Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Is JPM raiding WFC in plain sight?

I do agree that it sounds out there, but something doesn’t feel right. I’ve lived through another situation where one firm was quietly making plans to takeover my firm for years. We couldn’t see what was happening at the time, but it all made sense once the news broke. The executives had no problem making bold highly questionable moves and then lying about the strategy behind them.

Red flags here: an influx of JPM executives in our highest executive roles, selling off assets, cutting costs by any measure, an utter disregard for employee morale, no talk about long -term plans.

Anyone remember TWA with Carl Icahn? Icahn became known for his short-term gain thinking. He made false promises about wanting to help the airline to grow. But it eventually became clear that Icahn was not interested in growing the airline, and was instead using TWA as a financial vehicle to acquire wealth for himself.

I may not be accurately pinpointing the end goal. But I am saying that one and one is not adding up to two. Mark my words.

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Post ID: @OP+1cwPoFhB

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It is a hostile take-over from within, courtesy of Charlie. It's likely been in the works since he got here, but it is finally taking shape. Sell off profitable businesses, install his peeps, get rid of "legacy" WF people and processes, and sell off what's left to the highest bidder.

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Post ID: @jev+1cwPoFhB

My take is that it is the typical good ol' boy/girl network bringing in their trusted advisors.

It is quite common for leaders to recruit (poach) former colleagues and direct reports when they go to a new company. It's a trust and comfort thing. A leader goes into an new place, they're not necessarily going to know who to trust, who can execute and who has the mindset of transformation. In many cases, they're also taking a step up in pay and level when being recruited.

It would take a huge level of "conspiracy" for say all these JPM and BofA people coming over to do something nefarious like what is being suggested. I don't buy it.

The red flags? Yeah, that's a combo of new people coming in and not knowing the environment, tons of reorgs, "adding value" and overall somewhat disruptive transformation. You want to change culture and drastically reduce costs etc. You just issue edicts/goals and ram things through and make them happen. If expense ratio, cap limits, competitive position need to drastically change, you don't do that by running BAU like the company has for years. Heck, in Kovacevich days I thought the paradigm was "grow revenue faster than expenses and we'll be good", "run it like you own it". That's not a problem until, it's a problem. And we've seen plenty of problems.

Can't say I agree with it all though.

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Post ID: @fcg+1cwPoFhB

So what if JPM or anyone raid Wells.

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Post ID: @wof+1cwPoFhB

Not disagreeing with opposing comments, but there will always naturally be skeptics and deniers right up until “the impossible” happens. There is a way around everything when greed, money and power is involved.

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Post ID: @nzk+1cwPoFhB

Please read about deposit market share caps.

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Post ID: @jqf+1cwPoFhB

Just because execs don't share long term plans with you, doesn't mean they don't exist. It's SOP for execs to use broad generalities when talking about these things, unless you're on there board or the OC where they need to get to the nitty gritty.

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Post ID: @fbb+1cwPoFhB

A lot of people are speculating that JPM will somehow buy or absorb Wells Fargo, but the words I would think we would hear from the Fed and OCC is "over my dead body!"

Wells Fargo is far too large to be absorbed by another bank especially in these times where the Fed would scrutinize every little thing.

Is Charlie getting a bunch of high paying jobs for his friends and Dimon's son in law before jumping ship, because he's in over his head? Possibly. But Wells Fargo as a whole will not be absorbed by another Bank, Wells would have to sell off so many departments and assets that it wouldn't even resemble the same bank before the Fed would allow a takeover or purchase to happen.

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Post ID: @qzp+1cwPoFhB

Agree 100%.

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Post ID: @uaa+1cwPoFhB

There definitely is a lack of long term plans which is a red flag. My guess is Chuckles plans on cashing out before it all comes crashing down. I’ve said all along he is outta here next year before it all falls apart. Then he’ll move on to the next company he can con into hiring them and do the same thing. I have seen it before.

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