Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

People that are against RTO, we’re they always WFH, pushed to WFH at some period before Covid or were they WFH because of it? What are the job roles of these people who hate RTO?

Ultimately it doesn’t matter. People who are angry about this are undoubtedly angry about other things as well. It’s in your psyche. This is a corporate game. Your three choices are to play, change the rules of the game or quit and play a different game.

@cyc+1lAlEz4b

You're drunk charlie, go take a nap. Morale will not improve until this blatantly stupid policy ends. The execs can do whatever they want, but they have no control over how employees respond to it.

The entire intent is to tank morale so people quit without severance. No other explanation makes any sense. Driving to a building full of people I don't work with is a complete waste of time. The execs know this and want the continuous suffering of indignities to do what they are incapable of doing, reducing headcount in a sane manner.

OP, this board has 1-maybe 2- people posting multiple times about RTO. They are losers that have nothing to do but act like you are the outlier.

@cyc+1lAlEz4b, if you don't work for Corp Communications or HR already, they should hire you. That could've been sent out as a mass email to the enterprise.

Unfortunately it also shows how completely out of touch you are. I have not only worked from home for the last 15 years, but have also led a globally dispersed team that was extremely effective at collaborating and communicating.

Just because you are incapable of working a certain way does not mean you should get to dictate how the rest of the workforce works. You want to RTO? Knock yourself out. But "Return to Opportunities" is complete and utter bulls**t.

Come to Fort Mill office and I will tell you

Morale was dead before the pandemic. Leadership didn't care then and they probably won't care now.

I like RTO but I'm in an office with high cubicle walls and assigned seats. We don't have to pay for parking and it's a short commute. If I didn't have that, I would also hate it. That being said, it's obviously not a hub so I'm on the chopping block.

Over my last 20 years, tech roles have devolved into less real work and more mind numbing garbage flows.

The only logical reason to stay at WF is remoteness, being as distant as possible to shield oneself from an office of bleak professional futures. This is kind of ironic, the actual work itself has been pushed aside to focus on the work experience.

It's a lose-lose situation, the jobs have become more boring while companies are giving less reasons for workers to make sacrifices to keep their jobs.

So what is all this nonsense as I process this out loud from above?

It's the cold truth that remote work will not solve our problems. Yes it would serve as a short term solution, but the long term pains remain.

RTO = dinosaur-thinking.
Work anywhere will be the norm in time, just like cars, computers, etc. replaced horse and buggy, pen/paper/Xerox, etc. Progress marches on despite how much stale thinkers try to fight it. COVID proved it works. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, no matter how hard the CRE-dependent try to stop it.

We'll just have to look back in embarrassment at how long it took due to archaic thinking.

A lot of people take for granted their paycheck while at the same time WF expects so little from you to earn it.

Workers have to get a paycheck from somewhere and many of us have become so complacent and less self aware of our situation by staying at WF too long.

This RTO activist uprising with belief that we can socially pressure a corporation to approve full time remote work is a fool's errand. On scale, humans do their very best together.

Not that our jobs at WF are filled with magic, but after the dust settles in what is a short term situation (media pumping puff pieces and common workers falling for it), but it is only collaborating in real life that we can advance quicker and faster. Hiding behind a screen in a cafe' and being successful and happy is a storyline in a movie that is not reality.

What WF really needs to figure out is how to incentivize workers to do their very best.

• Culture. Been bad for 20 years, no matter the change in leadership. Figure that out now.

• Promotions. Define a clear trajectory for career advancement. Humans need something to work towards, trapping us in same role year after year is degrading.

• Performance reviews. Find a system that objectively measures an individual's true value and reward accordingly.

RTO should mean "Return To Opportunities".

I have worked in many offices throughout the country and they are all equally awful environments. I usually can’t tolerate it after just 1-2 hours in the office where I feel a deep need to leave. I couldn’t imagine doing a full 8 hours of it. Fu-k that.

Leadership knows that the majority of people don't like RTO and that the majority of people don't have team members in the same location. And that all this magical collaboration isn't happening. And they know that morale is terrible.

They simply don't care.

Once I figured out that they were not oblivious to the things I could clearly see, my frustration in trying to get them to realize it and for them to have an a-ha moment was gone. Unfortunately it was quickly replaced with "they really just want to prove they can control us / they clearly hate us / they are purposefully trying to make us miserable."

What I can't figure out is why they want morale to be so low - as that appears to be their objective and has been for some time. It could be that they want people to quit to save on severance payments, but the damage that the low morale is doing would surely erase any financial benefit gained by not having to pay severance. But then I refer myself to my previous statement: "They simply don't care."

Your opinions are irrelevant. Shut up and do your monkey work.