I know multiple people who filed factual ethics complaints and these were dismissed with no action being taken. Is HR behind this charade?
It used to not be this way. The last couple of years has been a s&$@ show with HR and Ethics. Anyone know what’s happening there in HR or Ethics or both teams?
@52g no, it is not okay.
Nail on the head. Ethics is a performative art. Once you try and turn it into a science, you are forced to make some difficult decisions that often hurt growth, profit, efficiencies, etc. It may be why the Chief Ethics Officer left and definitely contributed to the gong show manager mentioned in this thread.
OP - are you nuts? Why would you expect anything else from an ethics team at a large bank? You are the joke and an embarrassing one at it!
“Readiness for a senior leadership position”
Dude, do you honestly think you were (or are) ready for senior leadership? Every team you touched in your 15+ years hates you with a passion. Others who watched how you operated have nothing but negative things to say about you and are happy you’re now on the other side of town. Your performance as a “Senior leader” was probably one of the most pathetic performances any EVP has ever given at the bank, and it is exactly why you got booted and stripped of your title.
Instead of slobbering all over your keyboard and blaming others, maybe you should think about the lives you have negatively influenced and have some sympathy for the he-l you put your teams through in the name of “it’s just business.” There are dozens of people who have you #1 on their list of worst bosses ever, and not a soul has you as their best boss ever. Name one person who you built up in your years at the bank.
I think the ship making honest, constructive changes has either sailed or never arrived in port to begin with. That’s how it usually works for those who have narcissistic personality disorder.
@506 This isn't a courtroom. People are sharing their experiences with you Ryguy as peers, directs, and from other teams. Pushing for names chills honest feedback. The focus on who said it instead of what's being said only underscores the point. With 100+ consistent comments, the pattern itself deserves attention. This isn't one person or one person's crusade to "take you down". I hope you'll reflect on what's being said and on your career trajectory, and make honest, constructive changes while you still can.
Is it wrong to be accused of plagiarism by audit, only to work the strings behind the scenes to have the auditors muffled and shuffled out of the company? Or is that just life in Corporate America, where we have winners and losers? Also, is someone who engages in that type of conduct “senior leader material”?
Meh, we’ve all had good, bad and indifferent bosses at different times in our careers. We all like to think we’re “senior leader material” and sometimes we just aren’t. Or not at that time or in that role or at that company.
Shooting the messenger isn’t helpful or healthy. In fact, that kind of behavior indicates a lack of readiness for a senior leader position.
You feel wronged, I get it. You’ve publicly stated that. Time to move on.
Why isn’t there any discussion of the people he pushed aside, stepped on, denigrated, or otherwise marginalized during his reign?
Is it OK to tell a woman that she isn’t senior leader material because of what she looks like?
Is going from EVP to SVP a promotion? The bank does that only to top performers and stand up leaders…
Mean people su-k. Stop being mean.
(And if you really had IP access, you’d know that other post was not, in fact, Andy, nor is this one. However, you don’t and, since this is an anonymous site where anybody can pretend to be anybody… Q.E.D.)
Tell us you are Andy without telling us you are Andy. You’re a clown, man. Accept it, and let it go, but everyone knows you won’t.
If you know there were 83 discrete IPs logging comments then…
(1) you have uncovered this site is exposing pii, well done and please report as it goes against the site’s privacy policy, or
(2) you have access to the server logs, which is doubtful, or
(3) you were carefully masking your own IP via a VPN or proxy server, because you needed to pose as multiple people.
There are not 83 people who know who he is AND who read and respond to this site.
I don’t know what’s more embarrassing for AR, the fact that people are piling on him, or the fact that he hits the website from the same IP address four times to defend himself. News flash, before you came on to defend yourself, there were posts from 83 unique IP addresses. Four of the last five posts, not including this post, came from the same IP address.
@4zq 5 star post there
@4zb Who are you? Why are you here? Do you work at USB? If so how long have? Did you get fired? When? What was the reason? Are you bitter? Are you unhinged? Do you have a life outside of work? What does it involve? Do you want to work somewhere else? Have you looked? Why or why not?
@4zb Sigh. So predictable. Let’s see: his job was eliminated because roles are often reconstituted based on business need and not conspiracies; his survey scores — if lagging — can be explained as a halo effect of what most managers are dealing with in a today’s dumpster fire corporate world; and anyone with email and access to a computer can file erroneous ethics and HR investigations just to f-ck with someone they don’t like. The fact nothing happened with them can be seen as proof it was personal smoke and no actual fire. Despite what some may like to believe, no one has time to “save” bad managers as a general business tactic. And no one has that much knowledge of “where the bodies are buried” to be indispensable. This ain’t Yellowstone. If it is, we’re desperately short on Kevin Costners and Kelly Reillys. As to the eras and people from all over: that’s cute. Everyone out here is anonymous; there is no way to say that’s not coming from one person pretending to be multiple — or friends of a friend who love to jump on smear campaigns like it’s a convoy. All plausible, and I’d hope people reading this site are smart enough to see those possibilities before they just accept the reputation as----------n of person trying to earn a living.
Why was his job eliminated? Why were his survey scores garbage? Why was he the subject of multiple HR investigations? Why are dozens of people who are from different parts and eras of the bank coming forward now?
@4yd he hasn’t done anything. Clearly, there is one person here posting with a vendetta posing as multiple people and getting away with it because the person being slandered unendingly is too good a human to fight back or demand removal under the site’s rules. It’s ridiculous and a waste of everyone’s brains to read another word of it or offer up more oxygen to this je-k’s fire. And even as I type this, I know the OP is thinking about all the ways theyre going to attack this comment and then sit back and smugly push back their keyboard like “d-mn, take that! I’m so smart and powerful under my Anonymous handle.” Trash. All of it.
What does he do now? Why isn’t he getting laid off? Seems like a prime candidate based on all of the concerns about him.
It is perplexing that this level of toxicity from a leader was permitted for as long as it was, but the man who everyone hated finally got his comeuppance. Bravo Ry-guy!
This is the problem with people like Ry-guy. Their needs come first, and that means if the entire organization goes down because of their misbehavior, so be it. Had Ryall been in the military, he’d be gone immediately and probably court martialed.
Last I checked, it is a crime to lie to or conceal information from banking regulators, that’s why all of the trainings talk about civil monetary penalties but also criminal exposure. Is it that much to ask an EVP not to break the law?
His new boss is a MC member and doesn’t have the time to validate the work people under him are doing. Banking is supposed to be about honorable people doing trustworthy things. Andy is the exact opposite.
@4gg his new boss will see the Ry-guy bs and he’ll be gone in a month
Always follow the money.
Ethics is there to protect the bottom line. KPIs are likely number of lawsuits and government fines, not optics or what employees think is fair and just.
Racist and misogynistic commentary to his team? Check
Misuse of corporate credit card (assuming they issued him one)? Check
Taking credit for work he didn’t perform? Check
It’s been about 4 weeks, how many code of ethics violations has he already committed in his new role?
Heard that the ethics lady sent a farewell email to a select few today. If only the walls of her office could talk…
Based on what she knows, is there any doubt her severance package looks quite a bit different than the average employee package?
And wow btw, you guys really hate Andy!
@43e wasn't he jettisoned to the "hinterlands"? What does he plan to do now?
And the fact that all of these comments about the man are coming under a header of “ethics team is a joke” suggests that the traditional process for reporting on bad behavior (ethics team) is non-functioning. It would be interesting to know how many names are on his list for revenge or retaliation. It has to be long.
@43e your comments ring true. I mean, just look at how many people have commented on this board - his peers, former colleagues and other employees at USB.
I would be careful about providing too much detail, Ry-guy has a taste for revenge and he is probably already targeting those who he thinks have wronged him.
My boss is a good person with good morals and I know it tore him apart working for Andy. Just incredibly sad.
Did he “out” someone who confided in him?
His excellent detective work contributed to the downfall of a well-liked male colleague who was attracted to men, we can leave it at that.
Since we’re doing a eulogy here, it can’t be forgotten how much of a homophobe this man was. From his very early days in credit risk management. It drove him to do some outrageous things for outrageous reasons and to make strange bedfellows at the office.
He’s been a laughingstock his entire career to those who were at his level or higher. They all knew how people really felt about him based on how he treated and talked about his team, as if they were subhuman. He’s getting his comeuppance now and there’s not a person in the company who won’t hesitate to kick him while he’s down. That’s Ry-guy’s legacy…heading into the twilight of his career constantly worrying about who might take him down next.
As a former peer, I take great delight in seeing this, and I know I’m not alone.
He no longer works in risk. He was demoted, stripped of his EVP title, “optimized” from a salary perspective, assigned to an area of the bank where people skills don’t matter, and moved to a run down location with no assigned office.