I'm genuinely wondering, our work is continuously outsourced to many countries with the bulk being to Argentina AND India, but India seems to bear most of the brunt and hate comments. Is it legit because Argentina does a better job than India? Or people just don't like Indians for variety other reasons?
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Agree would rather live and work in Argentina than a sh-thole like India.
At the end of the day...indian engineer are definitely better than argentina..fact
There’s not much worse than having an early morning meeting at 6 or 7am and having to listen to that Indian accent trying to figure out what they’re saying while half asleep.
Malbec & Steak & Tango versus Smelly Food and Caste-based racist society … facts are facts and biases are real for a reason
@n8 Pakistan for war on terrorism. India for balancing China. I wouldn't call either one a close ally.
I prefer that we use Pakistan over all these countries. It’s also the best US ally right?
Have you been to Argentina? Have you been to India? Yes, there is a difference.
so it seems that most folks that responding/voting are OK with outsourcing works outside US or other traditional high cost countries as long as the work quality is good/somewhat OK. I guess that's just the reality of our business.
Quality of work in BA is 20x better than that of Bangalore.
The time zone issues with BTC and KLTC just add insult to injury. I wouldn’t be happy with outsourcing technical work even if it were in a compatible time zone, but doing that AND making everybody have frequent early morning and late evening calls so much worse. Nothing can get done with any sense of time criticality. At least with BA you can have a back-and-forth during normal business hours.
Those in the Argentina and Brazil are hands down better than anything in India. It's not close
@a4 100%
@OP looks like you are an Indian and are looking to disprove the know facts.
India timezone is awful. Also hard to understand them sometimes.
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People are way nicer and less racist in Argentina. Unless you are from upper caste from INDIA, a workplace controlled by Indian managers is he-l on earth.