortunately, this is a two way street and active disengagement can bring its own rewards. Believe me, I know.
In the recent past, increasingly restrictive RTO policies, reduced severance package (compared to November 2023), no earned PTO payout, employee monitoring, and threats of frequent layoffs have been made to reduce employee morale and encourage employees to leave on their own so Cigna could avoid paying severance. Now, the CEO has actually said the “quiet” part out loud, truly the equivalent of “the beatings will continue until morale improves” and “if you don’t like it, leave.” This is pi-s poor leadership at its worst. What was the board thinking?
I have already left the company but follow this forum out of curiosity for my former colleagues. I’m also stuck with Cigna through my spouse’s coverage. All of the disgruntled employees who can’t find other jobs because of the sh*tty economy are going to make this company a disaster area.
@ak Ok, I'll concede all of your points. And I agreed that the point was poorly made, but I also this is standard for any company. Leaders get to determine the approach to the customer and our job mostly is to implement that strategy. If that strategy violates your sensibilities, then it's time to move on.
I'll also concede that our leaders might be wrong about some decisions and there are some I do not like, as both a customer and shareholder. But, it's not my position to set the strategic direction for the company.
@ad the problem is he tried to pose it like he said that out of concern for the customers. It's not. It's about control and making people afraid so they don't question his leadership. If it were truly about the customers, there are so many things that would be done differently. For one, if it was really about the customers, he wouldn't support offshoring so many customer facing positions. Anyone who has worked in a customer facing position that requires transfers to/from offshore representatives can tell you what HORRIBLE customer service the offshore teams provide. And it's not just a language barrier. Even the non customer facing ones manage to sc--w up alot of stuff they touch. Dude is a CEO, gladly making multimillions a year in a money hungry, messed up system. But yea, us lowly workers are the main problem. Not their greed or cr-ppy policies and procedures...
Two things can be true at the same time.
It was a horribly delivered message and the wrong time for it. Could have been done with much more tact.
But....
He's also not wrong. If you're not aligned to the company's mission and direction, you 100% should get out and go find a company that is more aligned to your needs.
@a2 negative, he is right. You sound like a entitled Bi--h
He should be fired - yesterday. Where the he-l is the board of directors???