I know 3 coworkers fired today for coffee badging... all of them would come in at 7 and leave by 12... terminated for violating policy. I know several people who coffee badge for for far less hours, management is cracking down on this quietly... you have been warned
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@ea Yes!!!! I have found a new work bestie! Lol
@nk Before Covid, it was 10 days per month, in the office. Not 3x a week. One could start the month with a quick 10 days in a row, then not come in all the rest of the month. Next month rolls around and you could continue at home until around the 15th of the month. basically doing 30 days of WFH every other 30 day period. I went to my Galveston Island condo like this for years.
They shouldn't be targeting and firing the coffee badgers. They should be exposing and firing the managers that were well aware of their team members that were doing it all the time and getting away with it.
@cz What did you do before WFH during COVID? Lazy and entitled you are.
I don't have DRs. I hate my manager, his manager and his manager. I do way more work from home without being interrupted by stupid lazy a$$ co-workers (who I also can't stand) taking up my time with their in-office gossip and meaningless chatter.
So, I go in to the office, urin8, refill my water bottle and then head back home.
I think my manager (who is an id--t) is intimidated by me. But I do the work of 4 people and clean up for others' mistakes, so he stays quiet.
Agree with the others that the Letter of Education is the first step, then 6 months on notice to "amend your ways". There is nothing in any policy that says how many hours I need to sit in an open germ-pit.
That said, BofA and Merrill are "At Will" employers, which means they can basically terminate you any time they want for some reasonable-sounding offense.
Dust of your resume, and if you do need to sit in the office for any number of hours, use at least one of those hours networking with anyone and everyone you know, calling former colleagues, bosses, whomever who might possibly know someone who can offer you a job.
If you move to another firm, at least you'll probably be paid more.
And if anyone wants me to haul my a$$ in to sit at some f-ing desk, they need to pay me more. Which is probably not this place.
Agreed @a3 it is a long time coming, it was getting ridiculous with people coffee badging, pajama badging.
BS, there’s no policy that states how long you have to be in the office. They are not currently tracking hours just swipes.
Typically it starts with a LOE (Letter of Education) before a proceeding to a warning, next a final warning then termination. As a manager it took me over 6 months to fire someone unreliable that had multiple no call/no shows (couldn't be reached). The only time I've seen someone go directly to termination was involving a financial fraud case which is a major code of conduct violation.
Nothing in the code of conduct specifies the number of hours one must be in the office for it to count as a "day" so it may be worth their time to talk to an attorney to see what options are available to them. Depending on the state, they may not have legal recourse (i.e. right to work they don't even need a reason to fire you).
If they were scanning badges for others that would be a security violation and result in immediate termination.
Just my 2 cents..
Unionize. These financial services companies drain the life out of us and then kick us to the curb. It is only getting worse with the claim that AI can replace people. Can AI deposit a paycheck into this lousy rotten bank?
Coffee badger don’t care…
@cv I did not know that there was an option. If 6 hours is confirmed, then I can leave 2 hours earlier and finish at home. The objective is to beat the traffic. And then there is the managerial factor where the option will be squashed.
OP should learn that 5 hours is not called coffee badging.
6 hours enforcement is starting april 1st.
Interesting optics to announce draconian policies that affect employees during EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION MONTH.
@OP 7-12 is 5 hours, then if you take an hour lunch, you are at 6 already. Log back in at 1pm and work 3-4 more hours from home... and they still don't like it?
Global Technology, Data Management, heard from leadership that 3 days per week (full day each, so 6-8 hours a day would be my guess), will be enforced
As they should be cracking down. If you’ve been told to come into office three days per week and you don’t it’s nobody’s fault but your own, enough said! What would you like the power to do?
That’s sad. 7 to 12pm is not bad. I am sure they finished up at home which seems reasonable.
Has this policy been officially announced? I thought we are getting a my learning course to explain the expectations.
What LOB?
I know one got a heads up about it from their manager, had a meeting the next day with HR and gave her a formal warning. They came in everyday for the full 8 hours... 2 weeks later and she got terminated this week, so I guess it didn't matter. BOA will be bleeding soon cause of this...
Do you know if they received a formal warning before they were terminated?
Yup. Expect a formal announcement coming soon...
This has been a long tome coming. Not that I agree with this, but I can confirm firsthand that this is the case