Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

$100,000 per H1B Visa 💸💸💸💸

I can’t wait to see how much MORE Money AT&T will Lose for each H1B Visa replacing American workers. These Executives are highly skilled at Losing Money. 💸


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Lazy people com e in all ethnic groups

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Post ID: @gz+1k5s01cfz

stop being a racist in our country

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Post ID: @gy+1k5s01cfz

lazy people are in all races and religions. STop being a racist,

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Post ID: @gx+1k5s01cfz

I started out in Bell Labs and was compensated then.
Due to outsourcing I had to train my replacements, lost my job, did contracting,
had bouts of unemployment due to out sourcing and cheap wages.
I was disappointed that no one stood up to my situation. Seems like all the
people in charge were lawyers and not engineers so it is easy to say it's ok to help
others though it was at the expense of the hard working engineers.

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Post ID: @gw+1k5s01cfz

@eb

I'm with you.

It's a good step 1, has to be followed by step 2 so that the export of jobs (the hire of cheap, but not better qualified, etc) labor abroad is reduced. 25% proposed in the HIRE ACT is not enough, because most of these offshoring and near-shoring resources are 60% lower pay and even more.

We need to go back to what used to be (to folks here, forget any politics, please) and get the Elons of the world here, the real talents, the real smart ones, not cheap labor which is depressing the entire jobs market not just here, but the entire West.

It used to be like that 20-25 years ago (high IQ, creative, hard working people were coming in), but something happened in the past 15 years and other outsourcing companies and US corporations started to gain the system and over 70% of H1Bs and 25% of L1s etc became all about low-paid, below average talent and IQ workers from India (sorry). Other markets are leveraging the outsourcing more as they can't get in (the former su-ked up all the oxygen). Won't repeat that, as there is another post here that talked about that already.

In summary: Should we care who does the right thing or that the right thing happens? I'm all for being happy when the right thing happens, regardless of who does the right thing.

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Post ID: @ee+1k5s01cfz

Interesting reading some takes on this policy from various news sources and people on here. I have to ask and I want you to ask yourself, are you against this because Trump did it? Because it doesn’t go far enough? Don’t think it will do much? You surely can’t be against it because it won’t help American workers.

Listening to the CEOs cry about “best and brightest.” Now I’m not going to demean anyone over that statement; however, if they are the best and brightest AND critical to the future success of the business, then they won’t have any issue paying the higher fees and higher wage limit (currently it’s at $1k application and $60k/yr min salary). So think about that. Are they really the best and brightest or just the cheapest cost option? Oh and we don’t train or have the skills here, hmmm, then why are so many of the best and brightest flooding our universities? You know the answer and for the life of me, I can’t understand why any working class American would be against this.

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Post ID: @eb+1k5s01cfz

@cb

The near-shoring has been increasing exponentially (Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Costa Rica). You are right to say that US companies either open offices there (for cheaper labor, not a representative or affiliate office) or they hire a near-shoring company that opened an LLC in the US, but they have no employees here, they use remote HR tools and companies (like Remote and such), and other direct and non-direct tricks.

None of these resources are good or have expertise that we don't have in the US at all, they are cheaper, copy and use the same tools (but poorly), not the same culture and not the same quality. But it all increased during the tech bo-m and throughout the pandemic when tech companies were hiring like crazy, so nobody was noticing the shift. Now that they stopped hiring and laying off here, but keep hiring and increasing the hiring there, it's damaging. Those are taxes that Americans do not pay here, purchasing power that is slowly going away and American companies are exporting job opportunities to countries that those countries CANNOT produce themselves. They all get certifications so that they can work for a company that outsources work from the US and earn wages that would give them a standard of living that otherwise they won't have.

It's nice to be a good person when you have what to give, but stopped being the case for the American (and Western) worker. Some companies had no choice, because big corporations were hiring like crazy (not because they wanted to AT ALL, hopefully due to market dynamics this will change for those companies that did want to hire Americans, but 10-15 corporations were su-king up the air).

They are also eroding the market with the consumers that gives them the revenue - I find that so weird.

If you are talking to congress, just wanted to give my 2 cents, thank you for what you are doing.

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Post ID: @e5+1k5s01cfz

It would be one thing if the tech was originally developed here but most of our tech comes from India. Why would anyone want to hire an American for technical roles when they are at best maintaining tech that someone else created?

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Post ID: @d7+1k5s01cfz

@b9 That is absolutely not true, and the investigation will prove that. I have already made the people on the hill aware of how telecoms are circumventing accountability by being once removed by their hand picked contracting agencies. The telecoms and tech companies wont survive this investigation. After that i'm going to lobby for a fee on outsourced jobs per head. 100,000 will seem like chump change on the per head fee. All of this should have been done long ago because, the person left filling the gap in lost tax revenue was the Americans that telecoms and tech companies sold up the river. You go ahead and keep licking those boots. This isn't going to end well.

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Post ID: @cb+1k5s01cfz

Politicians are just pandering to us. They are telling us what we want to hear. But in reality, AT&T is not hiring H-1B visa holders; instead, they are outsourcing work overseas. We have been duped again.

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Post ID: @b9+1k5s01cfz

“ Too many lazy Americans.”

Only bogus, faux “Americans”. Every real American has that innate work ethic & will (easily) quadruple the output of any H-1B interloper(s).

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Post ID: @b6+1k5s01cfz

This is a too late, too little policy. There aren’t any new H1B applicants. Majority of H1B visas at AT&T are renewals. So no cost impact to T.

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Post ID: @ap+1k5s01cfz

The IRS allowed me to write off my H1B as a business expense so I don’t see any issues. Not to mention I will still get to pay 250 when I need to reapply. This is all a lot to do about nothing . I’ve already communicated to my direct reports that it will not be a problem.

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Post ID: @a9+1k5s01cfz

Interest rates are dropping - we will just borrow more. Anything to avoid hiring Americans with no victim cards.

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