Guys be careful, if you reject the relocation notification you will be terminated immediately, don’t expect the two weeks time to get your things together, 5 employees in my office were walked to the door yesterday in a very humiliating way, they didn’t expect this to happen, some has banking apps on their phones they didn’t get the chance to transfer or delete the apps or delete the personal information
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"Laughing at a victim who just kicked out of their job calling them stupid is not mean or heartless? Some people don't want to carry two phones."
Please read what you posted again. Sigh.
I agree with the dont put personal stuff on your COU, I have had a COU for well over a decade, even my Google account on my COU is dedicated to my AT&T apps and not my personal Google account.
Depending on your position and what you have access to, it is in the companies best interest to walk you immediately and never at any company are they going to let you delete anything from that point of a company owned device. You could be deleting important company information.
This comes from someone who is impacted with the relocate or leave, just waiting for my notice to come in. I feel bad for everyone who is being impacted by this but my advice of not having anything personal on a company owed device comes from a place of helping and protecting my fellow workers who like many of us are getting screwed by this stupidity...
"Not being heartless or mean that the person was let go, just calling it stupidity for having personal items on a company owned phone"
Laughing at a victim who just kicked out of their job calling them stupid is not mean or heartless? Some people don't want to carry two phones. I would suggest everyone doing the exit interview from home if they were concerned about their laptop or COU phone getting seized right away.
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"I know plenty of people who have personal stuff on their work laptops or COU phones doing just fine."...
Company policy clearly states not to use your COU for personal reasons. The fact that the person that was let go didn't have time to delete personal apps/banking info from his COU is their fault alone. T can come and take my phone right this minute and I wouldn't care less because it's all company apps and info.
Not being heartless or mean that the person was let go, just calling it stupidity for having personal items on a company owned phone.
"If you hate the company so much, why do you keep giving them your time and energy?"
Because he's craft making his retirement benefits and severance far superior to yours.
It warms my heart seeing management get hit with this. Bootlickers who toed the company line their whole career are being left with nothing but hurt feelings.
If you hate the company so much, why do you keep giving them your time and energy?
"Anyone that has personal emails, items, apps on their work laptop or phone are actually id--ts.
Perhaps that's why he was fired and not because he rejected to relocate."
It saddens me to see people here so mean to their suffering fellow workers. Adding insult to another human being's injury is not nice. Plus, that's just not true. I know plenty of people who have personal stuff on their work laptops or COU phones doing just fine. I know some former colleagues converted their COU phone number to personal phone after leaving the company because they have been using the same mobile number they for both business and personal purposes. COU policy allows the conversion.
I better start removing NSFW photos from my work computer just in case.
It warms my heart seeing management get hit with this. Bootlickers who toed the company line their whole career are being left with nothing but hurt feelings.
"AT&T wants you, all of you, all of your life"
Until AT&T doesn't want you anymore.
Not much fun is it. Welcome to the Union Dreg life of surplus every quarter.
ok, this is plain STUPIDITY of the man that had personal apps/banking on his COU. Plain Stupidity and perhaps is why he got fired.
Anyone that has personal emails, items, apps on their work laptop or phone are actually id--ts.
Perhaps that's why he was fired and not because he rejected to relocate.
"It warms my heart seeing management get hit with this. Bootlickers who toed the company line their whole career are being left with nothing but hurt feelings."
What do you think you do every time you get a paycheck?
RTO or resignation accepted.
Good.
"As I have said before, not really more than 1500 people on this board"
This doesn't matter. For example, in a group of 1,000 made up of 600 men and 400 women used in an analysis by gender, a representative sample can consist of a mere 5 members, 3 men and 2 women, or 0.5 percent. What matters is how the sample is chosen not how large it is. Arguably, most people that come here are disgruntled. I'd counter by saying what is seen on the board here mimics the water cooler talk on days those of us who go to an office care to take a listen.
It warms my heart seeing management get hit with this. Bootlickers who toed the company line their whole career are being left with nothing but hurt feelings.
"Let them leave and pay them their 2 weeks."
Well if they still pay for the last two weeks, the who want to stick around anyway? Plus most of us probably still have enough vacation to cover 2-3 weeks anyway.
I’m pretty sure the warning means wait till the deadline 14th day and decline if that’s the decision.
It’s amazing how many jerks works for AT&T ~ Ignorant jerks and yet they gripe about JS. Pretty pathetic. Thanks for the heads up.
Better than any employee survey and for some it gives a taste of how dysfunctional this place can be. Leadership can’t afford to lose the upper hand with this and there are so many ways they still could.
Not really. As I have said before, not really more than 1500 people on this board (max 2k). Just look at the number of views a thread gets. Even those numbers are likely inflated because of people re-reading the post from a different device and non employees also viewing.
Weaning u think about, why let a disgruntled employee hang around. Let them leave and pay them their 2 weeks. Back when they let people hang around for 60 days really did not make much sense. Especially in IT with folks having root password,
Weak post - no details. Cannot remove personal stuff from phone - their problem COU rules clearly state don’t 7se it for personal use.
You can’t change your mind so you are escorted out. That’s all
I would think this is position specific. Because groups like those under JVB have been told if they decline the offer they will be off payroll in October. If this position had an earlier off payroll date then HR can move forward with and in your position now but still paying you through your off payroll date. do you want a network engineer who said they will not move to stay on payroll for another 30 days and risk them doing something to the company network? I don’t think this is how every decline is going to be handled. Don’t believe everything you read on this board applies to your scenario.
Might be a d-mb question, employment at will and all, but if you get a letter outlining specific decision and off pay roll dates, wouldn't it count as some kind of contract? And if so, if they turn around and terminate you on the spot once you give them your decision, would it be a some kind of breach of said contract?
“The person who was terminated on Friday placed his official rejection on Monday, HR setup a video call with him on Friday and right after the call he was walked out to the door, so it wasn’t immediately after his rejection but immediately after the HR call”
This is totally normal
The person who was terminated on Friday placed his official rejection on Monday, HR setup a video call with him on Friday and right after the call he was walked out to the door, so it wasn’t immediately after his rejection but immediately after the HR call
"Clean your phone
Clean your laptop of all personal things
Clean your desk"
To be fair, you shouldn't really have anything personal on your work laptop or phone to begin with, but yeah, we should still be prepared for any outcome, no matter how made up it sounds. It would be pretty hard for them to "walk me out" of my home office, though.
"All employees have received notice, so the time to be making final decisions on relocation is now. No additional time should be needed when employees are asked to commit. If you haven’t talked to family members and made a decision, you are behind."
Bullsh-t. The only notice most of us have received so far is that there will be another notice. We don't know where they want us to go. We don't know when. We don't know anything, really, so no, no one is making any decisions on relocations yet. What if I assume they would want me to go to Dallas, and do market research, consider pros and cons, and make a decision, for them to show up and demand we move to Atlanta instead, and have to decide right that moment? No way in he-l, and only a complete id--t and a company shill would ever claim it's in any way reasonable.
For your exit interview get a personal cellphone and record the meeting, you may need this recording if you have to sue the company for misconduct or violation of any of your rights
"You officially rejected the notification
What do you expect?"
Might be different in different parts of the company, but from what we heard from some people, there was an off payroll date if you reject, for example, July 7, so I'd say it's reasonable for people to expect them to honor that. At least.
“ Executive leadership absolutely reviews this board.”
Better than any employee survey and for some it gives a taste of how dysfunctional this place can be. Leadership can’t afford to lose the upper hand with this and there are so many ways they still could.
People come here for info because they aren’t getting it from their org. Of course disgruntled people know this and exploit using the oldest trick in the book, propaganda. Whether it is the citizens of a country struggling at war or a company struggling to survive, demoralizing humans is a powerful we-pon.
This is the only voice for many. While it’s unlikely the company will do a 180, seems that there is surprise if not concern that the workforce hasn’t completely capitulated.
Stay in good terms with your manager
I don’t think the HR will setup exit interview for you without his knowledge
I am applying for all job openings around my town, I am quitting as soon I get something decent
I am done with this company
No way this is true.
HR invitation for recorder video call in the office means exit interview
I think HR is worried of some employees retaliation on termination by damaging the network or services. So the termination is done immediately. Make sense to me
BS. there has to be an exit interview to inform you of COBRA and all that jazz. The only way I could see this happening is if they were threatening or posed some kind of physical danger.
I agree. Executive leadership absolutely reviews this board. Way too many employees have indicated planning to lie about moving and trying to hold on for another year repeatedly on here.
Well, when everyone on this board says they refuse to train their replacement and will commit sabotage, I can see it happening. I'm not saying I agree, but I can see why they'd do it.
Wfh, if HR setup a video call with you in the office, push the meeting as far as you can and be prepared
Clean your phone
Clean your laptop of all personal things
Clean your desk
Be mentally and emotionally prepared and don’t over react
It is not end of the world, it is just a new beginning for your career
“I was there in San Ramon office when this happened, it was sad to see the guy scream and shouting while walked to the door, I think he over reacted as well, his reaction made the security guys to push him out violently.”
Was any video footage captured? What was he screaming?