Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

It’s morning in Bangalore. Don’t you guys have some tickets you should be prematurely closing?

@152 Dude…you’re handed processes and tweak them occasionally. I guess that involves (some) thinking, but it doesn’t make you anywhere near as indispensable as you think you are, because if it did, people from the third-world wouldn’t be replacing you to begin with.

@151 Yes, yes, it’s a massive conspiracy involving secret agents in India. It’s all secretly funded by the billionaire DEI mafia in Geneva, Switzerland. You nailed it! Call into your favorite podcast and tell them you cracked the case!

Sarcasm aside, you don’t do much engineering, and Americans don’t seem very interested in taking unstable jobs with mediocre pay in polluted shitholes.

If @10n got asked the interview question about how many windows there are at EMHC, he would clearly freeze up and require a few weeks to get the answer wrong.

Those of us used to actually making business critical decisions learn to think critically with incomplete information. You don’t always have the liberty of emailing your counterpart in the HC10 country so you can take credit for their work later.

@10n rears his head again after a couple days at 10:30 am Bangalore time

I’m sorry you don’t get extrapolation buddy. Do you need 4-6 weeks to think about it and still get it wrong?

@130 Might be a difference between L-1A (managerial) and L-1B (technical). I was recently on an L-1B, not from BTC or KLTC, and I only had a brief conversation (10-15 minutes) with a Customs officer to get my visa. Or it could vary depending on home country.

As someone who came as an experienced manager in the past (15y with the company) on a L1 (not from BTC or KLTC) it seems highly unlikely these people would be an L1 Visa. To get the L1 you have to do an interview with a US consular officer who is very keen on checking your managerial responsibilities, including substantial budget ownership.

These people would be on a H1B visa which is currently being reviewed by the government

@vt “It’s not that hard to count the L1s and scale up from there…”

1) Did you read this before you posted it?
2) Do you apply the same logic when solving technical problems?

So basically your strategy here is to eyeball something, make sweeping assumptions about its properties, then extrapolate it to every situation that is even remotely similar. Have you ever actually designed or tested any type of physical system?

LMFAO…you’re the benchmark for engineering at Exxon? Hahahahaha! What a joke!

@vt You people don’t do any engineering tho…

@qt

It’s called problem solving. It’s something good engineers are paid to do. You need to be able to digest information and make predictions based on it. It’s not that hard to count the L1s at a couple sites and scale up from there.

It’s curious how all your posts seem to come up around 6-8 am BTC time, by the way. Could be a coincidence. The way you’re always sh-----g on Americans doesn’t make it look like one though.

Only top 20% of BTC employees will ever get an expat assignment, and many will be in non-US locations which allow development of these hi potential (and lower cost) individuals. The long term big impact will be fewer expat assignments for HC10 employees. Yes, some will get L1 visas in US, but this will be only a couple hundred per year. The big change is how many get "prime" expat assignments over the next 10 years, and displace hc10 expats out of very highly paid expat assignments

@qt they are just not good enough! Sour grapes

@e2 So in other words, you’re fabricating numbers out of whole cloth. Got it.

I visit a major university annually to give lectures/short courses, often to some of the best students. Not a single one who I’ve spoken to wants or intends to enter O&G, and it’s not because of “liberal brainwashing” or other culture-war BS. They’re just being rational; they see no future in a stagnant industry that’s constantly laying people off.

You are also ranked against these BTC employees. As a supervisor we were told these are the future leaders of the BTC and the corporation expects their ranking to reflect this. End result is Americans fill the bottom of the tank group now in places that are full of BTC engineers.

@e2 disgust me! And they were bragging about their high CL and potential. We need to keep jobs for tax paying Americans!

@dv I would ballpark the total number of L1 expats in the US at 150-200 based on extrapolation. At current starting salaries around $110-120 thousand that means $16.5 - 24 million in salaries for people who would live and build families in our communities, pay taxes, and fill our pipeline to keep the company healthy. Assuming an average job tenure of 2 years, that’s $41 - 60 million of missing permanent worker salaries over a five year period. This doesn’t take into account the first cohort of missing workers getting pay increases, or the jobs eliminated entirely as a result of the outsourcing.

It is the height of foolishness to think this doesn’t matter. We should fight for good paying jobs to stay in America.

@dv What is this strange fascination with other people’s fictitious kids? Give it a rest

@dr It’s nowhere close to a number high enough to have you anywhere near as riled-up about it as you seem to be. Give the podcasts a break.

While your at it, tell your unemployed adult children who still live at home with you to take these dirty entry-level O&G jobs that nobody wants, so companies won’t need to bring people to do them. Same goes for picking fruit, processing meat, cutting grass, and scrubbing pots.

@cf You’re delusional if you think it’s just 20. I can think of at least 6-7 roles currently occupied by tech center ex pats at the smallest sites on the USGC right now. I can only imagine what it is if you included all the biggest refineries, chem plants, upstream, and EMHC.

@d5 yes

@d5 Tell the DEI troll who keeps derailing every thread with his MAGA BS.

I personally think it’s on-topic to discuss where the laws and policies come from that relate to work visas. There’s a lot of misinformation bouncing around on this board about it. As long as it doesn’t become overtly political I don’t see an issue.

Keep it on topic. Are we using L1B visas for these ex pats?

@bq All Congress does is pass spending bills marked-up with provisions for their donors. The most recent “big beautiful” one gave crypto permission to raid your 401k, among countless other horrors.

Indians (all 20 of them) coming to the U.S. on L1s is the least of your problems.

@a4 It’s legal and they’re working for republican donors. That’s why nothing is being done about it.

Also, American graduates aren’t exactly lining up to do these cruddy, poorly-paid entry level jobs. They all think they’re going to get $300k/year starting salary to play on their phone at one of the MAANGs. LoL good luck with that kids.

Unless congress changes the law, there isn’t much you can do regarding L1. Try B1

the bigger issue is thise who come on business trip in the name of ‘meetings’ but do work here during that time. that is true exploitation and law breaking. as

@a3 From what I’ve heard from recent ex pats these visas are starting to be more closely scrutinized. It’s taking months more to get them approved. Maybe it’s different now…

@a4 do the right thing and report it to the authorities if you think it is illegal.

They don’t belong to either . Should be reported to state department or ICE to
Revoke these guys visa and deport them

Yeah, companies been doin dis for decades.

So much for that supposedly bad-a$$ executive order that was going to protect everyone’s jobs. Turns out it was just another publicity stunt to throw red meat at the MAGA base and maybe bring in a few fence-sitters.