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Genius or Cliff Dive (Larry Ellison’s $300 billion dollar AI Power Play)

Barron's:
Genius or Cliff Dive (Larry Ellison’s $300 billion dollar AI Power Play)

Oracle is riding the AI wave like a rocket, with the stock up 373% in 3 years, a reported $300B dollar OpenAI contract, and a backlog exploding to 455B dollars.

Larry Ellison, 81 and still in attack mode, is turning Oracle into the supplier of choice for AI builders, not a rival. The playbook is simple: data plus compute equals destiny. The company is loading up on capacity and customers, while Ellison pursues strategic side quests that protect the core, from the TikTok USA bid to deep ties with Skydance and Paramount.

The bill is massive. Oracle is taking on more than 90B dollars in long-term debt, sold 18B dollars in bonds in September, and could see gross margins fall from about 72 percent to about 52 percent by 2029 even as revenue soars.

If OpenAI and a few whales deliver, Ellison’s biggest bet becomes his legacy, with scale lifting profits over time. If contracts wobble or capex drags, customer concentration plus leverage becomes the plot twist. Translation: Oracle is trading margin now for AI dominance later, and Wall Street is watching.

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https://www.barrons.com/articles/larry-ellison-oracle-56e03912


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Post ID: @OP+1k77q6b2x

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@qg I don't get O's attitude towards legacy products, especially after buying Cerner. Legacy still generates billions in profits for O.

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Post ID: @qw+1k77q6b2x

@qa That's what I was thinking. The support they are getting has been decreased if not eliminated, they should pressure O to discount their support payments accordingly. Or use another vendor.

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Post ID: @qg+1k77q6b2x

@q7 | Oracle is going using the "no support" model.

Then they shouldn't be surprised when customers do not renew their support contracts and prepare to migrate to another vendor.

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Post ID: @qa+1k77q6b2x

Hi everyone,
Being an ex support person (i know i keep saying this :)), i don't know how you can gut the support teams that were already overloaded where customers who are pi---d when
i was there, they are really going to be mad. But as someone said earlier here, Oracle is going using the "no support" model.

I bet this will happen:

AI is real and it's driving markets, it's doing this w/dot com style hype
All gains in S&P500 are AI linked - probably fake gains after the bubble bursts
AI still has VERY weak profitability, negative ROIC, financial eng. via buybacks
The bubble is REAL and will end in tears
LE's timing is poor, he's late and political meanedering aint gonna help him here

Good luck to all of you.

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Post ID: @q7+1k77q6b2x

Those who trust too much in one thing are burned by it

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Post ID: @ph+1k77q6b2x

@a5 Hope you are right

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Post ID: @f5+1k77q6b2x

This is gonna end badly for everyone.

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Post ID: @cg+1k77q6b2x

👮‍♂Thank you for sharing!

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Post ID: @cf+1k77q6b2x

All order has a cost, and that cost is a more general increase in disorder. Increasing complexity means significant costs for chaos, which itself increases. Attempts to bring order to the world have little chance of success. The only certainties are fatigue, doubt, and anxiety.

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Post ID: @c9+1k77q6b2x

@OP Looks like the market collapse has started. ORCL will be back below $160 before it's over. This much debt never ends well.

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Post ID: @bc+1k77q6b2x

It will be the price to pay for sudden cutting thousands employees from their jobs. Trusting more in the illusory sense of getting rich quickly is just risky and greedy.

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Post ID: @b8+1k77q6b2x

@a5 He has already validated his ideas with ChatGPT

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Post ID: @ae+1k77q6b2x

Can you say one large Ponzi Scheme? This is .dot com, mortgage backed securities, on steroids:

https://img.36krcdn.com/hsossms/20251009/v2_562fa454466f475c8d09972061ac72de@1743780481_oswg1031651oswg1080oswg1786_img_000?x-oss-process=image/format,jpg/interlace,1

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Post ID: @a7+1k77q6b2x

$0.02 on this:

  • AI is real and it's driving markets, it's doing this w/dot com style hype
  • All gains in S&P500 are AI linked - probably fake gains after the bubble bursts
  • AI still has VERY weak profitability, negative ROIC, financial eng. via buybacks
  • The bubble is REAL and will end in tears
  • LE's timing is poor, he's late and political meanedering aint gonna help him here
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Post ID: @a5+1k77q6b2x

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