5-6 hours is enough if you go back home and finish up there
8 hours is perfection
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the expectation is 8 hours.
the "naughty list" is <5 hours. that's just a starting point. once they clean up the most egregious offenders, they'll move on to <6, etc.
this is exactly how it worked with RTO/attendance. reporting and enforcement first focused on under1 day averages. then under 2. then under 3. now people are getting discussions and possible warnings if they are bouncing around sometimes at/over 3 but sometimes under 3.
Managers are accountable for their team members. So just go by whatever yours tells you. Alot of times they run interference for us that we aren't aware of and have to deal with bs politics. We were told to get as close to 8 as possible. No mention of a 5 threshold but we could read between the lines.
Wait until 2026, one milllllllion hours in office required! FHY.
5 hours was the report from Q3. The report from Q4 will be 7 hours.
Your manager is doing you a favor telling you this. The stated expectation, versus the actual cutoff where people get put on the naughty list, are two different things. Your manager is telling you the minimum you need to do to avoid getting flagged. Maybe consider not putting this information on blast here,and just quietly making use of it
Also I guarantee the expectation is 5 NOW, but they fully intend to ratchet up the pressure over time.
I have seen an email from a manager who said 5-6 will keep you in the safe zone. My manager said 8. How can different LOBs have different rules? Is this not ummm, discrimination in some sense?
My manager told our group in email that it's 8 hrs in the office and that it's being tracked. No more going into the office for 4 hours and then going home and continue working. WF is obsessed on where your tush is located. All about making life as miserable as possible for people so they leave willingly and WF can save on severance.
They can't show their employees respect by just laying them off (instead of trying to make them miserable), because then it'd probably show that they're (in general) targeting older workers. They're probably hoping to avoid an ageism lawsuit this way.
This is humorous. Everyone on this board convinced with certainty it was 8 hours. Now we see Oh it is 5 hours. Everyone is guessing.
One thing is for sure, we'll know come February!
I would just get as close to 8 as you can and then keep doing what your doing until your manager tells you otherwise. at this point most rank and file managers haven't even seen the report. they will just get a list of who's below whatever the threshold has been set.
They have to start somewhere...... Doesn't mean they won't go to 7+
Managers 5 hours and IC 8 hours
I’ve heard 5 as well
They are never going to say expectation is not 8 hrs. But the reporting is not based on that, if you are there less than 5 hrs, that is when you will get a call or a warning. They aren’t going to publish that info for everyone because they don’t want people coming in just to meet that threshold.
5 or more
Everyone needs to go by what their manager says. Different organizations have different expectations. The expectations that matter to your performance reviews are the ones filtered down to you by your manager.
8 hours no exception. It will go to your performance review rating.
That defeats the whole updated verbiage out on Teamworks about a day in-office = 8 hours. So maybe your group has an exception.