Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

You will never win. Even the EA agents that sued who quietly disappeared were probably paid off to just go away. The regular employees even if banded together will never win. Indeed and Glassdoor are sister companies, owned by Recruit Holdings. The major share holders of those companies are banks. Blackstone just bought Allstate life. There is a pattern here. We will never win.

Wow- looks like this thread is a contest of who can write the longest post while saying absolutely nothing. You all must be a blast at parties.

I'm sure the vast majority of those clamoring for a union never worked at a company that had one. I have. Money out of your check for dues, union reps only available for matters that they can exploit and better themselves, pressure to toe a certain line even if you don't feel it is the right thing to do, lies and deceit and false promises, a lot of two faced activity from unions heads....I would rather take my chances with Allstate leadership....better the devil you know....

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Thou dost protest too much REPUTATION DEFENDER. O m g are you HR or worse- just a stupid drone? (@ least former you have an excuse)

its sad a a fortune 500 company (are they anymore? if SO THANK YOUR FRONT LINE WORKERS) need id--ts like this.

If we are all F'ed and ... WOW, has that been case since Tetris 2020 (sorry if you were hired post Celebrate Good Times Come On! oops! our bad!) then WHY DOES IT MATTER.

I understand OPs point and agree it maybe symbolic at this point but in the USA everything at this point history is more about "symbolism" and "how we feel" then logic CLEARLY.

Guess what: Allstate workers feel like they are being treat like $H!T (BUY A CLUE READING THIS BOARD- journalists have) and no "company survey" nonsense which is biased to k!$$ @$$ of managers will illustrate that, but this board sure as he-l does.

Note: notice to OPEIU labor organizer - come propose to us. ITS ALLOWED BY U.S. LAW ALLSTATE LEST YOUR FORGET.

The solution certainly isn’t unionization although I understand the push and thought behind it. To current employees, I’d just tell them to pay attention. Are you constantly being lied to in town halls? Is the company transparent with you about their vision? Do senior leaders inspire any sort of confidence whatsoever? Are those senior leaders people that have demonstrated that they have any technical expertise whatsoever? Do you look at senior leaders and wonder how in the world they got to their position? Does the company shares its successes with all its employees? Answer the questions for yourself and do it honestly. A union seems to be a very tough uphill battle. You’re better off taking a hard look at the company structure, philosophy, BOD, and financial trends and then do what’s best for YOU.

Is this some kind of Marxist Morality Play? The poor, downtrodden workers? Plenty of other companies are hiring, but you might have to jump out of your soft, safe bubble and go get one of them. Nah, let's unionize as a big f--k you to our current place of employment.

Does Allstate management su-k? Yes. Offshoring jobs as quickly as they can in pursuit of an ever dwindling profit margin brought on by their own short sighted decisions and a-s kissing culture? Indisputably. Completely out of touch with the on the ground reality of overhead to delivery that has been built by various ego driven petty lords? For sure. Round after round of layoffs in which good, productive people are sent over the hill while a-s kissing, myopic yes people move up the food chain? Happens a couple times a year.

Is the solution to all this to unionize? I doubt it. Even if the entire sordid mess is laid open for all to see, do you really think anything at all will happen other than possibly a few golden parachutes get deployed? I'd seriously question if that even would happen.

Living well is the best revenge. Get another job and watch this outfit implode from as far away as you can get. Because it's coming. This old fashioned business model is not sustainable and markets change faster all the time. Throw in out of touch, white washed management and......

I think unionizing in the insurance industry is long over due.

@qxn+1u8zPNgq you sit in on Board of Directors meetings? Well heck share more?! Why would you waste your time here you're clearly a mover and shaker @qxn+1u8zPNgq !

Gimme break. If point is union would increase move to cut staff-sure, and good luck with collective bargaining if want to do that wi--y nilly at will- but if we're all getting AI'ed or offshored whats it matter genius?

Pune, since you are so in touch with the pulse of the company, cant even FIX our computers to operate without errors on daily basis, much less do ANYTHING customer facing. Do you really think customers will want to deal with CSRs in India?

Since you are a secretary on the BOD yes, Id be very concerned AI dictation will replace you-polish up that shorthand resume, but no concerns for my job.

There was a point buried in there it seemed, but like this board its obscured with more B$ or company rep defense.

Even if it fails, which is likely, if it can expose on a national level the greed and mistreatment workers have been subjected to, it would be worth it. We would be the first insurance company to spotlight and expose these terds on the national news. It would take alot of guts to even try. The insurance buying public needs to know who Allstate really is. How they exploit workers here and abroad. It’s been a sh-t show money grab for decades.

Yeah that will fly. The hot topic in the BoD meeting is "how can we leverage AI to eliminate our most costly liability...employees?".
I am sure a union would only accelerate those discussions.

AI will self'replicate roles, work 24/7 with no benefits, always tow the company directive, and never complain. Those are juicy thoughts to those running the show.
And until that is ready I promise you that a chicken chaser in Pune will gladly take your role for 1/2 your pay.
Time is coming soon for many who punch keyboards all day to learn a physical labor trade.

I think that’s been attempted in the past. The time has certainly come to question why leadership is so critically inept though particularly in the claims area. Using a very basic dated program to evaluate claims is ridiculous as we all know. There are many better options out there and everybody knows it. Are there employees out there that believe in the product? If so, why? I’ve seen nothing that would lead me to believe the company is heading in the right direction.

I don't think there are enough onshore employees left to make this worthwhile. And the onshore employees that are left are so defeated and demoralized anymore to even bother fighting for themselves.

In short this ship has sailed and is about 4-5 years too late.