I got flagged. Anyone else?
The report is based on Aug data. I leave office around lunch time to avoid traffic and to take meetings in the afternoon at home.
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Never dealt with er, I take it. Gonna need an acknowledgement in a system for record, Hoss. It being on one of thousands of internal www sites and commutated verbally is a nothing burger. Might as well have never happened.
I’ve been staying in the office for 6.5 to 7 hours a day, just to beat traffic and logging on once I’m home, but I was told by my manager I have to stay for a solid 8, even though I wasn’t hitting on any reports
Pulling an August report is basically your warning that you haven’t complied in the past & they can track it. September or October on can be used for performance reviews. These reports aren’t anything new. Been around for a long time. The firm is now just cracking down. And search “understanding in office expectations” on teamworks. Been out there about 2 weeks so it’s documented firm wide. If your manager hasn’t relayed the info it’s on them as a performance issue themselves. “No one told me” won’t work when it is posted in writing weeks ago,
I would use AI to do my work. Simple as that. These folks are simpletons and wouldn't know the difference.
@fq I just completed a task with about a hundred mouse clicks even though I could have done it more efficiently with a lot less clicking. The keystroke tracking conflicts with the efficiency goals.
@a3 You don't have to badge out at some of the offices
The very notion of monitoring computer activity just makes no sense at all. Some people literally have jobs that have days where work cannot be done because we don’t complete widgets or push buttons or have things “to do” that aren’t our project. There’s red tape, there’s waiting on LOB availability, there’s lining up resources for the project … and we can’t work on something else while these activities happen and a lot of the time it’s waiting on seniors to make the decisions that take up time.
So how does this work? Is it 8 hours between a certain period of time? Or can I do 6 to 2 if I’m a morning person and prefer to beat traffic on both ends of the commute?
That would require a level of performance management competence that simply doesn't exist here. I've been coasting, shirking, skating, slacking, whatever you want to call it, for years and I'm not going to change.
Good luck with those layoff fantasies, chief.
I’ve heard from several people that have seen the reports and they said it’s currently only flagging people under 5 hours. Can anyone confirm if they’ve been given a warning if they have been doing 6 or 7?
This thread makes it clear that there are still plenty of people at WF getting paid to do nothing. Dont come whining when you get send to the unemployment line.
"in-person work is critical for relationship-building, coaching, innovation, and teamwork"
note, nothing in there about doing day-to-day tasks. grandiose images of us holding hands and singing kumbaya are what we are supposed to aspire to.
there are no relationship-building, coaching, innovation, and teamwork opportunities in-office. that time is too precious to squander on basic tasks. we are forbidden to leave and work where we can properly focus on those tasks.
staring dead-eyed into the void is the least-damaging alternative we have. it's that or willful misuse/waste of corporate resources. one or the other.
The question becomes: can a Sept/Oct mandate be used against you for performance in 2025 from an August report that you and your manager cannot actually see?
@dy so it’s some kind of a formal warning or is this an undocumented warning?
@a6 yep my boss told me last week that 8 hours is the new thing. The next day he calls me and say you're not meeting expectations
I'm doing the 8 hours BUT: still scrolling social media for 3 hours a day, taking long lunches and doing the bare minimum. 😌
@b7 so you don't have enough work? Sounds like a good candidate to be laid off
@ba what prevents them from warning anyone? Nobody has even mentioned any sort of punishment.
My manager told me I also showed on an August report based on 4 hours in office. Are we living in a Squid Game?
There wasn’t an enterprise wide expectation until September. It hasn’t been cascaded to everyone. How can they warn? At least they can send an email.
They can make me sit at a desk for eight hours if it makes them feel better,but they can't stop me from staring dead-eyed into the void for 4-5 of those hours instead of doing whatever "work" they think I'm supposed to be doing during that time
@a9 inaccurate. Why do I say this? I know folks who have been communicated to and they are 4.5+ hours as informed by their managers. So the “getting a talking to” threshold is at least “less than 5 hours in office” if not higher.
However there are those of us who are much lower and we have not gotten any kind of notification. I know my visits are measured in minutes per week forget hours per day.
My big boss' org is targeting "not meet in office" AND "low/medium activity on company network".
If i have to be in the office 6 hours i will stay 7 and be done. No evenings or weekends. Nope. I will not take on extra work
On Friday our manager told us to leave early and get a head start on the long weekend. NO! None of us left early! We appreciated the sentiment but we don’t want to end up on a report for non-compliance!
Yes, it is evil. When it costs time / money for zero benefit.
Sounds like you're at 4 hrs and under. That's who they are targeting
The expectation has been 6 hours for a whole. Problem is may people have to work early mornings and may not get enough of a break to get into the office. Somebody in my group got a talking to but my boss knows what was going on and has to donor anyway.
Set your hours and block out time. Don’t take early morning meetings.
OP. Be happy you were able to have that flexibility before. Not anymore.
I’m not going out of my way outside of in office hours to take meetings etc.
I don't see how they can ding us for not meeting an expectation before that expectation was clearly communicated to us by our managers. My group wasn't told until mid-September.
@a4 evil is expecting employees to work a full day in the office
I'm very curious how granular these fools are going to get watching our every move.
Morale could not be any lower and they really want to see how far they can push it.
Simply amazing, and pure evil. I'd not want to be in their shoes in the end. People are going to do even less now, myself included!
My manager stated that Sr leadership re-communicated the expectations again to them to relay to EEs. Said very clearly they are monitoring 1) login/logout time and 2) badge in/out time on reports. They are watching.
my entire office pretty much did the same because no one communicated the expectations of in office hours
@OP “ I leave office around lunch time to avoid traffic and to take meetings in the afternoon at home.” …. Not anymore OP.