3rd of November will start Layoffs in EHQ and PTC and week after in ELC. In the meantime, ITC grow rapidly - hundreds of new positions. I have the impression that the company is moving to India. I wonder if it's because Sr LT in GT come from India…
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Ha, all of EMEA GT will now be ITC
@qz so - I do not support RAT or the work shifting to ITC, I am in EMEA and part of the impacted group - butt as much as there were mistakes made in GT, and some of them were really bad, they are not the sole reason of the layoffs this week, Nike's sales drop and quality of products is not on GT.
People are bitter - I am too, people can blame GT leaders, but truth of the matter is
all the things that happened in GT would have been covered up without layoffs if only Nike as a company was thriving , GT played it's part - but blaming only GT when other factors had impacted the decision as much if not more is where I draw a line at.
Nike is trying to "save money" not because GT failed, but because Nike lost touch with Wholesale partners , marketing, and focused on Technology more than innovation on shoes.
Did Rat misuse the power given to him, yes - is the quality of ITC not as good as in WHQ or even EHQ, as of right now that is true, but they are new and have not seen the culture or the exposure required to be a good resource.
maybe it won't and EHQ will grow again - time will tell.
Teams in EMEA were awesome, maybe I'll get to work with some of them again!
@rb great to stand-up for your own people but let’s be serious, ITC provides cheap & low quality work, then Nike will need to hire once again to clean after the mess
@r0 until then what are you going to do? ITC is power house and soon will be global IT my brother's and sisters are best workers and will replace all Amerikan and european engineers
Why do the loudest, least productive people always seem to always thrive?
Ever notice how the people who talk the most and contribute the least always manage to survive every reorg? They move in groups, feed on others’ accomplishments, and somehow stay untouched no matter what happens. It’s exhausting watching them bully others with lower titles, take credit and pretend to be indispensable when everyone knows the truth.
It feels like EHQ will never change, too many toxic cliques protecting each other instead of focusing on real work or talent.
Not allowed to mention names so I'll sign myself as:
The only way our CEO will begin to care is when the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission starts investigating the bias Indians have towards laying off brothers. All the anonymous complaints about the ATL office can be IP traced back to our ITC office.
@m8 It feels disingenuous that you’ve glazed over The RAT’s influence on Nike’s downward spiral.
His offshoring kickback scheme (ghost headcount) ki-led Kohls, Nike, Anthem, and is now bleeding out Elevance Health.
We don’t hate the race. We hate the low-trust culture being forced on us. It is literally criminal the things that have been done to this company.
How can anyone forget when the IRS started investigating Nike because so many ‘people from a certain culture’ were stealing from Nike’s charitable donation match?
Shame on you. Shame on your culture. Shame on the racist hiring biases you support.
@mj dozens of us!
@mh are you acknowledging you are one of the Racists? , well in that case please stay anonymous as well
@mg there are more of us then you think lmao. Not just in EMEA
@me anonymity suits you brings out your racism against India to its forefront, keep up the good work , stay anonymous friend
@me that's just sad ... there are good and bad people everywhere
I really don't care...i just hate Indians and their shithole country...if they try to shove Diwali down out throats one more time....fu-k, I had to tear down every poster I could find
Availability of un-chained, highly motivated and young talent pool is driving this. It will continue to happen irrespective of who is leading.
love it that GT EMEA thread is about India vs Western culture ( western - as in EU or US or combined)?
yeah GT is definitely bloated because JD was secretly an Indian and decided to use Nike Direct (read digital) as the only sales avenue that mattered because that is what Indians do, Nike dropped their wholesale partners because of Indians and focused on the tech because of Indians, dropped their shoe quality because of Indians, did not invest on marketing because guess what Indians, even the current CEO and CTO are Indians, oh wait they are not, wrong guess again - they are Indians because as this thread entails bad decisions are always taken by Indians , US's so called creative leaders - are super smart and would never make a mistake or take a fall, they just find someone to blame.. well I see it from the very top in the US, only makes sense the moment things go bad it's because of some other entity....
May be grow up , realize mistakes were made across the globe, across the leadership, not a big fan of what happened in GT, but Nike has had a bigger problem than GT leaders this previous few years ... or Yap about how it's everyone else's fault ....
@f9 Don't you dare suggest Western creative minds holding responsible for Nike's current state. No no, it was definitely India, who sneakily stole their jobs.
@f9 don’t discount spaghetti bowl architecture. There’d lots of domains that have (intentionally or not) developed themselves into a nonsensical web. Where only the original creator can make sense of it.
That might create job security for an individual somewhere else but Nike is constantly rebuilding stuff at the beginning of every contractors’ churn cycle (2 to 3 years).
That is by design. Keeps the contract money bleeding out.
@f4 oh you sweet summer child...i have never met an Indian worker of quality, they can't do any creative thinking. Requiring check sheets and run books created by real engineers.
Indian "universities" are nothing but diploma and certification mills that teach no outside the box thinking but give out fraudulent credentials.
Well instead of whining, look at the quality of people around you. Especially the goto people in every domain/platform is most of the time an Indian. Folks here are too entitled to understand that there are people around the globe who will go extra mile to get the work done. Instead of hating, be more productive and competitive. Besides the real job drain is due to outsourcing to ACN
D-mb and D-mber active on this thread.
GT’s bloated headcount can be correlated to the number of Indians in leadership. If we were serious about saving money our CEO would sit down and have some difficult but honest conversations.
We could run with half the number of people we currently have but only if we stop letting HR make cost-per-head the only metric that matters. Give me 3 domestic engineers (III, II, and even a junior straight out of college) and after 6 months they’ll get more done, in fewer hours, than the overweight 8-man teams that are all over the place here now.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve refused ‘free’ laborers from our contracting firms during negotiations. I need brains, not bodies. We simply don’t speak the same language. I have real work that must get done and on tight timelines.
The wrong hire costs the company more money than a vacancy, even in a critical role.
Cheaper...we can just buy them in bulk like dvds in the bargain bin...and in f8ve years we will hire real engineers to fix everything they broke. At this point that entire country and it's people are just a community, buy Indians like we buy wood.
Stealth layoffs are the most fun! /s
@aq I have doubts about the quality of this cheaper work
Maybe it’s because the company labor costs are like 2x the revenue and need to rightsize SG&A? Nah….too logical. Blame the nationality. That’s much easier and takes less brain power.